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I remember when minis were poorly modelled and they were made of lovely toxic lead.Those were the days.

Indeed. I remember the first metal Terminators, all highly detailed soft lead. I remember when the only rule for how many orks could in a Trukk was how many you could stack on without any falling off (and those that did fall off died instantly).

I remember when Rhinos came thee to a box, and the Mk1 Lander Raider box was twice the size of a Rhino box.

Remember Marauder Miniatures, and those huge squad pack blister packs?

SJ

jeffersonian000 wrote:I remember when the only rule for how many orks could in a Trukk was how many you could stack on without any falling off (and those that did fall off died instantly).

Ah, the gakstorm this would cause in today's metagame. I like the RPG style like this though, where the players have to be honest. It keeps the fun as the first priority.

I have a question about that: were people like they are today back in those days?

I may be looking through rose tinted glasses, but I can't remember arguing over rules in those days (unless you were playing WRG 6th edition). It seems to me soon as a rule set starts getting used for tournaments the arguements start...
I remember the Rhinos three to a box and IG could use them as well!
Mick

I remember 3 rhinos and 30 marines for a £20 plus P&P and cost of the postal order from the money I got doing a paper round at 11. And Imperial jetbikes! and IG using land speeders and the jetbikes! Penal legion guys being blown up after a suicide charge! And best of all, the rules actually in the white dwarf so you had em already
Oh and ofcourse lack of opponents in my area as it was so low key at the time

Yep, old git reporting for meandering ramblings. I mean gentleman reporting for the club after all

i can recall when my towns first games workshop opened. it was next door to a comic shop and an odeon cinema. I used to go into town collect my comics, go next door and check out all the lead figures handing on the walls, buy a few dwarfs then go to the flicks. I could do all this for less than a tenner each weekend and still have change to go to burger king and get a whopper! Those were the days.

Us old people should start our own games company with a GOOD rules system, and minatures and paint and everything else to monopolise the market! With hookers! and blackjack! In fact forget the games company!

Vermillion wrote:Us old people should start our own games company with a GOOD rules system, and minatures and paint and everything else to monopolise the market! With hookers! and blackjack! In fact forget the games company!

LOL

In fact screw the black Jack! Bender lol

Hey yeah!.I would wan't to make star wars.I also remember when people would respect minature painters instead of shouting "NERD" and breaking a 7-year old's space marine.Another fond memory is when you could walk into a GW store and look at products without being pestered by employees.

I don't remember the baggies, but I can remember when GW seemed to opening three stores a month, and all of them had Grand Opening Sales.

I also remember when Mail Order used to do army deals with the exact armies form that month's WD Battle Report...

DarkHound wrote:

jeffersonian000 wrote:I remember when the only rule for how many orks could in a Trukk was how many you could stack on without any falling off (and those that did fall off died instantly).

Ah, the gakstorm this would cause in today's metagame. I like the RPG style like this though, where the players have to be honest. It keeps the fun as the first priority.

I have a question about that: were people like they are today back in those days?

Yes. We had people building decks on their trucks, moving half their army at one go, and building railings to contain them so they wouldn't fall....

I remember IG on the old Black Shadow bikes with their 'cowboy' hats. If only you could do an IG these days with all those lovely toys...
Mick

One of my favorite WD issues had some excellent Traveller articles... awesome new ships and stuff... yeah, the old days.. used to have to drive to Vancouver BC Canada to go to the closest GW stores. The only US GW stores were on the east coast. Used to go up there 2x a year. It was so much fun.

RennyD

Kragura wrote:Aw I came in here all exited, then I found out is was for old people
Then I got exited again

Why is it you find the funny comments just as you're taking a drink? [and who knew that coffee was a decent screen cleaner? ]

chromedog wrote:...so now it's just a mining town...and our own GW store

We have a huge university(complete with research hospital), a technology "corrider" and one of the lowest crime rates I've ever seen and we can't keep a GW store in the state... Wait. Is that a bad thing?

Ed_Bodger wrote:There are three things that hasten the development of the internet and IT in general War, Porn and computer games.
However these three things are not equal: War 20%, Gaming 10% Porn 70%
Therefore 2/3 of everything can be related to porn.

I'd be willing to bet there's an eroge MMORTS out there somewhere. Probably something involving demons with tentacles and young japanese girls with big round eyes.

penut the butter wrote:I remember when minis were poorly modelled and they were made of lovely toxic lead.Those were the days.

I loved those minis. You could work with them. I hated the switch to all the "white metal" alloys. Those health danger fears were highly alarmist. Lead just got a bum rap, I'm telling you. Now if I could just remember where I left my seizure medication. Ooooh....squirrels.

Mick A wrote:I remember IG on the old Black Shadow bikes with their 'cowboy' hats. If only you could do an IG these days with all those lovely toys...Mick

As I recall, RT had the stats for a Vincent Black Shadow. I believe it had armor plated wheels. Bet that's good for the kidneys.

Obsidian wrote:

Vermillion wrote:Us old people should start our own games company with a GOOD rules system, and minatures and paint and everything else to monopolise the market! With hookers! and blackjack! In fact forget the games company!

LOL
In fact screw the black Jack! Bender lol

Will whiskey be involved? I'm too old for all the fancy drugs these whippersnappers use nowadways.

I remember a time before plastic rhinos. Heck, before rhinos, really. Anyone else remember the "deodorant" hover-tank? Last time I went to the FLGS, I think I was the only person there old enough to legally drink, much less remember Orks when they could shoot reasonably straight. It's good to know there's some other old-timers out there.
One thing I definitely don't miss was the old-school grognards at the (not so)FLGS where I got my start always going on about how Fantasy/SciFi was going to ruin wargaming. I remember going to check out a local wargaming club, and when I brought up 40k, they told me to take my little plastic space-men and go home. I do miss the emphasis on scenario instead of army lists. RT had a great random scenario generator.

Ah the deoderent hover-tank.I used to have 50 of them.

Space marine speeder were 2 marines on lawn chairs with big engines and came in a boxed set with a tarantula, a mole mortar, and speeder. They also came in a plastic blister:



not my original speeder, i picked this one up about 5 years ago and i got this at the same time (not my first box of them either):



Marines came 32 to a box set and were mutli-part plastic and cost about $35CDN

I still have my Space Orks box set, when Orks could use plasma cannon and Hair squigs came in mohawk form.

Also when squigs were part of the tyranid army and orks just appropreated them.

Ahh, the days back when Whitedwarf had detailed instructions on how to model your own Cities of Death from Cardboard, and even had templates and instructions for baneblades, Ork Vehichles and even encouraged creativity!!

...
p0Rn!!

I remember when the only bikes that I saw Citadel advertising were meant for Judge Dredd. (and thinking, at the time, 'Who's this Judge Dredd guy anyway?') A time when having 20 miniatures meant that you and a friend could have a cool 40K skirmish.

In those halcyon days, there were no GW stores in my city. Heck, there still aren't. Only stores that carried their product. It wasn't until two years ago that I set a foot into one of them thar Games Workshop store with their fancy doodle Space Marine standin' about as though he hadn't a care in the world. In my day, we had a card board cut out of a Land Raider. It weren't nothin' too special, but it was ours. It did fine by us. </Old Coot Voice>

I remember buying mini's with my lunch money. Now, it costs the same as a week's worth of groceries. Yikes! School lunch sure is expensive.

the_emperors_renegade wrote:Lol newcastle...why don't you live in melle?

I have. Spent a wonderful couple of years down there. There wasn't a GW in melb at the time, either.

Love the place. The wife also likes the place, but her family are up here and it's convenient for me.
We still try to get down there 1-2 times a year as we have many friends down there.

May not be as old as some but it's disturbing that I now fit into this category. It's hard not to just blurt words but......Red and Yellow dot sales...I bought a mighty fortress, loads of pygmies and ninjas and some beloved stunties all with my rather meager birthday money. (Now you'd get a single fig in a blister in return for your first born and GW employee telling you that you need four or five baneblades and anything else that's just come out and needs to be sold.) My pygmies/ninjas/fortress are all lovingly packed away in a cupboard, I'm going for the dorian gray approach that if I can keep them new and shiny I will never age and the hobby of my youth will be preserved.

Whole bloodbowl teams for £10-11 in hard plastic blisters. Nippon and Cathay? The troll games - Oi dats my leg, Hungry trolls and gobbo's. Advanced Heroquest. Genestealer cults with limo's? Hover boards (now my squat rough riders hehehehehe!). Orks were an ultra violent fungus and Birmingham was destroyed. The Fimir in WHFB. The admission that cigars were used to generate smoke in the WHFB siege book. Marauder miniatures in general.........sigh........Now what was that about blackjack and hookers?

I remember there was always a table free for a game of Gorkamorka...*le sigh*

Sadly, though I fit in the Old Coots club, my yesterdays were filled with Traveller, D&D and Gamma World.

I do remember picking up a White Dwarf and reading about Warhammer... back in the day when they had Traveller articles in White Dwarf.

Cheese Elemental wrote:This just in: Dakka becomes a porno site! HOT xenos love heresy inside!

Heheheheheh, once upon a time.......... Years back, our local club started as the Ironfist 40K Club. Had a website, ironfist40K, monthly newsletter. We even managed to get interviews of Jervis etal when they came to Baltimore Games Day. Climbed up to apretty decent hit count. Well, anyways, as we expanded and branched in Fantasy and other GW games, we decided it was time for a change. So we let the site lapse and went to our current IronFistLeague.com address. Less than a month later I show up at Baltimore Games Day and have barely signed in and gotten my working assignment when what seems like half the US staff are crowded around me wanting to know what we were doing converting our site to a porn site! What!? We go and check the IFL site and nothing, then they say, no, your OTHER site....... Turns out that someone had apparently bought our old site address and was running it as a porn site, and I had missed changing the link on the old GW clubs listing. Apparently they had gotten some irate calls from parents, and well, **it rolls downhill.


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Frostyfire wrote:Space marine speeder were 2 marines on lawn chairs with big engines and came in a boxed set with a tarantula, a mole mortar, and speeder. They also came in a plastic blister:



not my original speeder, i picked this one up about 5 years ago

Heck, I've still got my IG landspeeders, robots, bikers, etc. I use all the old RT-era IG infantry and eggs-on-legs sentinels as one of my current IG armies. The other one is converted from Lizardmen...........

Aye I remember reading about a Dreadnought and wanting one of the huge massive vehicles that blitzed the oblivion out of their foes, not the walkers we have these days.

I also remember those blood bowl teams in an clear plastic case, damn that was good.
Would be interesting to know the difference in value compared to today, I have an odd feeling things may not have been as cheap as I remember.

To think I had 17 fully painted Blood Bowl teams by 94, and traded them all for Star Trek CCG cards. *weeps*

The Green Git wrote:Sadly, though I fit in the Old Coots club, my yesterdays were filled with Traveller, D&D and Gamma World.

I do remember picking up a White Dwarf and reading about Warhammer... back in the day when they had Traveller articles in White Dwarf.

Ah! Gamma World! I use to play Gammamauraders (the Gamma World board game). To this day I still refer the infantry as "popcorn"; of course, that never set well with my drill sergeants back in Basic Training.

Come to think of it, reading White Dwarf articles on D&D led to me buying Dragon magezine for the 40k articles. Weird.

SJ

don_mondo wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:This just in: Dakka becomes a porno site! HOT xenos love heresy inside!

Heheheheheh, once upon a time.......... Years back, our local club started as the Ironfist 40K Club. Had a website, ironfist40K, monthly newsletter. We even managed to get interviews of Jervis etal when they came to Baltimore Games Day. Climbed up to apretty decent hit count. Well, anyways, as we expanded and branched in Fantasy and other GW games, we decided it was time for a change. So we let the site lapse and went to our current IronFistLeague.com address. Less than a month later I show up at Baltimore Games Day and have barely signed in and gotten my working assignment when what seems like half the US staff are crowded around me wanting to know what we were doing converting our site to a porn site! What!? We go and check the IFL site and nothing, then they say, no, your OTHER site....... Turns out that someone had apparently bought our old site address and was running it as a porn site, and I had missed changing the link on the old GW clubs listing. Apparently they had gotten some irate calls from parents, and well, **it rolls downhill.


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Frostyfire wrote:Space marine speeder were 2 marines on lawn chairs with big engines and came in a boxed set with a tarantula, a mole mortar, and speeder. They also came in a plastic blister:



not my original speeder, i picked this one up about 5 years ago

Heck, I've still got my IG landspeeders, robots, bikers, etc. I use all the old RT-era IG infantry and eggs-on-legs sentinels as one of my current IG armies. The other one is converted from Lizardmen...........

Now what about Elton Yang?!?

Ah, misinterpretations of Iron Fist...

I guess I fit the "Gentleman's club" criteria. Started back in the mid '80's with WHFBv1. Bought my first 40k figures before the rules even got to our FLGS ("Star Soldiers" in the Citadel Collectors blister packs). 'Course back then there were no interwebs and the term "FLGS" hadn't been coined yet to the best of my knowledge. We b!tched about Citadel's prices when they went from 6 figures in a blister for $4.50 to 6 for $4.95. Then 5 for $4.95. Then 4. Then the price of the blisters started to climb... Last I recall from the "old days" was 2 figures for $7.95. And that seemed outrageous!

I still have my Kev Adams-sculpted Ork Raider army. Just about 100 old Ork boyz. With Warbuggies. On their "Badyear" tires!

Had countless RTB01 Beakies. Just recently traded/sold off a Squat army. Had a 25 model-strong Fimir army back in the day...

Or how about two-wound High Helms, Vimto Monks, or Lesser Goblin wizards? And Toughness "C" anyone?

Or Drastik Plastik models? Psychostyrene Dwarves? I do miss the Chaos Dwarf Tenderizer and Swivel guns. GW missed a turn when they went down the big hat path on the Chaos Dwarfs.

Going outside of GW, we could go down back to Battledroids. 'Course, I'm not such a grognard I can claim to have bought Tactics II when it first came out, but I did have a copy and spent one great semester in HS taking an independent study computer science class trying to port Tactics II into a PC. Never did get that to work...

Yeah... It's a different era now, that's for sure! I do remember a while back, however, reading an little blurb in WD (I seem to recall it was around when they first came out with plastic horses) about how GW was planning on making all their models out of plastic with only character models in metal... We kinda laughed about that back in the day since the old plastics were so piss poor.

Vale,

JohnS

Any chance o getting some of you gents to chime in on a post I just made?

[ http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/259737.page ]

cygnnus wrote:

Now what about Elton Yang?!?

Ah, misinterpretations of Iron Fist...

Vale,

JohnS

Oh god................ Yeah, back even before the website that became a porn site, there was the individual who 'misunderstood' our egroup mail list. For him, Fist was the operative word.................

Trust us old 'uns! Way back when WD covered other company's ranges,it was a magazine worth reading!
Figures were cheap and cheerful.I've still got a good force of dark elves built around Menil Manhides Dark Elves,a lot
better than the latest version.
When you ordered by post(no net back then)you got a personal reply from the head honchos who packed your
orders!
Then there was [see forum posting rules] and Thrud the Barbarian comic strips.
Back then GW were a great company,they really were!
Then they went inhouse and that is when the rot set in...