Grey Knight Compiled Rumors (Updated Jan. 28th)

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**Whatever1**

sonofruss wrote:Um Sir please Re read the first point you made about teliporting thunder hammers

Yes I was talking about Bjorn
They can do it because they have been around for a long time and know how to kill things that there weapons are good at killing. Unlike just raised scouts who don't cause they have not been trained out of silly behavior. Don't get me wrong I like regular devastators but my long fangs can have a different weapon load out say 3 rockets and 2 heavy bolters and shoot at the same target if there is no better target for the rockets. and even er is putting 5 multimeltas in a drop pod with Logan can you say dead tank I knew you could

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Jaon wrote:Unless your talking about Bjorn, the dark angels dreadnought, you are wrong with the oldest living marine.

Bjorn is a Space Wolf dread sir

If it was about the age of the Long Fangs,then logically every SM SC would have Independant Targeting,as well as every Veteran Sgt.,Veteran Unit,and Terminator Unit. I do realize that it was a throwback to the cheesey rule Gav Thorpe put in the 3rd edition codex,though.

**schadenfreude**

Actually chaos has the oldest marines as time does not pass naturally in the eye of terror, and many deamon princes are veterans of the Horus heresay.

**Dysartes**

schadenfreude wrote:Actually chaos has the oldest marines as time does not pass naturally in the eye of terror, and many deamon princes are veterans of the Horus heresay.

If time does not pass naturally in the EoT, then they might not be - just because you were born before the HH doesn't mean that you lived through the ten thousand years, thanks to the screwy passage of time. You might just have existed for that length of time to an outside observer.....

**bhsman**

Fluff can be used to justify rules, but not always vice versa. Long Fangs being able to split fire doesn't mean other armies never thought of it, just as much as IG revolving around the order system doesn't mean all the other armies act without them.

**Footsloggin**

And, OT again... Anyway, will this codex shift more towards super elite troops, or super elite elites, with even fewer models than ever? Based upon the rumors that is.

**DA's Forever**

If the SC rumors are true, it looks like the one you take is going to influence play heavily, troops wise that is

**Jaon**

Yeah, I totally agree DA's forever

On one hand theres a SC that makes terminators cheaper (and troops or do they start as troops?) and on another there is the commander that allows you to field henchmen (no doubt an inquisitor) and all kinds of stuff. I am looking forward to choosing my commander and building an army centralized around him, HQs never seem very important anywhere except imperial guard. This should add more depth to the choice, not just which one is most cheesy.

I fear stern will be the

myster

**DA's Forever**

Jaon wrote:Yeah, I totally agree DA's forever

On one hand theres a SC that makes terminators cheaper (and troops or do they start as troops?) and on another there is the commander that allows you to field henchmen (no doubt an inquisitor) and all kinds of stuff. I am looking forward to choosing my commander and building an army centralized around him, HQs never seem very important anywhere except imperial guard. This should add more depth to the choice, not just which one is most cheesy.

I fear stern will be the myster

Exactly, with the new GK codex you could easily have three separate list's for each SC, playing off of his Bonuses

The Terminator SC will definitely make things much more interesting.

**Jaon**

Im wondering if this is a chapter tactics situation, where you may only choose one, or if it is more of a "If you have this commander on the field, you get this bonus"

Would fielding both the Terminator SC and the Inquisitor reap 2 benefits to your infantry? No doubt an expensive choice, but in apocalypse, the force multipliers would be insane.

**DA's Forever**

I think GW will more than likely take the Chapter tactics route, which then again as you said i can only see it used in apoc, as in casual games using multiples of them would require a great amount of points

**Jaon**

Im thinking you are correct, as I can imagine shenanigans coming up to do with spamming cheap henchmen AND having tough as nails grey knight terminators backing them up.

For the first time in my life, Im going to have to by the codex before I buy the models.

It looks like some serious decision making is in order.

**DA's Forever**

Jaon wrote:Im thinking you are correct, as I can imagine shenanigans coming up to do with spamming cheap henchmen AND having tough as nails grey knight terminators backing them up.

For the first time in my life, Im going to have to by the codex before I buy the models. It looks like some serious decision making is in order.

True, Its not gonna be Do you play GK's? Its going be like DA's, You Play "Deathwing" or "Ravenwing" ect ect. (GKTermieDeathList!) <Thats a Trademarked term now

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**Jaon**

Well I am definitely going for the GKTD list

Speaking of GKTD lists (Greywing? Knightwing?) Do these scream AWESOME GREY KNIGHT TERMINATOR STORM SHIELD CONVERSION or WHAT!

**DA's Forever**

Im not feeling the middle one to much but the side ones rock!

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GK Grandmaster for sure!

**Jaon**

Im thinking we have a lot in common

That is one impressive mini, I am coming to love sciborminis, I only found out about them today.

**DA's Forever**

I found out about them a little while ago too, but i never went to check them out because i didn't want to leave dakka

To Myself :Open a new tab idiot

**Jaon**

Haha, you are a wise man indeed

Im thinking if these Paladin Terminators are true, but they dont have any distinct modular difference between normal terminators scibor minis is the place to go to pimp them out into truly awesome models, and it wont bust the bank either.

**shrike**

wow. I'm gonna be getting one of those as grand masters.
only problem is- should I get the daemonhammer/power fist one or the NFW/SS one?
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NFW/SS. Better in-game adn the model's cooler.

**DA's Forever**

Scibor minis is indeed looking like the go to place for awesome terminators

**shrike**

AGREED.

If I lose my LR ebay bid, i'm gonna be getting me one of those.

**DA's Forever**

Ditch the raider! Ditch the Raider! Ditch the Raider! Get the Terminator

**shrike**

aw, but it's the really cute mk1 one!

nah, I WILL get it, just after...my land raider...and my DKoK engineers and commissar...

**DA's Forever**

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Long list is tooooo Long

Never was a fan of the Mk1 raiders

**shrike**

The model was terrible, but now I can't not look back at it and go "awww."

**DA's Forever**

Pull yourself together man! This is Grimdark! We aint got time for "awwww"! Get the GK Grandmaster!

**shrike**

DA's Forever wrote:

Pull yourself together man! This is Grimdark! We aint got time for "awwww"!

I rest my case.

**DA's Forever**

Where did i put my exterminatus...

**shrike**

Old land raiders are cute!!! I want one to pet it as I play...

Nah, if the land raider reaches above £50, I'm out- I might as well pay the extra £8 and get the heresy-era one, or buy a normal LR and get some plasticard...

**Jaon**

Well, (refering to the scibor minis) nothing like a model that your opponent goes WTF WOW WHERE DID YOU GET THAT!

Always nice to have a unique counts as centrepiece.

**DA's Forever**

Leave it to Jaon to get us back on track

But yeah, painted up real nice those things would be wicked