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KNIGHT TITAN! KNIGHT TITAN! KNIGHT TITAN!
Oke am i still the only one praying for this? how cool would it be?

bhsman wrote:The thought of that model depresses me. It just sounds...dumb. Why would you even have it in the first place? Why not a Penitent Engine?

Because a Penitent Engine consists of two essential parts - the engine and the penitent. While GK could probably get an engine running, finding a penitent among them would be really, really hard. A cross between a dread and termie actually makes sense for what it's supposed to do, and it's not like we're facing another "gosh, we found yet another STC" scenario because GK already use some very specific, exotic weaponry.

fatty wrote:KNIGHT TITAN! KNIGHT TITAN! KNIGHT TITAN!
Oke am i still the only one praying for this? how cool would it be?

very cool, but you should be praying to FW for that...
SD NFW titan CCW....
wrist-mounted vulkan mega-bolter....

His Master's Voice wrote:

bhsman wrote:The thought of that model depresses me. It just sounds...dumb. Why would you even have it in the first place? Why not a Penitent Engine?

Because a Penitent Engine consists of two essential parts - the engine and the penitent. While GK could probably get an engine running, finding a penitent among them would be really, really hard. A cross between a dread and termie actually makes sense for what it's supposed to do, and it's not like we're facing another "gosh, we found yet another STC" scenario because GK already use some very specific, exotic weaponry.

Yeah, it could just be that the Grey Knights were just 'playing nice' and got tired of all the daemon's gak and 'unleashed the dreadknight'

Longfangs (more cheesey than OTT, but why can SW deverstators shoot at 2 targets and other SM deverstators can't?)

Cause Guilliman said you can't.

I dislike the dreadknight concept. One of the coolest things about GK was that in the most climactic battles against daemons, despite how gargantuan the bloodthirster was, it was still just a space marine in silver armor holding it off.

I like it, but more chaos spawn-size, like a large terminator, less of a MC dread.

Well I hope its just a terminator with a really really BIG GUN.

Empire at war quotes aside, It wont be so bad, but I do agree with one of the above posts, about the marine in silver armour fighting a greater daemon. Things were never meant to be easy or fair for grey knights. I dont want this turning into a "Sanguinor vs Blood thirster" codex, ala the grey knight terminator jumped out of the thunderhawk and landed on the Bloodthirsters balls, which exploded into many smaller blood thirsters etc.

So I'm guessing as an IG player I won't be putting GK termy squads in my army Anyone know if this is true?
Use to rely on these boys in 3rd, well just got to start a GK when they come out

Hulksmash wrote:Glad to have your opinion Jaon.

Except Stickeymonkey is pretty solid on his previous rumor information.

I'll go with him over your "reasoning" anyday. Thanks for playing though

Stick monkey has been 80% wrong and every rumor he has said in the last 2 years. Last year he said dark elder would NEVER see the light of day and early 2012 would be 6th edition. He is a rambling bafoon.

cgage00 wrote:

Hulksmash wrote:Glad to have your opinion Jaon.

Except Stickeymonkey is pretty solid on his previous rumor information.

I'll go with him over your "reasoning" anyday. Thanks for playing though

Stick monkey has been 80% wrong and every rumor he has said in the last 2 years. Last year he said dark elder would NEVER see the light of day and early 2012 would be 6th edition. He is a rambling bafoon.

Once again, thank you for the support

AgeOfEgos wrote:
Well, Cruddace wrote it...and 0-3 for a slot seems to be his first order of business in a dex.

Cruddace is writing it? That's confirmed?

DAMN NO STORMRAVENS!

well, at least it's not ward. I don't want C:GK to be "grey knights are to space marines what space marines are to imperial guard, for they are the masters of cheese."
I'm going to be able to sleep tonight! Cruddance is okay.

Man, it's kinda distressing to know that GW knows exactly what they are doing with regards to removing allies: almost every player in this thread that I've seen lament the loss of their allies just winds up saying "well, I guess I'll just make a GK army too". And GW smiles.

ph34r wrote:Man, it's kinda distressing to know that GW knows exactly what they are doing with regards to removing allies: almost every player in this thread that I've seen lament the loss of their allies just winds up saying "well, I guess I'll just make a GK army too". And GW smiles.

I KNEW IT!
ITS A TRAP!

To be fair, although I approve of the ability to field allies, I don't think it's entirely fair.
For example, only certain Codices receive these allies, adding a sense of imbalance. Also, lets be fair, many of the Imperial Codices are currently the most powerful and in therefore don't need any help in a competitive environment, whereas in friendly games, whether official or not, allies will likely be allowed.
I'd let someone field a Squad or 2 of Space Marines with their Imperial Guard (at slightly increased pts cost mind), whether Games workshop says they officially can or not...
That's my view anyway.

shrike wrote:well, at least it's not ward. I don't want C:GK to be "grey knights are to space marines what space marines are to imperial guard, for they are the masters of cheese."
I'm going to be able to sleep tonight! Cruddance is okay.

Precisely what I was thinking. I wasn't a fan of... Ooops. There's a tornado. Be back later.

wait, what?

Oh, nothing. Just work being somewhat of a nag. Apparently there was a tornado that touched down nearby and they had us evacuate to the bottom of the building. No biggie.

Anyway, as I was saying: Not an overall fan of Robin's work on Tyranids, but I really like the options given in the IG codex. I'd much rather deal he write it than someone like Ward. I would hate for something to happen like a GKGM teams up with some Tau to kill a few Daemons and then they exchange BFF bracelets afterward.

This time they'd team up with Orks! Tau have been done though does it count if the DE betrayed them afterwards? Hmmm....

yeah- cruddance doesn't go ape and make completely OTT units "because marines can do anything".
I would most like to have Kelly, but one bad thing about him- SW. Just repeating what i've heard, but:
teleporting thunder hammer,
SM riding giant wolves,
dreadnought SC,
a super psychic hood that works for 24"- nullifies all psy powers on a 3+,
and SW devestators being better than SM devestators "because they are".
[/rant]
anyways, yeah. Beggars can't be choosers.

From my point of view, the IG codex was lacking in fluff, but never were its descriptions or units OTT, so hopefully GK are the same, with a bit better fluff.


Although there was a small part in me that hoped GK would turn out like BA only 10 times worse, and win at everything.

fatty wrote:KNIGHT TITAN! KNIGHT TITAN! KNIGHT TITAN!
Oke am i still the only one praying for this? how cool would it be?

How did that NOT summon Platuan4th?

shrike wrote:yeah- cruddance doesn't go ape and make completely OTT units "because marines can do anything".
I would most like to have Kelly, but one bad thing about him- SW. Just repeating what i've heard, but:
teleporting thunder hammer,
SM riding giant wolves,
dreadnought SC,
a super psychic hood that works for 24"- nullifies all psy powers on a 3+,
and SW devestators being better than SM devestators "because they are".
[/rant]
anyways, yeah. Beggars can't be choosers.

Wolves Do Not teleport
Some of those wolves are larger than a van or lorry for the brits
That dread is the oldest living loyalist marine and then there is the blood angels dread moiar
He is a beast big deal
They are very old and know how to fight better than just raised scouts

Unless your talking about Bjorn, the dark angels dreadnought, you are wrong with the oldest living marine.

sonofruss wrote:

shrike wrote:yeah- cruddance doesn't go ape and make completely OTT units "because marines can do anything".
I would most like to have Kelly, but one bad thing about him- SW. Just repeating what i've heard, but:
teleporting thunder hammer,
SM riding giant wolves,
dreadnought SC,
a super psychic hood that works for 24"- nullifies all psy powers on a 3+,
and SW devestators being better than SM devestators "because they are".
[/rant]
anyways, yeah. Beggars can't be choosers.

Wolves Do Not teleport
Some of those wolves are larger than a van or lorry for the brits
That dread is the oldest living loyalist marine and then there is the blood angels dread moiar
He is a beast big deal
They are very old and know how to fight better than just raised scouts

Wolves don't teleport? That's not what I said.
most of the wolves are about the size of the SW riding it.
He is big deal and where is this BA dread? He isn't in the codex.
Because they are old, they can shoot at different targets?

Jaon wrote:Unless your talking about Bjorn, the dark angels dreadnought, you are wrong with the oldest living marine.

Bjorn is SW. And technically, dreads aren't living. "Even in death I still serve"?

Shrike, two out of your five complaints are based on historical precedent - both Bjorn as a dreadnought SC and the Long Fang split-fire rule have been around since the 2nd and 3rd edition of the game, respectively. The Long Fang rule wasn't required in 2nd edition due to independent targeting.

Moriar, the Blood Angels Death Company Dreadnought special character, appeared in the 3rd edition Blood Angels codex, though I don't recall it specifying his age. I don't recall if he was in the 4th or 5th edition ones.

shrike wrote:

sonofruss wrote:

shrike wrote:yeah- cruddance doesn't go ape and make completely OTT units "because marines can do anything".
I would most like to have Kelly, but one bad thing about him- SW. Just repeating what i've heard, but:
teleporting thunder hammer,
SM riding giant wolves,
dreadnought SC,
a super psychic hood that works for 24"- nullifies all psy powers on a 3+,
and SW devestators being better than SM devestators "because they are".
[/rant]
anyways, yeah. Beggars can't be choosers.

Wolves Do Not teleport
Some of those wolves are larger than a van or lorry for the brits
That dread is the oldest living loyalist marine and then there is the blood angels dread moiar
He is a beast big deal
They are very old and know how to fight better than just raised scouts

Wolves don't teleport? That's not what I said.
most of the wolves are about the size of the SW riding it.
He is big deal and where is this BA dread? He isn't in the codex.
Because they are old, they can shoot at different targets?

Jaon wrote:Unless your talking about Bjorn, the dark angels dreadnought, you are wrong with the oldest living marine.

Bjorn is SW. And technically, dreads aren't living. "Even in death I still serve"?

Sorry dude, but dreadnoughts arent dead, and are you quoting Dawn of War there? Naughty

If you read up on dreadnoughts, it specifically says "A warrior who has suffered a grevous or mortal wound, but still has the emperors light shining in his eyes may continue to serve the emperor in the armoured carapace of a dreadnought"

If they were actually dead, they cant be put in a dreadnought. "Even In Death" is just a figure of speech.

...I stand corrected.

Um Sir please Re read the first point you made about teliporting thunder hammers

Yes I was talking about Bjorn
They can do it because they have been around for a long time and know how to kill things that there weapons are good at killing. Unlike just raised scouts who don't cause they have not been trained out of silly behavior. Don't get me wrong I like regular devastators but my long fangs can have a different weapon load out say 3 rockets and 2 heavy bolters and shoot at the same target if there is no better target for the rockets. and even er is putting 5 multimeltas in a drop pod with Logan can you say dead tank I knew you could


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Jaon wrote:Unless your talking about Bjorn, the dark angels dreadnought, you are wrong with the oldest living marine.

Bjorn is a Space Wolf dread sir