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Our favourite GW spokesperson Jervis Johnson said in Standard Bearer *Shudders* that they wont be introducing any new armies until all of the current ones are updated and most likely will not be removing any races. I believe it was WD 363.

I'd love to see a Dwaven Ad-mech in power armour type army, but GW seems to be sending the Dwarves to the Tau.

So, right now I want GW to consolidate some codices before a new one is released.

After that? Dwarves, then I could deal with the Ad-mech getting the love, but only if the Imperium has been trimmed back first.(Either army coul be done in an industrial pseudo-steampunk style.)

Exodites are right up there, too. I'd like for GW to give itself the excuse to do a craftworld codex again.

Why do people vote that Adeptus Mechanicus needs a codex? It's not an army in itself, it's a support to imperial armies.
The Omnissiah would never go into war by itself.

Cor Angars wrote:Why do people vote that Adeptus Mechanicus needs a codex? It's not an army in itself, it's a support to imperial armies.
The Omnissiah would never go into war by itself.

The mechanicum is fully capable of starting their own wars, but agreed to an alliance with the Imperium.
If Inquisition has got a codex or two ( yet, but split from GK and SoB could happen) , the Ad Mech as selfsupporting independent body should have theirs without a doubt.

Personally i think in the next edition they should let salamanders have their own codex

Or they could just go generic ala GURPS. Base stateline for X points and adding onto stats/armor/weapons/USRs costs points.

Cor Angars wrote:Why do people vote that Adeptus Mechanicus needs a codex? It's not an army in itself, it's a support to imperial armies.
The Omnissiah would never go into war by itself.

To defend Forge Worlds and AdMech property for a start. They have a full army, and it is cool, too.

Melissia wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:ugh, use your imagination people!

OMG IMAGINATION!

THERE SHOULD BE A GIANT SQUID ARMY, FROM THE WORLD CRUSTACADONACUS, AND THEY ALL FIRE LAZORS FORM THEIR TENTACLES, AND THE ENTIRE ARMY IS MADE UP OF MONSTROUS CREATURES AND WALKING FISH! AND BY WALKING FISH I MEAN FISH WITH TWO LEGS SITKCING OUT THE SIDE! AND THE SQUIDS CAN FLY BY SPINNING REALLY FAST, AND THEY'RE ALL PSYKERS!

meh, its been done.

cogs for the cog god
servitors for the servitor god
plasma for the plasma god
praise the omnissah

Ya, its not even close. People want cyborg armies of doom! Long live the Omnissiah!

I want all of these :*(

Adeptus Mechanicus , they are E.P.I.C

The PIRATE Eldar. That would be awesome.

uh, you mean Dark Eldar?

Adeptus Mechanicus for me especailly after reading Titanicus

sooo many cool possibilities for new models from both GW and Forge World - Imperial Armour books et etc

Like the others two but Am would be awesome.

Also love a proper Codex for the Premier Regiments of the Imperial Guard - Tallarn, Catachan, Tanith, Vallahan etc etc so we can truely represent them

I don't want any if this "steampunk" thrown in the mix if they made an AdMech army... They are as creepy and as industrial as it comes IMO, not old-school (as in victorian era old-school) mechanical looking with purty wood/gold/brass everywhere.

It's too dark for steampunk.

Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:cogs for the cog god
servitors for the servitor god
plasma for the plasma god ( gets hot! blam! no more god! )
praise the omnissah

voted for adeptus mechanicus, although it would be cool to have sort of a book like babylon 5 where several races would unite to fight a given threat (drooling of thinking of the possible conversions)

Cor Angars wrote:Why do people vote that Adeptus Mechanicus needs a codex? It's not an army in itself, it's a support to imperial armies.
The Omnissiah would never go into war by itself.

the Ad Mech is ALWAYS getting into fights.

Don't tell me you have never heard of the Titan Legions? it isn't just Titans. Legions of Skittarii(Genetically altered Human warriors. The only thing more vicious then a Battle involving Space Marines is one involving these guys), Techguard(Humans just undergoing a few Bionic enhancments. Initiates into the Machine Cult), Knight battle walkers(Mini titans)........

it sends out Explorator missions after Archeotech, STCs.

they defend the Forge Worlds.


Quite often Impierial Guard troops are fighting alongside the Ad Mech, but they are more then capable of fighting all by themselves.

It seems like all of these has some potential

Absolutely none of them do. They're all either such small numbers that they make the Space Marines look like they've got the numbers of the Chinese military or they're forces that wouldn't ever engage in combat by themselves.

Except for the Ad Mech of course

Adeptus Mechanicus I really still say fall under the "don't belong" category. They're more about adding their numbers to Guard forces.

really who doesn't want to play as space dwarves!

they have the most justification of being their own codex because at least have huge armies in the fluff.

Deathwatch have small commando units.

Arbites are really just Stormtroopers with Shotguns

others are either non-existant OR don't have enough fluff written about them to justify a codex.


Mechanicus has more then enough justification.

yeah but still they did have a codex. I wonder if anyone still possess this wonderous item?

Grey Templar wrote:they have the most justification of being their own codex because at least have huge armies in the fluff.

Deathwatch have small commando units.

Arbites are really just Stormtroopers with Shotguns

others are either non-existant OR don't have enough fluff written about them to justify a codex.


Mechanicus has more then enough justification.

Their "huge armies" really amount to nothing more than three things:
1) Legions of Skitarii(which are equivalent to Guardsmen with tech enhancements), with servitors in large numbers and huge quantities of special weapons alongside of whatever factory worker levy that decides to come with them to defend their planet.
2) Experimental weapons of the Ordinatus(which how the hell are you going to do that? Random stats and random effectiveness? Hooray! That's GENIUS!)
3) Titan Legions, supported by Guard armour/infantry regiments to mop up what's left.

Well, a Deathwatch and a Adeptus Arbites codex could be justified.

The old BA codex and Catachan codex were tiny.

But given the current GW policy, Catachan now part of IG codex, I'd say there's no need for a codex for neither as Deathwatch can easily be incorporated in the C:SM and Arbites in the C:IG.

Even though these two codices can be incorporated into lager codices I don't think the same can be applied to an Adeptus Mechanicus codex.


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Kanluwen wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:they have the most justification of being their own codex because at least have huge armies in the fluff.

Deathwatch have small commando units.

Arbites are really just Stormtroopers with Shotguns

others are either non-existant OR don't have enough fluff written about them to justify a codex.


Mechanicus has more then enough justification.

Their "huge armies" really amount to nothing more than three things:
1) Legions of Skitarii(which are equivalent to Guardsmen with tech enhancements), with servitors in large numbers and huge quantities of special weapons alongside of whatever factory worker levy that decides to come with them to defend their planet.
2) Experimental weapons of the Ordinatus(which how the hell are you going to do that? Random stats and random effectiveness? Hooray! That's GENIUS!)
3) Titan Legions, supported by Guard armour/infantry regiments to mop up what's left.

Did you happen to read any of the home made Mechanicus codex?
Reducing the mechanicus fighting force to just 3 points its an understatement to say the least.

And Skitarii would probably be closer to space marine Neophytes than guardsmen.

Skittarii are the Equivilant of marines.

they would have poorer saves, BUT enhanced Str and T. they are primarily geared for CC, but shooty versions do exist. prehaps 2 wounds instead of T5 or better.

the Skittarii would be a highly customisable platform, able to be either shooty or CC.

a Small elite force, but with a much more nitty gritty feel then SMs have.

Orky Space marines if you will.

Skittarii are nowhere near being equivalent to Marines.

The next step up, Centurions I think they were called, might be but I severely doubt it.

Skittarii, from every description so far, put them at about on par with Stormtroopers in terms of equipment/training--but with things like combat stimms, bionics, etc that make them more effective in CC.


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Oh, and as a rule I don't read fandexes. They're 9/10 times absolute spank that makes C.S. Goto look like Shakespeare.

I think fan-dexes give a wonderful insight to the potential of a force, but I wouldn't bring them up in an argument about official codexes... just because they aren't official.

I also agree that the Skittarii (from what I've read/heard) aren't on the same level as the marines, but do seem to be better than regular human rank and file. The tech-upgrades would be enough to do that, but they also get drugs and things to boost performance, like something out of THX 1138.

I think the Inquisition should be in one large codex, as it is one organization with different branches. They have different focuses and specialties, even different modes of operation, but their all work toward the same goal... eliminating enemies of the Emperor... or was it the Imperium?

THere have been small codexes for chapters of the marines, so why not small dexes for other races/branches of the human military force?

And, as for the Admech army, who do you think is making the hardware for the Impirium? Trust me, those Admechs have plenty of gear to fight with. I think the fluff is they don't want to risk losing too much of it so they let the rest of humanity do most of the dirty work.