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My little bro got the new codex:nids this weekend, and reading through it I couldn't help but notice how many dudes there were without models. Almost all of the big bugs were model-less: Harpies, Tyrannofex, the Swarmlord, and some others. Is GW going to make these models eventually, or will we have to buy them from Forge World? And of course, it seems like all the units without models are the really huge ones that are hard to convert.

One hopefull note: I did see this picture on the GW site, with what looks like a Tyrannofex in the background.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=7300010a

One unhopefull note: This article tells how to convert models like the Swarmlord and Tyrannofex. Yes, it does say you have to buy four Hive Tyrants if you want four boneswords.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=8000023a

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty sure that GW's crazy if it expects us to pay $200 to convert one model.




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And what do they expect us do do with the Doom of Malan'tai?

Yorick_of_Tau wrote:One hopefull note: I did see this picture on the GW site, with what looks like a Tyrannofex in the background.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=7300010a

One unhopefull note: This article tells how to convert models like the Swarmlord and Tyrannofex. Yes, it does say you have to buy four Hive Tyrants if you want four boneswords.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=8000023a

That's a bio-titan. Been out a few years.

there are bit shops that would sell the bone swords. just need to use ya head mate

GW used to do their best to avoid putting out lists with units they did not have plans to make miniatures for, but this last year the studio decided to not worry about whether there is plans for miniatures and give people cool rules and a chance for conversions.

Personally I like the this idea.

I've converted bone swords out of the scything talon arms by themselves very easily. A little creativity goes a long ways with conversions.

Boneswords shouldn't be too hard to sculpt out of Greenstuff, or whittle from a Scything Talon.

Tyrannofex seems pretty easy going on the Websites example, and I intend on using the forthcoming plastic Fellbeast as the basis for my version of a Harpy.

It's all part of the Hobby matey. Sooner or later, the idea is they will all have models, and in the meantime you can always convert. I'm quite enjoying the conversion opportunities!

2nd wave I see being doom of malanti, parasite, harpy (p), tyrannofex/tervigon (p), mycetic spore (p).

Doom of Mal'antai should be a cinche. Take a Zoanthrope, extend ribs using Paperclips and Greenstuff, and to finish, do a Greenstuff hood.

I think all of the new MC's in the Tyranid codex would be a sinch to make. Especially since GW is doing this whole modular / interchangeable bitz thing. They Tervigon, Tyrannofex, Harpy and that other flying MC can all be fabricated out of the plastic kits with a bit of creativity. The only MC I think would be an issue is Doom of Malantai.

And if GW only included rules for the existing kits, people would whine about there not being enough new units in the Codex. Sigh.

Doom isn't a Monstrous Creature. Just given my Codex to my flatmate, so can't check right now, but I'm 99% sure it's just a ponced up Zoanthrope.

Hell, if you want to be lazy, just trawl the Webz for an original Zoanthrope, or use one of the previous with the Head Armour. As long as it's a unique model in your army, only a dill weed would really complain. This for example, even if you just stick it's noggin on a standard Zoanthrope, I'd accept it

Doom of M should be easy for anyone who has bought and built a trygon. After finishing the Trygon the head piece with the spines for the mawloc remains. After a little work with the dremmel and some green stuff and that head piece fits perfectly over the zoey's head. Already built one myself using that piece.

Axyl wrote:Doom of M should be easy for anyone who has bought and built a trygon. After finishing the Trygon the head piece with the spines for the mawloc remains. After a little work with the dremmel and some green stuff and that head piece fits perfectly over the zoey's head. Already built one myself using that piece.

Sounds cool, post pics!

ph34r wrote:

Axyl wrote:Doom of M should be easy for anyone who has bought and built a trygon. After finishing the Trygon the head piece with the spines for the mawloc remains. After a little work with the dremmel and some green stuff and that head piece fits perfectly over the zoey's head. Already built one myself using that piece.

Sounds cool, post pics!

ok!!

Will have to wait a couple hours though...I'm still stuck at work.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

It's all part of the Hobby matey. Sooner or later, the idea is they will all have models, and in the meantime you can always convert. I'm quite enjoying the conversion opportunities!

For you maybe - don't make such blanket generalisations. Converting is a waste of time and many people have zero interest in chopping expensive models into pieces. If you are going to release a codex you should have the dang models ready. What the heck is so difficult to understand about that.

fullheadofhair wrote:If you are going to release a codex you should have the dang models ready. What the heck is so difficult to understand about that.

And then people would (and did) moan about not getting any new models for 6 years between Codex updates.

If all the models come out at once, what have you got to look forward to for the next 4-6 years? Plus the codex options would be very limited, as GW only budget for 3-4 plastic kits per release, and not many more than that in metal. Plus many gamers DO love to convert options and models, and an unmodelled unit gives them the freedom to go crazy.

If they had released figs based on the art in the book for Tervigons and T-Fexes, I don't think I would have gotten them. I'm much more psyched about getting to make my own.

As promised:





Personally I'm not sold on the extra spines that I put on the head...may just take them off. I just so happened to discover that the top of the trygon head was nearly the exact same size as the zoanthrope head. Hopefully this will give you other converters out there an idea of how to make your unique zoey's.

Yorick_of_Tau wrote:My little bro got the new codex:nids this weekend, and reading through it I couldn't help but notice how many dudes there were without models. Almost all of the big bugs were model-less: Harpies, Tyrannofex, the Swarmlord, and some others. Is GW going to make these models eventually, or will we have to buy them from Forge World? And of course, it seems like all the units without models are the really huge ones that are hard to convert.

One hopefull note: I did see this picture on the GW site, with what looks like a Tyrannofex in the background.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=7300010a

One unhopefull note: This article tells how to convert models like the Swarmlord and Tyrannofex. Yes, it does say you have to buy four Hive Tyrants if you want four boneswords.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=8000023a

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty sure that GW's crazy if it expects us to pay $200 to convert one model.




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And what do they expect us do do with the Doom of Malan'tai?

I almost see them as trying to make a space marine codex but still take advantage of the evolutionary nature of bugs. I'm hoping this is the beginning of GW trying to get back to the days when there was character and great storytelling. Everything seems to have become so bland and 'streamlined' for the purposes of profitability, but I like the idea of having to convert my own stuff. Of course, it would be nice to at least know what size base these new guys should...

fullheadofhair wrote:
Converting is a waste of time...

Whatever. I think someone mentioned something about blanket statements...

The Codex is good for people with old models:
web strangler and "harpoon" gaunts, biocannon-Terrorfex = Armorcast Exocrine, Tervigon = Armorcast Malefactor and so on.

My choice for Doom of M is the Troll Forge Alien Brain (slightly smaller than a Zoanthrop) or better still Alien Pod Brain: http://trollforged.com/shelf_sci-fi_Aliens.html

For the Parasite thingy I take a Konami plastic Alien Queen with Zombie Dragon wings, as Alpha Warrior a normal Warrior with Alien Queen head and some shoulder pads. Harpy is just a Carnifex with Balrog wings, maybe add a Trygon head.

Troll Forge is working on Alien heads for genestealers, making good Yrmgarl Genestealers.

BTW IMHO the Pyrovore and Hive Guard should switch their models, although I won't field both very often.

I hate converting. It really angers me how Space Marines have multiple versions of almost everything despite having the biggest range, and yet Tyranids are released with no models for multiple core choices.
At least this time they had the decency to admit that you had to convert your own- with orks, they mentioned in white dwarf that they were developing a Big Ork Vehicle kit before the 3rd ed codex was released, and then sat around with their thumbs up their asses for 2 editions of the game.

Converting is great. beside just look up on bols. there having an article on it. besides dont blame them space marines are there main source of income. so ofcourse thay will get more.

The OPTION to convert is great. Being forced to convert is really annoying for some people.

no one is forcing you to convert, you could go with a proxy.

At an official tournament? Not bloody likely.
"This carnifex is a tyranofex, and so is this one. But THIS one is a Harpy. This one over here is a troops choice tervigon, that one is my HQ choice. Those three are actually carnifex. Clear?"
"Uh, what?"

well then convert. its not that hard. add wings to a carnifex. its not that hard converting.

*facepalm*

facepalm back at you