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so their pieces of paper with stat lines had a fancy cover. Doesn't change my point.

I guess it's a bit old, but the new DE codex is supposed to be out soonish, and it's not like they never had one :s

EDIT: And by "a bit old" i mean pretty damn old It will definitely be good to see an update after near 10 years of essentially the same rules...

Demoniac wrote:

ZoomDakkaDakka wrote:Ad Mech I guess. I don't like the idea of Slann, it just seems odd, and no offense, but it seems like you just wanted it yourself, so tacked it onto the poll without considering how fitting it would be for the existing fluff.
Though that's just me...

The slann/lizardmen would make some sense for current fluff, but (so far) only because of the Necrons codex. They have links to the old ones and Chaos rather like Eldar, and with the big focus on the C'tans' hate for all things "old one" related, I think it would be really cool to see some kind of Lizardmen/Slann introduction in 40k.

That said, I may be alone in that

No you're not!

I'd rather see Hrud than Slaan.

No love for the Exodites? No one wants space elves riding with healthy tans riding dinosaurs? No? Alright.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Legion wrote:All of those need a 'dex, but not as much as the game doesn't need any more 'dexes.

I agree with this.

GW already can't upgrade all the existing armies once a generation. We really don't need more new army codexes clogging up the release schedule.

Although a one-time pdf or article in WD would be cool. (But won't happen)

KamikazeCanuck wrote:No love for the Exodites? No one wants space elves riding with healthy tans riding dinosaurs? No? Alright.

They are rumoured to get rules in the next FW Imperial Armour book about Eldar. Together with new models. Is that good enough?

BTW traitor guard has FW rules, AdMech will get some FW rules in the long run.

Fan-made Codices:
Kodex Kroot: http://z8.invisionfree.com/KompletelyKroot/ (5th edition)
Codex Arbites http://hem.spray.se/kendoka2/arbites/necromunda_aa.htm (3rd edition)
Codex Exodites: http://www.agisn.de/html/codex_exodites.html (3rd edition)
Codex genestealer Cult (available at a yahoo group, 5th edition)

Kroothawk wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:No love for the Exodites? No one wants space elves riding with healthy tans riding dinosaurs? No? Alright.

They are rumoured to get rules in the next FW Imperial Armour book about Eldar. Together with new models. Is that good enough?

BTW traitor guard has FW rules, AdMech will get some FW rules in the long run.

Fan-made Codices:
Kodex Kroot: http://z8.invisionfree.com/KompletelyKroot/ (5th edition)
Codex Arbites http://hem.spray.se/kendoka2/arbites/necromunda_aa.htm (3rd edition)
Codex Exodites: http://www.agisn.de/html/codex_exodites.html (3rd edition)
Codex genestealer Cult (available at a yahoo group, 5th edition)

Yes that's good enough for me. If it happens. Honestly, Exodites would be my last choice don't really care for the pointy-ears. I've noticed there doesn't actually seem to be a lot of Eldar fans on Dakka.


But no, Fandexes are not good enough for me.

Demoniac wrote:

ZoomDakkaDakka wrote:Ad Mech I guess. I don't like the idea of Slann, it just seems odd, and no offense, but it seems like you just wanted it yourself, so tacked it onto the poll without considering how fitting it would be for the existing fluff.
Though that's just me...

The slann/lizardmen would make some sense for current fluff, but (so far) only because of the Necrons codex. They have links to the old ones and Chaos rather like Eldar, and with the big focus on the C'tans' hate for all things "old one" related, I think it would be really cool to see some kind of Lizardmen/Slann introduction in 40k.

That said, I may be alone in that

The Slann/Old Ones would make sense...if they weren't all dead.

Their race died out about the same time the Necrons went into hibernation, mostly due to that whole Enslaver infestation.


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Kroothawk wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:No love for the Exodites? No one wants space elves riding with healthy tans riding dinosaurs? No? Alright.

They are rumoured to get rules in the next FW Imperial Armour book about Eldar. Together with new models. Is that good enough?

BTW traitor guard has FW rules, AdMech will get some FW rules in the long run.

As an aside, I have to debunk this.

The next FW Imperial Armour book is slated to be a continuation of the campaign begun in Kastorel-Novem. The Ork Waagh! wasn't stopped, and it's supposed to be stepping up its game after the failed Imperial offensive.

However, Eldar are supposed to be making an appearance as a kind of 'prod' to the Orks assaulting a Forge World and its Mechanicus defenders, alongside of the Raven Guard and Elysians stepping up their game to go after the Eldar behind the Orks.

Kanluwen wrote:

Demoniac wrote:

ZoomDakkaDakka wrote:Ad Mech I guess. I don't like the idea of Slann, it just seems odd, and no offense, but it seems like you just wanted it yourself, so tacked it onto the poll without considering how fitting it would be for the existing fluff.
Though that's just me...

The slann/lizardmen would make some sense for current fluff, but (so far) only because of the Necrons codex. They have links to the old ones and Chaos rather like Eldar, and with the big focus on the C'tans' hate for all things "old one" related, I think it would be really cool to see some kind of Lizardmen/Slann introduction in 40k.

That said, I may be alone in that

The Slann/Old Ones would make sense...if they weren't all dead.

Their race died out about the same time the Necrons went into hibernation, mostly due to that whole Enslaver infestation.

Or did they!?

They did.

Otherwise, you'd still see them around considering their empire stretched across the entire galaxy and was partially responsible for the Eldar's Webway.

Ordo Xenos closely followed by adeptus mechanicus I say.

Kanluwen wrote:They did.

Otherwise, you'd still see them around considering their empire stretched across the entire galaxy and was partially responsible for the Eldar's Webway.

Yes well The Tau have been around for the last 6,000 years (and the Kroot longer) but they only just got mentioned now. It's a big galaxy that has room for retconning.

Tau were isolated by a Warp storm, supposedly generated by one of the last of the Old Ones/Eldar.

And 6000 years is "relatively recent" in the grand scheme of things. That's what makes the Tau's ascendant technology so impressive. They're not stagnant like the Imperium or the Eldar. They're constantly advancing.

I agree, no new dexes; GW can't keep up with the current races, we don't need even more that will only be updates once every 10 years...

It's a tough choice. I agree with some of the posters above (I haven't read them all), the Arbites and Demuirg would be rather small codex's on their own. They would be great additions to the (ab)human ranks, though.
I think the Ordo Xenos needs one, but I also think the inquisition should have one codex that holds options for the different branches. With plenty of fluff for the listed Ordos and fluff enough to support smaller Ordos for gamers to make up.

I'd really like a codex for the Mechanicus, too! But I haven't seen any signs of GW working on ANY of the extra human forces. It seems like they could pump something like that out. Hire a few extra folks, tournament winners perhaps, and put them to the task. Something like a contracting job. Meh, not everyone likes doing business like that. I still want all the codexs!

I voted for the Exodites because the eldar have codex for the Dark Eldar and the Craft World Eldar, as well as older codex's that pertain to Eldar in general. So why not the Exodites? or the Harlequin, for that matter. They would probably be small as an individual codex (much like the abhumans above), but they deserve some more attention, and more than one unit type! They don't even have a Solitaire as it is. But I think the Exodits would have enough options and different units to fill up a whole codex: Examples of different planetary adaptations instead of aspect specific units; Bestiaries that represent planets that support different kinds of life better. And some Farseer options! Those are the ones that lead the exodites away from the fall after all... right?

Mn, I agree. Combine the Ordo Hereticus, Ordo Malleus, and Ordo Xenos into one Codex: Inquisitio or some kind of supplement. The codex could include up to the following from Space Marines (including BA, BT, DA, GK, SM, and SW), Imperial Guard, and Sisters of Battle, but only one of these armies at a time.

1 HQ choice (mandatory if you include the other choices, can't be a special character)
0-1 Elites choices
1-3 Troops choices (one mandatory along with the HQ choice)
0-1 Fast Attack choices
0-1 Heavy Support choices

And then expand the Ordos to have some more units based off of the various kinds of acolytes, such as assassination squads which can be kitted out as snipers or close combat experts for example.


That would be the IDEAL way to do it, but I don't expect it to actually be done that way.

Honestly what would be truly cool would be a simple Xenos codex. As an addon to Tau. Being that they have added and are willing to add different races to their collective it would add some nice visual flair and give the modelers a chance to make a handful of cool/wacky units.

And besides wouldn't it be cool to take a tau army with 10 different races in it armed with Tau-ish tech?

I like the ordos seperate. They are competing interests. It'll be pretty crowded with GK and SoB and who knows what else.

FacelessMage wrote:Honestly what would be truly cool would be a simple Xenos codex. As an addon to Tau. Being that they have added and are willing to add different races to their collective it would add some nice visual flair and give the modelers a chance to make a handful of cool/wacky units.

And besides wouldn't it be cool to take a tau army with 10 different races in it armed with Tau-ish tech?

Dogs of War for 40k? No thanks.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I like the ordos seperate. They are competing interests. It'll be pretty crowded with GK and SoB and who knows what else.

You must not read many of my posts if you think I'd want GK and SoB (in particular this one) to be mixed in with the Inquisition in any way whatsoever

Especially considering I said that they would take allies from the GK / SoB codices in that post.

Kanluwen wrote:Tau were isolated by a Warp storm, supposedly generated by one of the last of the Old Ones/Eldar.

And 6000 years is "relatively recent" in the grand scheme of things. That's what makes the Tau's ascendant technology so impressive. They're not stagnant like the Imperium or the Eldar. They're constantly advancing.

The main reason I would prefer the Slann worked in there instead of an entirely new race is becasue the Tau have filled the "significant but isolated problem" niche. All the other races have reasons to be everywhere but during the big Summer campaigns they need to stretch reasoning sometimes for ways to get the Tau in there. It's easier to work something into the story how The Old Ones original creation are still kicking but doing something in the background of the galaxy behind the scenes. Kinda like the Necrons were there for a while.

The Slann are going to be absolutely useless in terms of an army. They're supposed to be, in terms of populations, MAYBE double digits as remnants.

And you want to make an army out of that?

Melissia wrote:
And then expand the Ordos to have some more units based off of the various kinds of acolytes, such as assassination squads which can be kitted out as snipers or close combat experts for example.

That's pretty much exactly the kind of army I'd like to field, and (more specifically for the WH/Ordo Hereticus), the range of/types of acolytes available for the inquisitors to take. I'd like to see them with some real interesting wargear/weapons too, the only thing I felt about both the Witch Hunters and Daemonhunters was that there weren't nearly as many 'unique' weapons (DH slightly less so).

Kanluwen wrote:The Slann are going to be absolutely useless in terms of an army. They're supposed to be, in terms of populations, MAYBE double digits as remnants.

And you want to make an army out of that?

Yes. Yes I do Not *just* slann though; the Slann AND what remain of the Lizardmen/whatever-they-evolved-into

Kanluwen wrote:The Slann are going to be absolutely useless in terms of an army. They're supposed to be, in terms of populations, MAYBE double digits as remnants.

And you want to make an army out of that?

This. Slann are scraping the bottom of the barrel fluff-wise

ugh, use your imagination people!

KamikazeCanuck wrote:ugh, use your imagination people!

OMG IMAGINATION!

THERE SHOULD BE A GIANT SQUID ARMY, FROM THE WORLD CRUSTACADONACUS, AND THEY ALL FIRE LAZORS FORM THEIR TENTACLES, AND THE ENTIRE ARMY IS MADE UP OF MONSTROUS CREATURES AND WALKING FISH! AND BY WALKING FISH I MEAN FISH WITH TWO LEGS SITKCING OUT THE SIDE! AND THE SQUIDS CAN FLY BY SPINNING REALLY FAST, AND THEY'RE ALL PSYKERS!

^ That... sounds... awesome!

I'm still all for a Slann/Lizardmen codex, small numbers or no, I feel like it would be an interesting development for the fluff

If they were going to bring out Demuirg models, theyd be best as more auxiliaries for the Tau (as thats what they are in the fluff). Not as a standalone race.

I would like to see the Ordo Xenos. My friend who plays the Sisters of Battle/Witch Hunters ect ect tells me about the fluff behind his dex's and I'd like to see more of it on the table top in the form of Ordo Xenos.