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During a tournament, no.

After the tournament, first round is on me.

At your home, knock yourself out.

At my home, a responisble amount because your drunk ass isn't crashing at my place or driving home.

I'm on the boat of drinking is fine (I regularly do it at events that allow it) but that sloshy isn't. Sloshy annoys the hell out of me in the wrong environment and it can make others uncomfortable.

Sidenote I don't like the options cause it doesn't have a few drinks is cool but sloshy is stupid options

I figured that it was implied in the second option, Hulk. I echo your sentiments exactly.

Monster rain is correct. I was trying to be informal (as not to start any flames) but sloshy is stupid is implied in the secon option. (If MODs want to add that to clairify please do).

There is a time and a place.

Last month's 'Ard Boyz - No. too many kids, inside a store.

WaaaghPaca a few months back. Oh yeah. If you'd stick your head out the gaming room, you could see the bartenders. Being Wisconsin it's encouraged to drink, people were dropping pints down before dice started to roll at 9am. That being said I waited until after first round to start, and I bought every opponent a drink who wanted one expcet the last round on sunday. I had to to drive.

Being drunk & being annoying two separate items. I think we can all agree that people at tournaments need to act in the appropriate manner.

That being said as long as you are acting appropriatly, feel free to drink as much as you want.

I think what a lot of people aren't getting is that some people, simply being around a visibly intoxicated person is somewhat annoying.

I say visibly intoxicated because usually for a person to really tell that you're drunk, you have to be doing something to let them know.

Warhammer gets infinitely more fun with booze involved.....

As long as your not one of "those drunk guys" its usually just find....

Monster, we're in violent agreement (Believe it or not). The point is that I think some people will see a fella drinking, and ASSUME he's getting drunk, and that's to be avoided ...

Getting sloshy IS a douchey thing to do at a tournament, just like ... being a douche, or being a douche on a forum, or whatever really. Jerk is jerk, inconsiderate is inconsiderate. Hence, again, cooler post title would be "is it cool to be uncool at a tournament?" I think we all kinda agree that getting super uncool levels of drunk is ... uncool.

The tautological poll is tautological!

Drinking DURING the game, at a tourney, it's a bit much...

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After, sure!

I always have a few beers while playing 40K. i thought it was required, how else am I going to deal with casualties and not break down in tears.

Grimgob wrote:I think I can relate it to the simpsons. the episode Homer gets trashed at his own party and makes a complete jerk out of him self (looking down the revs wifes blouse) but the next day he remembers him self in a top hat drinking martinis being witty. ur perception of yourself drunk is not always other peoples perception of your self. It seams if you get trashed at a tourny you care about how your games go but have no consideration for how the other guys game goes.

This is true for the most part, though generally, I only don't remember being an jerk when I don't remember ANYTHING, so I can usually tell by virtue of negative acknowledgment. Little awkward when I black out and I'm not though, I get lots of laughs from people as I'm apologizing for stuff I didn't end up doing.

Honestly though, like Dash, when I drink I usually pull the competitive stick from my ass. It's usually better for everyone if I am at least half past buzzed when I play.

Whatever floats your boat. Have a drink, I might do the same.

Of course, judgment centers of the brain are affected way before motor skills and speech centers. You'll make mistakes while drinking way before the effects of said alcohol are noticeable in other areas.

Didn't there use to be a guy who showed up every year at the Baltimore GT, would get sloshed, and had to be ambulanced out?

@Dash It's players like those that have made me stop playing. Well, that and the plethora of gimmick armies out there. The two seem to go hand in hand.

I will admit last friendly game I played in my mates garage did have a player that was rather functional until the end. He was playing orks so it was kind of fitting... He quit. Granted it was 1 AM, and he'd been drinking since 11 , and his Warboss just got a jolly rogering from my Ironclad... Oh, and when I say 11 I mean A.M.

IMO, one or two is fine provided they are kept well clear of the miniatures, I can't say I'm keen on having my paintwork/models chipped by beer bottles, not to mention having a model stinking of beer :/. People who can't stand properly are best kept away from expensive models that have taken time to paint up etc.

I would agree that drinking at sanctioned tournaments unless one is an alcoholic an can hide it well should probably be avoided. Other than a couple beers or so.


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MVBrandt wrote:Monster, we're in violent agreement (Believe it or not). The point is that I think some people will see a fella drinking, and ASSUME he's getting drunk, and that's to be avoided ...

Getting sloshy IS a douchey thing to do at a tournament, just like ... being a douche, or being a douche on a forum, or whatever really. Jerk is jerk, inconsiderate is inconsiderate. Hence, again, cooler post title would be "is it cool to be uncool at a tournament?" I think we all kinda agree that getting super uncool levels of drunk is ... uncool.

The tautological poll is tautological!

Speaking as someone who happily drinks before, during, and after games, I have to disagree. It's not just about being a douche, as that is self-evident.

I think there's a point to be legitimately made here about drunkenness in particular, and how it can impact events and opponents. I think it's kind of timely, as well, what with bigger events now having drinking a bit more emphasized or prominent (like with the 40k-themed cocktails at Adepticon the last couple of years, etc.).

Probably 90%+ of drinking gamers have their drinking under control and appropriate, but the very nature of the activity is such that it impairs our own ability to judge when we are no longer within acceptable boundaries of behavior. Even if I am friendly and relaxed, it can be less than fun for my opponent if I am unfocused, distracted or silly, or particularly loud, or whatever. Some folks are more or less accepting and happy with this, which is important to bear in mind when I'm at a public event, and my opponent is paired against me by the structure and doesn't really have the choice to wait until I'm sober, or the option to just not play against me (at least not without negative repercussions for me or him).

There's also the factor of the occasional guy using a big event as kind of an excuse to cut loose and get genuinely trashed, which can be a real problem. IIRC one of the guys at the ETC last year or the year before was drunk enough that he actually took a header through a table, smashing his own and his opponent's armies! While that kind of thing is certainly very rare, it's the kind of thing we should be aware of and look out for if one of our gaming buddies really seems to be significantly impaired.

Again, while I think the vast majority of guys are no problem, the nature of drinking means it's difficult for me to judge if and when I'm starting to cross the line. So it's worth a friendly reminder that we should probably err on the side of caution before and during game rounds.

IIRC every single GT tournament in my area (Texas) has a bar at the venue.... Mostly its beer and wine (who the feth drinks wine at these things) and one or two has the hard stuff like vodka and redbull and other spirits...

I have yet to encounter a single problem with this (belligerence), and if anything its great for sportsmanship votes when you buy your opponent a beer after the game (assuming they drink).

I hope you dont all think I'm a prude. I drink (I love brown ales and Irish whisky), I just dont like to hang around people who are visibly drunk @ inapropriate times. If you get that way Its not always easy to comunicate with that person, which in this game of reaching a social middle ground of understanding between each other would make me have a bad time.

Mannahnin wrote:Probably 90%+ of drinking gamers have their drinking under control and appropriate, but the very nature of the activity is such that it impairs our own ability to judge when we are no longer within acceptable boundaries of behavior. Even if I am friendly and relaxed, it can be less than fun for my opponent if I am unfocused, distracted or silly, or particularly loud, or whatever. Some folks are more or less accepting and happy with this, which is important to bear in mind when I'm at a public event, and my opponent is paired against me by the structure and doesn't really have the choice to wait until I'm sober, or the option to just not play against me (at least not without negative repercussions for me or him).

I'm going to use you as an example, Mannahnin; I trust you won't mind.

At Adepticon this year, on Saturday night (post-Team Tournament), I was hanging out with Yakface, Mannahnin, and Lorek. Mannahnin was 2-and-a-half sheets to the wind, the rest of us were mildly buzzed, and we were having a great time just talking. Absolutely the right time and place.

Had I instead been playing a tournament game against Mannahnin in exactly that same condition, I would have been annoyed.

No problem, Janthkin.

I had had a long day, was definitely in a mood to cut loose a bit at the end of the Team event, and (in part thanks to friends in Da Boyz being nearby) had a few shots during the award ceremony. I definitely got more drunk than usual even for after hours that night, and would never want to be nearly that intoxicated during a game. Usually 1-2 beers is the max I want while trying to play a competitive game.

ShivanAngel wrote:IIRC every single GT tournament in my area (Texas) has a bar at the venue.... Mostly its beer and wine (who the feth drinks wine at these things) and one or two has the hard stuff like vodka and redbull and other spirits...

I know a few guys in the Northeast who prefer wine and mixed drinks to beer. One of the Warmongers, in NYC, is famous for drunkenness with a wine bottle in hand on Saturday night at big events. One of the other Warmongers has an awesome Romanian wife, and regularly brings Romanian moonshine (Tsuica) to events. I, inspired, started bringing my father-in-law's Bulgarian homebrew, Rakia, to events.

Especially at the Independent events in the East, drinking is definitely a side-event. My WHFB club, the Lost Legion, and the 'mongers had a Friday night club challenge at one event, where five of us on each side lined up on five adjacent tables. We did a line chug to start, with the team that won automatically winning first turn (that was us). Then before each of your own player turns you had to toast your opponent and have a drink. If you did, you got a re-roll during that game turn. If you forgot, your opponent got one. So I'm definitely on the pro-drinking side. That said, I also have a couple of times found myself a little tipsier than I wanted to be, say in game three on Saturday, and I realize that I should take care when it comes to both my ability to play and to not being at risk of spilling a beer on a table or anything.

Thank you. My point exactly Janthkin. a beer or four is great during games (multiple games if ur gunna drink four) as long as ur cool. I've ran into self proclaimed drunk beligerent persons at GTs before and it was awkward.

I tourneys I don't think there should be any drinking...but friendly games or playing at my/a friend's house is ok

I'd rather avoid the "drunken a-hole" situation altogether and have booze not allowed


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kronk wrote:During a tournament, no.

After the tournament, first round is on me.

At your home, knock yourself out.

At my home, a responisble amount because your drunk ass isn't crashing at my place or driving home.

^^^AGREED

I feel drinking is ok at GTs and I echo that it should be in moderation.

Me personally would not drink during games because I would want to not allow any lapse decisions into my game.

After games are done then yes. Hit it hard. Work hard, Play hard

I don't drink. Let me say that right off. Also I don't care if you drink. However,I don't like the smell of most types of liquor and I would be very put off if I had to play a person who smelled like liquor or whose breath smelled like liquor. Would I still play them? Yes. Would I enjoy it? No. If you want to have a drink do so on your own time and please be aware of the odors you drag in (either externally or internally). Yes, I know that some liquors don't have odors and as long as you can function normally then good for you. Just be aware that alcohol is like smoking in that the smells can stay with you even after your done drinking/smoking.
I suppose this could also go under the hygene rules.

Grimgob wrote:Thank you. My point exactly Janthkin. a beer or four is great during games (multiple games if ur gunna drink four) as long as ur cool. I've ran into self proclaimed drunk beligerent persons at GTs before and it was awkward.

You don't need to be drunk to be belligerent or a jerk, nor does drinking turn someone into one. I've got to agree with Mike and the others on that point. People who are being rude/uncooked/other at tournaments are going to be without booze. Try to divorce alcohol and behavior. If someone is a.jerk, they are going to be a jerk, booze or not.

You can't entirely divorce alcohol from behavior, Dash.

Yes, it's the behavior which is the objectionable part, but if someone's excessive use of alcohol makes them harder to play a game with, and makes them unaware of the fact that they're no longer enjoyable to interact with, then it's worth taking a look at the drinking. If I have 1-2 beers during a game, I'm fine. If I have more, I'm going to start getting sloppy. It's a matter of knowing my limits, but of course, the more I drink the less aware I am.

It's mostly just a question of responsibility and moderation, really. The folks who are intolerant of drinking at all, and the problem drunks, are really the edge cases.

This thread isnt about being a jerk. Its about how people feel about their opponant drinking or level of drinking thats OK with you at Tournys (a lot of people seam to have an opinion on the subject). If you think its ok and ur opponant dosnt, in a social game is it socialy acceptable? On a side note; If it ruins the other persons game and you dont care you are being a jerk. They have every right to have as fun a time for their money as you do.

Here's to alcohol. The cause of, and solution too, all of life's problems.

A beer or 2 during the day is OK...unless your a cheap (and bad) drunk. In the evenings after an event, have a blast (don't be stupid and get an out of State DUI).