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prussia59 wrote:
Now, this being said, only about 10% of the entire military is classified as front-line, and the other 90% does see combat. But I stick to my original statement as true.

The UK has female front line fighter pilots and a lot of our navy is staffed by women. The army also has a wide range of front line positions filled by women. Front line troops are not just riflemen.

prussia59 wrote:For example, Cadia is in constant threat of being destroyed by the dark powers,

It's not. The forces arrayed against it are tiny and led by Captain Failure himself, and Cadia is the single most heavily fortified location short of Terra. The Cadian Military itself outstrips the entire combined strength of the loyalist Space Marines several (dozen) times over, and the entirety of the traitor legions are only a small fraction of that size, to say nothing of the fact that only a small portion of them give Abaddon the time of day to begin with.

and therefore might find it necessary to sacrifice their moral high ground for another few regiments. Another example is of course Valhalla, known for meat-grinding tactics and heartless sensibilities.

Every man woman and child on Cadia is part of its armed forces.

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:
It's not. The forces arrayed against it are tiny and led by Captain Failure himself, and Cadia is the single most heavily fortified location short of Terra. The Cadian Military itself outstrips the entire combined strength of the loyalist Space Marines several (dozen) times over, and the entirety of the traitor legions are only a small fraction of that size, to say nothing of the fact that only a small portion of them give Abaddon the time of day to begin with.

Yes, he failed, after GW sort of um... pulled a fast one so that Chaos didn't win the 13th Black Crusade. See, the problem was that Chaos won in space, and made a decent showing on the ground. This led GW to pull some slight of hand by reprinting and double counting several Imperial wins in the BFG part of the campaign so they could claim Abby lost in space. To try and cover that up, they printed them on different pages of the BFG report of wins and losses for Black Crusade.

So, in Abby's defense, he actually succeeded, but by the power of GW fiat, he failed. It was sort of like in Empire in Flames when... oops, the Empire lost so hard that Karl Franz was killed. Wow was that thrown out fast.

You know how it is, status quo is god.

It's why I laugh at every time a comic book publisher announces the 'death' of a character.

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prussia59 wrote:Just a point -

While it is pretty barbaric for women to serve on front-line duty in the military (even the Soviets didn't do that), I wouldn't be surprised if all-female regiments are used fairly widely throughout the Imperium.

Why barbaric? Woman can sometime be a better fighter than men ( the guy who literary make Quake 3 was bitten only once - and by a women ). In WW2 women served in Soviet Ground Forces, but they where rare. And they where under protection simply because some men didn't see woman for quite some time and anything could happen then. As for the Imperium, like others said - Cadian female are serving in PDF regiments, so that Cadia can have stable birth rate. Only Regiments without females are the one from a planet with special rules ( like Vostroya ).

Fluff wise, yes there are women who serve in the IG. How ever the table top is a different story for the IG.

Maniac_nmt wrote:

Melissia wrote:The logic is that the women are needed to breed more cadians, while the men are rather expendable in comparison.

Essentially, sexist to both genders in a purely logical and non-biased away.

Not even remotely sexist, basic survivalist.

From a pure survival of the species mentality, you can have far more men die and still carry on as a society/civilization. Sending your women off to fight is simply bad survival strategy.

Nothing to do with sexism at all.

can't it be both?

rovian wrote: also impartially men are much less likely to succumb to the same wound inflicted on a woman can go farther for long and have a signafcantly better physicaal tolerance.

what are you basing that on? how many gunshots do you think you could take to non-kill zones compared to any lady friend you may have. a soldier is a soldier, a mortal is a mortal, if you were fighting for you life would you give up "significantly" to use your word faster if you were a female?

or I could put it this way, a female contestant for "the Biggest Loser" could beat you on an obstacle course with only 3 months of hard training. a Female and Male soldier training for the Imperial Guard for 15 years means that the gap between what they need to fight is non-existent, if she has been carrying a Lasgun around for that long then you'd see a vast difference to any other commoner who just picked one up yesterday.

Flinty wrote:The UK has female front line fighter pilots and a lot of our navy is staffed by women. The army also has a wide range of front line positions filled by women. Front line troops are not just riflemen.

The US does the same. I think the US has also started experimenting with mixed gender SSBN crews (adding a few females to a couple of otherwise all male crews), which imo is probably not such a good idea...

Lord General Lucina Camilla think more woman should join the Imperial Guard.

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