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 Sasori wrote:
 Crazyterran wrote:
Marines were mid to low tier most of 7th until Battle Company formations and the same with 6th, with their only strong play being Grav cents with Loth/Tigurius. The battle company still didn’t make marines the top of the pile even with free razorbacks for everyone - that one went for our pointy eared and hatted army.

In Fifth they were overshadowed by Crons, GK, and Guard, With only BA razorspam lists being close.

Marines being #1 is relatively new in GW land.


Space Wolves were a top army in 5th, but yeah, Codex Vanilla marines have rarely been that strong through 40k lifetime.

To the point that people were using their CSM as Counts As Space Wolves.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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So, Suppressors (the jumppack autocannon primaris guys) are still stuck at squads of 3, right?
   
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 cuda1179 wrote:
So, Suppressors (the jumppack autocannon primaris guys) are still stuck at squads of 3, right?

Yes - as the only way to get them is the Vanguard Start Collecting! box. It'll change when (if!) the multi-part box comes out (and there was fluff in the last codex about a las(?) variant).
   
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 cuda1179 wrote:
So, Suppressors (the jumppack autocannon primaris guys) are still stuck at squads of 3, right?


Yep. Their points entry is rather odd as well.
Most units are 'X pts/model.' Suppressors are '100 pts' flat, which generally is how single entity units are written (characters and vehicles). Even other squads with a fixed unit size (Outriders and Eliminators) are X pts/model.
Its a weird formatting quirk, and it makes me wonder if they had planned a full kit at some point, but it got bumped late in the process, and they changed the points entry in a hurry and didn't normalize it.

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 cuda1179 wrote:
So, Suppressors (the jumppack autocannon primaris guys) are still stuck at squads of 3, right?

So are Eliminators and the new Outriders. I hate it.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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beast_gts wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
So, Suppressors (the jumppack autocannon primaris guys) are still stuck at squads of 3, right?

Yes - as the only way to get them is the Vanguard Start Collecting! box. It'll change when (if!) the multi-part box comes out (and there was fluff in the last codex about a las(?) variant).


Ugg... I liked the idea of suppressors a lot. I even converted 6 of them with hopes they would compliment my Inceptor squad. Being stuck at 3 guys means they don't have enough shots to either cripple a tank or a blob squad.
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So are Eliminators and the new Outriders. I hate it.
Eliminators stuck at 3 used to make sense, as with the Sergeant's rules giving up his shooting to buff 5 Eliminators would've been mightily powerful.

Now that the Sergeant has lost all his rules, it really doesn't make sense that they can't be in squads of 3-6.

   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So are Eliminators and the new Outriders. I hate it.
Eliminators stuck at 3 used to make sense, as with the Sergeant's rules giving up his shooting to buff 5 Eliminators would've been mightily powerful.

Now that the Sergeant has lost all his rules, it really doesn't make sense that they can't be in squads of 3-6.


honestly I kinda liked that old rule about eliminators TBH, it added an intreasting "quality vs quantity" question

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GW may have lost the plot, the Hammerstrike Turret is AUD $98. For context, that is the same price as an Intercessor Squad here. I was expecting to pay double that at least!
   
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diepotato47 wrote:
GW may have lost the plot, the Hammerstrike Turret is AUD $98. For context, that is the same price as an Intercessor Squad here. I was expecting to pay double that at least!


Maybe they KNOW it's of dubious use?

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 cuda1179 wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
So, Suppressors (the jumppack autocannon primaris guys) are still stuck at squads of 3, right?

Yes - as the only way to get them is the Vanguard Start Collecting! box. It'll change when (if!) the multi-part box comes out (and there was fluff in the last codex about a las(?) variant).


Ugg... I liked the idea of suppressors a lot. I even converted 6 of them with hopes they would compliment my Inceptor squad. Being stuck at 3 guys means they don't have enough shots to either cripple a tank or a blob squad.
They only have to hit in order to prevent overwatch now. So they can still cripple a unit, sort of. They are more for keeping Tau at bay.

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Monolith isn't for sale in Oz.

Still no sign of the Chaplain Biker or Hexmark either.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Monolith isn't for sale in Oz.

Still no sign of the Chaplain Biker or Hexmark either.


I’m beginning to legitimately believe that the ship carrying them must have shed part of its load in a storm or something. So somewhere out there is a whole stack of free monoliths floating around on the pacific currents…

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Monolith isn't for sale in Oz.

Still no sign of the Chaplain Biker or Hexmark either.


I’m beginning to legitimately believe that the ship carrying them must have shed part of its load in a storm or something. So somewhere out there is a whole stack of free monoliths floating around on the pacific currents…


*quickly pays heaps of money for scuba gear to get free monoliths*
*gets eaten by sharks*
*dies smiling while hugging free monoliths*
   
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 Mr_Rose wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Monolith isn't for sale in Oz.

Still no sign of the Chaplain Biker or Hexmark either.


I’m beginning to legitimately believe that the ship carrying them must have shed part of its load in a storm or something. So somewhere out there is a whole stack of free monoliths floating around on the pacific currents…

Or they've all floated to the bottom, and now Cthulhu is constructing his own Necron army in R'lyeh. Seems apt.....
   
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They probably ended up in the same place as all the Australia bound Doctor Stranges for the Marvel game. I’ve heard they’re missing some of their recent releases as well.

 
   
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Is it just me, or is the Monolith in the 360 degree view on the GW site a bit droopy, hope that's just poor assembly rather than a common fault!
   
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Tavis75 wrote:
Is it just me, or is the Monolith in the 360 degree view on the GW site a bit droopy, hope that's just poor assembly rather than a common fault!


It does look a bit on the wonk, then again the angle of the shot is not helping either. At least it is not on a flying base like The Tesseract Vault that always looks a bit droopy as well. With the low centre of gravity on the monolith it should not be too big an issue.

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GW display models are sometimes not fully assembled with glue and often have parts held on by bluetack. You can often see it with weapon arms around the shoulders on some models (and one set of eldar wraiths got released without the guns on the card board cover of their box one time).

I can't see a reason for it to be droopy, unlike the Obilisk, it doesn't look like there's any big segments held at distance on tiny plastic joins. It should be pretty solid. From what I can see the droop is the whole model being at a tiny bit of an angle to the base; which looking at the thickness of the custom base underneath it should just be assembly rather than an actual model flaw.

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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Or they've all floated to the bottom, and now Cthulhu is constructing his own Necron army in R'lyeh. Seems apt.....

It's Necrons, though. It's gonna take at LEAST 50,000 years for them to awaken again. No need to panic.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Monolith isn't for sale in Oz.

Still no sign of the Chaplain Biker or Hexmark either.


I’m beginning to legitimately believe that the ship carrying them must have shed part of its load in a storm or something. So somewhere out there is a whole stack of free monoliths floating around on the pacific currents…



assuming the shipment was lost around africa those mololiths should show up around new gueini, antartica or.. africa..


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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Monolith isn't for sale in Oz.

Still no sign of the Chaplain Biker or Hexmark either.


I’m beginning to legitimately believe that the ship carrying them must have shed part of its load in a storm or something. So somewhere out there is a whole stack of free monoliths floating around on the pacific currents…

Or they've all floated to the bottom, and now Cthulhu is constructing his own Necron army in R'lyeh. Seems apt.....

I guess that depends on whether the container burst or not. The boxes are shipped shrink-wrapped so they should float on their own and only degrade slowly. Of course if the steel container stayed closed and the interior filled with water then they’re on the bottom by now.

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 Super Ready wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Or they've all floated to the bottom, and now Cthulhu is constructing his own Necron army in R'lyeh. Seems apt.....

It's Necrons, though. It's gonna take at LEAST 50,000 years for them to awaken again. No need to panic.


Cthulhu is a lazy bugger anyway. He probably has a backlog dating back to the dawn of time.
Now Nyarlothotep, he's the one you need to be worried about

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GW spacing the Marine releases out only increases the perception that they only release Marine stuff. I wish they would just get these kits out.

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Ok then. I was hoping they'd finish out the necron release this month. But I guess the crypteks and flayed ones will wait until... later.

But it better not wait until the kill team release next year!
The dumb preview video is making me wonder...

The pile of SM kits can be parceled out with the various supplements.

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Voss wrote:
Ok then. I was hoping they'd finish out the necron release this month. But I guess the crypteks and flayed ones will wait until... later.

But it better not wait until the kill team release next year!
The dumb preview video is making me wonder...

The pile of SM kits can be parceled out with the various supplements.
The Marine release being spread over 3+ months is absurd.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Monolith isn't for sale in Oz.

Still no sign of the Chaplain Biker or Hexmark either.


I’m beginning to legitimately believe that the ship carrying them must have shed part of its load in a storm or something. So somewhere out there is a whole stack of free monoliths floating around on the pacific currents…


So they're with the first shipment of Eldar Falcons from the 90's?

I feel the "it fell off the boat" joke works better when that isn't a thing that's legitimately happened to GW before...

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Voss wrote:
Ok then. I was hoping they'd finish out the necron release this month. But I guess the crypteks and flayed ones will wait until... later.

But it better not wait until the kill team release next year!
The dumb preview video is making me wonder...

The pile of SM kits can be parceled out with the various supplements.


And people were telling me there's no way it's not multi-wave release and that it will be one Sisters had 3 waves with 2 months between wave 2 and 3 and they had similar # of kits. And that was with army that was in bigger need of all kits fast(being new army with no existing kits to bolster forces).

I can easily see some being left to next year for necrons.

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Voss wrote:
Ok then. I was hoping they'd finish out the necron release this month. But I guess the crypteks and flayed ones will wait until... later.

But it better not wait until the kill team release next year!
The dumb preview video is making me wonder...

The pile of SM kits can be parceled out with the various supplements.
The Marine release being spread over 3+ months is absurd.


You must be new to 40k...

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
 
   
 
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