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The Blightlords kits is better but it can't compare with the beauty of the Blightkings AoS kit (only 8 heads? meh!). I'll wait for the Plague Marines one, I believe thats the one that is gonna be full of beauties!

Initial reactions...

Blightlords - Ew. Fixed torso to body, fixed legs, half the arms have moulded on shoulders and the other half don't. No, no thank you. I guess I'm going with my Plan B - Cataphractii Terminators, DG Conversion kits and FW upgrade kits for axes and swords (or mauls and hammers to replace with swords).

Typhus - His pose is odd. But it seems the smoke and flies are optional and with a bit of carving you could get away with a smoke free Typhus. I might have to do that and field my metal Typhus as a LoC.

Is it only one combi-weapon per variant in the box? That would be truly disappointing.

I don't think it's one of each. I think it's one Combi-weapon. Period.

"The Champion of the unit can take combi-weapon upgrades; there’s a plasma, flamer and melta variant available."

So unless all the combi-weapons in the box can take any of the three other bits (melta, flamer, plasma) then it's one combi-weapon.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't think it's one of each. I think it's one Combi-weapon. Period.

"The Champion of the unit can take combi-weapon upgrades; there’s a plasma, flamer and melta variant available."

So unless all the combi-weapons in the box can take any of the three other bits (melta, flamer, plasma) then it's one combi-weapon.

What kind of idiot sense does that make? Not that you're an idiot H.B.M.C, but GW. Every model can take a combi-variant. Why put 1 in the box? If this is true, this really puts me out.

Devastators have only 2 of each weapon in the box, and the Kharadron Thunderers only 1. Tacticals didn't even have all the heavy weapons they can carry. Isn't something new. Still sucks, but...

 puma713 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't think it's one of each. I think it's one Combi-weapon. Period.

"The Champion of the unit can take combi-weapon upgrades; there’s a plasma, flamer and melta variant available."

So unless all the combi-weapons in the box can take any of the three other bits (melta, flamer, plasma) then it's one combi-weapon.

What kind of idiot sense does that make? Not that you're an idiot H.B.M.C, but GW. Every model can take a combi-variant. Why put 1 in the box? If this is true, this really puts me out.

Mate, I have no idea what they're thinking.

What bothers me is that this kit is effectively a more narrowly specialised Terminator unit in terms of the loadout they can take - I wouldn't expect GW to make a Chaos Terminator box with 5x fists, 5x lightning claws, 5x axes, 5x mauls, 5x swords, 5x chainfist, 5x lightning claw for the other hand, etc etc. But when this unit essentially boils down to

3x Heavy weapon options
Swords or Axes
Flail (x1)
Combi-weapon or combi-bolters

I would have liked to see at least a couple of combi-weapon attachments in the box. Even 2x or 3x with the same amount of swords/axes would have totally alleviated my irritation. Especially given as nothing in the box can really be posed differently and there are minimal options for customisation, I'm certainly not encouraged to buy duplicates.

Very disappointing, made worse by the fact that the models themselves look stunning. I"m really torn now.

 Galas wrote:
Devastators have only 2 of each weapon in the box, and the Kharadron Thunderers only 1. Tacticals didn't even have all the heavy weapons they can carry. Isn't something new. Still sucks, but...

You do know that they updated the Grundstok Thunderers warscroll in the General's Handbook 2017 where for every five models they can only take one of each weapon other than the Aethershot Rifle?...

 Ghaz wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Devastators have only 2 of each weapon in the box, and the Kharadron Thunderers only 1. Tacticals didn't even have all the heavy weapons they can carry. Isn't something new. Still sucks, but...

You do know that they updated the Grundstok Thunderers warscroll in the General's Handbook 2017 where for every five models they can only take one of each weapon other than the Aethershot Rifle?...

Yes I know. Personally I think is a very bad change, removing personalization to fix a problem that would be fixed changing the Mortar rules, but alas, this is offtopic.

Just pointing out another way that GW could 'fix' the problem...

Wait, did they change Typhus's base size?

All these mono-pose models are such a drag, really not impressed at all with the deathguard. Even the multi-part primaris are restricted in poses.

Shapeways. Fixes your combi problem. Can get 10 combi plasma or melta for 13 bucks

Like Typhus, but not the pose or the Nurgling. Typhus always seemed a grim sort to me and it would be better of have the nurgling as separate on the base like with the blightspawn. That said, the scythe looks cool to me as does the hive, and the armor is appropriately nurglish.

i also like the Blightlords, though they suffer imo from typical GW overdesign; too many details that make them look busy. I like how they look distinct but that also makes it more obvious when running more than five, as opposed to if they looked more similar top each other. That said there are very few pieces I dislike individually, its just that they are a bit less than the sum of their parts. Still they literally ooze character, with a bit of converting and a few more washes to darken the paint job down they could look really really sweet.

 mrhappyface wrote:

 GuitaRasmus wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

 GuitaRasmus wrote:
Now what's this?

There's only one combiplasma part on the Blight Lord sprue, and the text says this:

"The Champion of the unit can take combi-weapon upgrades; there’s a plasma, flamer and melta variant available."

Come on, GW...

Wait, DG Terminators get access to even one combi-plasma!? Lucky!

... Except that the whole squad has the option in the codex.

You're right, that is bad. It would only be worse if your entire Termie squad had the combi-plasma option but GW decided to put no combi-plasmas at all in the box. I have no idea what that would be like.

Wait, so you'd prefer they give you one instance of the weapon in the box and limit you to using only that single instance in the rules as well, than give you the choice to use as many as you like in the rules but leave it to you to spend five minutes converting/bitz ordering? I mean I'm sure what everyone would prefer would be they give you all the options in both the rules AND the kit, but that was never going to happen.

I'm such a mark for good-looking nurgle stuff ...just ordered 2 boxes of blightlords and a foul blightspawn...didn't bother with typhus though - too expensive, and not that great a model, will just keep using my FW Calas Typhon model...annoyingly though, the new typhus is on a 50mm base, whereas calas typhon is on a 40mm, or a 60mm scenic...meh. due to the model almost certainly being considerably smaller than the new typhus, I'll probably just keep him on the tall 60mm scenic base

also, Virules, that conversion is bloody gorgeous!

The Nurgling carrying the grenade is adorable.

He's helping.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't think it's one of each. I think it's one Combi-weapon. Period.

"The Champion of the unit can take combi-weapon upgrades; there’s a plasma, flamer and melta variant available."

So unless all the combi-weapons in the box can take any of the three other bits (melta, flamer, plasma) then it's one combi-weapon.

Looking at the sprue, it appears that the combi-weapon part just plugs right in to the side instead of the second half of the combi-bolter. That means you can build all 3, one of each.

 TheWaspinator wrote:
Wait, did they change Typhus's base size?

yup - 40mm to 50mm.

I like all 3 of the new releases, but the foul blightspawn is my fav this week. He looks disgusting. The termies again aren´t so convincing, to buy more than one box. To make the same termie, build from 2 boxes, look different seems hard for me, as they are pretty singular in appearance.

I can also see that they recycled the demon mouth tongue/tentacle shoulder pad from DI, that is now a knee pad. And I´m really happy, that this effing copy&paste little golden fly symbol from DI and the easy to build pack isn´t all over models. I hope the same goes for the PM.

So we have 2 or 3 weeks to go (1 clampack each week?) and are missing the drones, the tank, the earth drones and the PM. Maybe some daemon stuff. Or am I missing something?
My bet is next are the drones and last are the PM.

The Blightlords are a weird kit indeed. Beautiful models (if the excess tentacles are trimmed off GW insists to put on every surface for DG) but terribly restrictive. I honestly expected a Blight Kings layout with each member getting two very distinct builds to make for two great units out of a duplicate purchase and some of the best starting points for conversions if you want. I should've learned from the Deathshroud box to dial down my expectations for Death Guard kits. 8 heads. Not enough swords and axes. No alternative bellies. Pathetic, kind of. A third sprue, interchangable parts on the plague throwers and/or a smaller flail to leave enough space for other, more important parts for variety and better loadouts would have made this a standout kit.

I will get one box and built Termi Kings for additional Termis over more Blightlords. The chubby Termi is so good, though, I have to get the box for him and some of the heads and weapons. The fleshy, swollen parts of Blight Kings spliced into other Termis will fit great with that one. Much better than tentacles from normal armour. Looks like End Times Nurgle sculptors >> 40k Nurgle sculptors. Just imagine Deathshroud with the flexibility of Kings or even the Maggoth Lords. The maggoth itself has more alt builds than a 'shroud! And those bits are huuuge!

With the Blight-haulers loadout "options"I guess that kit will have a few bits to change on the front plates* at the most and I fear for Plague Marines.

At this point I just hope to have Plague Marines and the Plague Crawler at my birthday on October 12 so I can unwrap some and immediately start kitbashing and bits ordering to have a truly varied army.

*or GW proves me wrong and it'll be a combined kit with drone(s) with a billion bits...for a billion bucks.


PS: The Blightspawn is pretty great, though. Even with the Nurgling looking suspiciously like the one hilding onto a bit of intestines with a new head and a grenade Would an army use two without it being a huge waste of points and slots? I want the new one, but I already have a model I converted last year that's a near-perfect fit (build from a plastic Nurgle lord with a fly-looking Talos head, some Stormfiend cannisters and a scratch-built flamer that looks like a pesticide sprayer).

The guy mutating into a fly in particular strikes me as so unique looking that having duplicates of him in an army would look really weird.

Binabik15 wrote:The fleshy, swollen parts of Blight Kings spliced into other Termis will fit great with that one. Much better than tentacles from normal armour. Looks like End Times Nurgle sculptors >> 40k Nurgle sculptors.

wat? end times nurgle stuff started the bloody tentacle trend! - gutrot spume, the glottkin, even your beloved blightkings have some

changemod wrote:The guy mutating into a fly in particular strikes me as so unique looking that having duplicates of him in an army would look really weird.

I love that fly guy!...I'd be tempted to run a full squad of that model (mixed up a bit with different arms and stuff though of course)

str00dles1 wrote:
Shapeways. Fixes your combi problem. Can get 10 combi plasma or melta for 13 bucks

Or you can get the FW Combi-Weapons pack.
15 GBP nets you 5 each of Combi-Meltas, Plasmas, and Flamers. It's just a hand with a weapon attached to it, so you don't need to worry about whether or not it'll look good on Terminators or Power Armor.

Typhus. What did they do to you, poor soul.
What an abysmal sculpt - bordering on comical imo :(

 Ratius wrote:
Typhus. What did they do to you, poor soul.
What an abysmal sculpt - bordering on comical imo :(

As much as I don't like Typhus' character (he dissed Morty... shame on him), I really wanted to like his new model but I don't. His proportions are too over the top and his pose is a little too showy for a Death Guard character. The Destroyer Hive spilling from his back looks awesome though.

Got a box of Deathshrouds for my birthday.

They're fantastic looking models. Shame that they have exactly two options in the whole kit (choice of scythe head and chest for one model).

What a brave new post-CHS world we live in...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Got a box of Deathshrouds for my birthday.

They're fantastic looking models. Shame that they have exactly two options in the whole kit (choice of scythe head and chest for one model).

What a brave new post-CHS world we live in...

Yeah they're brilliant sculpts, but I have the same problem. Wanted a couple of units of 3 but I hated seeing duplicates so I had to make them a unit of 5 because at least the 4 normal ones can be somewhat disguised, unlike the champion pointing his scythe. Also, the optional scythe head with the chain bit in the tip is really cool for a conversion to use on a Lord of Contagion. I used it on mine for his Manreaper and it replaces the axehead perfectly and looks cooler imo.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Got a box of Deathshrouds for my birthday.

They're fantastic looking models. Shame that they have exactly two options in the whole kit (choice of scythe head and chest for one model).

What a brave new post-CHS world we live in...

Surely it’s a bit late after the whole CHS thing for it to be solely down to that...

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
Typhus. What did they do to you, poor soul.
What an abysmal sculpt - bordering on comical imo :(

As much as I don't like Typhus' character (he dissed Morty... shame on him)

That is who he is, though. He's the defiant son. He hates that Mortarion replicated Barbarus on the Plague Planet and so he does what he wants, when he wants, unless Mortarion really needs him.