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kronkle wrote:I love your style. what tool do you use the most when working with greenstuff? I have a nurgle army i'm working on as well. check it out if you get a sec.

Kronkle! Your marines are beautiful (in only a way that a fellow nurgling could understand ) How do you do your off-white?

The tool that I use most is the trusty kebab stick, found in packs of 40 for $1.50 at any large supermarket:

Ye old trusty eye poking stick


@Malika: Yes, I've tried ebay and the like, but so many people think like me, it ends up costing the same pretty much to just buy several of them from GW and get the free shipping over $30.

The lord on palanquin will be more biomechanical, in fact, I've already started him, and the first thing that sets him apart is that he's an actual marine!

And as for intestines... well that's a given No nurgle warrior is complete if he doesnt appear on the fields of battle without the ability to lasso anyone anytime he pleases. It would only displease papa nurgle. But yes, I think I'll stick with the metal Juggers, maybe 1 or 2 plastic ones, as I prefer the sculpt over the plastic one, and there's less khorny gak to remove from it.

-Nikolakhs

Hmm, I don't know how your sculpting skills are and/or how much time you have, but how about scratchbuilding the wings? Use small bits of plastic card and greenstuff to make decaying biomechanical wings.

By the way, what colour will you be painting the visors of the marines? In the official scheme from FW they were red. However, the armor in those pictures is also more yellowish, making the red visors a nice contrast. In your case the armour is already kind of rust/red/pink like, red might not work that well, will you deviate and go for blue?

As a devout imperial servant, I am disgusted at your heresy! As a gamer... that is one of the most amazing armies I have ever seen. Well done.

Ultimate 40k wrote:As a devout imperial servant, I am disgusted at your heresy! As a gamer... that is one of the most amazing armies I have ever seen. Well done.

Thank you! I may have to spare some of your imperial lackeys for your compliment, but be rest assured, papa nurgle will get to them one way or the other

Malika2 wrote:Hmm, I don't know how your sculpting skills are and/or how much time you have, but how about scratchbuilding the wings? Use small bits of plastic card and greenstuff to make decaying biomechanical wings.

By the way, what colour will you be painting the visors of the marines? In the official scheme from FW they were red. However, the armor in those pictures is also more yellowish, making the red visors a nice contrast. In your case the armour is already kind of rust/red/pink like, red might not work that well, will you deviate and go for blue?

Scratchbuilding ...the ...wings... I um... really really don't want to do that hahaha, that is just sooooo much more work than I'd care to do at the moment. My opinion on this may change, but after putting in more than 6 hours per terminator in conversion and painting, I really really really don't want to repeat the same process for a unit of raptors. In fact my opinion will probably switch on this as time goes by, but I won't get too distracted building raptors, chosen, possessed, bikers, or any lords over the next several months.

First and foremost I must finish my tourney army and the display board, that's priority #1. I will be finishing my Hell Talon that I started 6 months ago, I will be painting up 2 Dreadclaws that will arrive in a week or 2, and I hope that that'll be the extent of my distractions for the time being. If I can find a cheap metal jugger online or locally, I'll buy it and play around slowly, but I won't be making a full unit for a while.

The visors! I will be making the visors blue, yes. Just like the rest of the lenses in my army, I much prefer the blue over red, and plus, I can use blue for headlights, gems, buttons, eyes, etc. , where the red can't be used everywhere. With the amount of work that goes into these guys, any way I can save myself some time really helps.

-Nikolakhs

In February I bought a Hell Talon off of a seller on ebay that was getting rid of his entire collection, and boy did I get a good deal on this model. I decided that this guy wouldn't fit in with anything I had at the moment, and that I wanted something special and one of a kind. Low and behold, so many months later, I have started painting this beastie, and boy do I have an interesting ride ahead.

This guy is supposed to embody daemonic possession. The trim is nowhere near being done yet, in the end it will looked like cracked marble. He is supposed to come off as serpentine, whilst at the same time being bound tight within the confines of the Hell Talon by a spiked cage. At the same time, some of his scales have fallen off leaving a bloody chunk under them. This effect needs a little more work on my part, but I'll figure it out as I go. Everything on this plane has been done by hand, including basecoats and every single one of those scales. Like I said, I have a long ride ahead.









That's all for now folks!

-Nikolakhs

I REALLY love your tanks! Superb painting & weathering!

Do you mind telling some tips about how you painted it?
Also what color/colors did you use for the basecolor of the rhinos/vindies?

Keep up the good work!

holy crap man. are you doing all those scale gradients with a brush?? damn that must be painstaking! strong work.

which off white are you referring to on marines or on my rhino?

I will be sure to pick up some eye poking sticks soon then! haha

nikolakhs wrote:

kronkle wrote:I love your style. what tool do you use the most when working with greenstuff? I have a nurgle army i'm working on as well. check it out if you get a sec.

Kronkle! Your marines are beautiful (in only a way that a fellow nurgling could understand ) How do you do your off-white?

The tool that I use most is the trusty kebab stick, found in packs of 40 for $1.50 at any large supermarket:

Ye old trusty eye poking stick


@Malika: Yes, I've tried ebay and the like, but so many people think like me, it ends up costing the same pretty much to just buy several of them from GW and get the free shipping over $30.

The lord on palanquin will be more biomechanical, in fact, I've already started him, and the first thing that sets him apart is that he's an actual marine!

And as for intestines... well that's a given No nurgle warrior is complete if he doesnt appear on the fields of battle without the ability to lasso anyone anytime he pleases. It would only displease papa nurgle. But yes, I think I'll stick with the metal Juggers, maybe 1 or 2 plastic ones, as I prefer the sculpt over the plastic one, and there's less khorny gak to remove from it.

-Nikolakhs

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oh btw, please post your process for the scales.

@Kronkle: Yes, everything is done with a brush. I know no other way, it's painstaking, sure, but I paint to relax, so it gives me more time to do just that. I was referring to the off white of your tanks, I think it looks great! Next time I paint the Hell Talon I'll take some pics of each step. At the moment though, I just picked up re-supplies for the painting on my Plague Marines, so I think I'm going to finish the 2 squads, and then get back to the Talon.

Anyways. To todays update! My Rhinos have had a bad steak of blowing to smithereens when they're hit, instead of just becoming wrecks. And I've lost a good total of plague marines in the process, which is weird. But anyways, i wanted to make some markers that are better than a random looking GW crater, or a piece of paper that represented dangerous terrain, so I went ahead and make some dangerous terrain that had the same footprint as a Rhino, and I have 2 more of these and 2 Vindicator sized bases waiting to be made into scrapyards as well. I want to build some flame columns to add to this as well, but only when the troops have been removed from it, because this is just big enough for 10 troops to balance on gently and fit on the base.

Rhino 1 Marker:



Rhino 2 Marker:



So that's the update for now! I finally found a new shade of blue to be able to get my paint scheme up and running again, the paint gremlins dried my old one out, so I should have some plague marines finished sometime soon to add to the army!

Stay tuned for more!

Also, does anyone know why the Dakka uploader turned my images sideways, and is there a way to undo this?

-Nikolakhs

Those are amazing. Great conversions and great paint jobs.

Did you use the salt + hairspray method for making the chipped armour on the tanks?

Good job on the vehicles, unlike most other Nurgle themed vehicles they don't look absurd.

I love that you are going with a color scheme other than the tradional greens. Yet they still have the feel of Papa Nurgle's love all over them.
The Hell Talon is amazing and can't wait to see your update on it.

Three Nurgles to you sir!

+1 for the "non green" paint scheme. Outstanding work all around. I like the bellringer sticking out of the Rhino a great deal.

LordofMuck wrote:Did you use the salt + hairspray method for making the chipped armour on the tanks?

Yes I did, and I learned quite quickly 2 things: don't buy scented hairspray, and the ratings go up to 4 apparently, and I used 4, which requires some real tough love to remove all the salt, but gets great results in my opinion.

Flaming Troll wrote:Good job on the vehicles, unlike most other Nurgle themed vehicles they don't look absurd.

Thank you, this is one of the main things I'm going for, a sort of minimalist Nurgle themed vehicle, I don't want anything that's absurd, the most absurd thing will be my Hell Talon, and even then...

Kult69 wrote:I love that you are going with a color scheme other than the tradional greens. Yet they still have the feel of Papa Nurgle's love all over them. The Hell Talon is amazing and can't wait to see your update on it. Three Nurgles to you sir!

Thanks I try and stay away from the traditional green because to be honest, I have difficulty staying interested while painting it, and it looks so bland when applied to a large amount of models. I wanted an army that would just *pop* when you saw it placed across the table from you, one where it shows just how much the player thinks of his stuff, and those 4 plague marines you just killed or that 1 Rhino that exploded was a week's worth of love and toil. I want an army that not only looks awesome and will get me painting points to boot but also shows just how much I value them.

schank23 wrote: Those are amazing. Great conversions and great paint jobs.

Thank you for the kind words

kestral wrote:+1 for the "non green" paint scheme. Outstanding work all around. I like the bellringer sticking out of the Rhino a great deal.

I love the pestigors and wish GW never stopped producing them. When I start to add mutants and traitor guard to accompany this army, I want to include as many pestigors as possible, I just love the models!

Thanks for looking!

Any ideas or suggestions for future additions and or mutations and or models? My imagination only goes so far...

-Nikolakhs

the off white on my tanks was just done with airbrushing on vallejo air, white. and then using some washes dirtied it up a bit

I like your Nurgle style and I don't like Nurgle in general so that's saying a lot... your Obliterator is very cool. I think it is the effect of those very well painted lenses combined with the three points of color, yellow, blue and red to make a strong color combo, rather than having a face as a focal point. Rather than just using Nurgle green.

If I were you I would think about using some liquid effects to make it look like joints are oozing. I know I could do a lot even with my hot glue gun to get some slimey, liquid effects (not too much though). Or even just joints that are oozing black oil. Possibly using glazes, water effects, and experiment with different textures, not just colors.

The paint peeling effect is very nice, the best I've seen for the paint actually peeling off, but the placement seems too random and even to me. I would expect the paint to be coming off more in more well used areas of the tank or more diseased blotches of it. Instead, is it just evenly pockmarked everywhere.

Cheers!

Just took a wander through your thread and I am blown away. Your patience and skill is outstanding and the Rhino at the beginning gave me the chills. You did so well it just oozed creepy, decay and death. Great work! That Hell Talon you have is insane too. I would never be able to do that. Kudos!

Meade wrote:If I were you I would think about using some liquid effects to make it look like joints are oozing. I know I could do a lot even with my hot glue gun to get some slimey, liquid effects (not too much though). Or even just joints that are oozing black oil. Possibly using glazes, water effects, and experiment with different textures, not just colors.

The paint peeling effect is very nice, the best I've seen for the paint actually peeling off, but the placement seems too random and even to me. I would expect the paint to be coming off more in more well used areas of the tank or more diseased blotches of it. Instead, is it just evenly pockmarked everywhere.

Cheers!

The liquid effects is a good one! I like it! I may do some variation of that once everything is painted and based. This army will be based on a muddy battlefield with some slushy snow here and there, as if the snow has just begun, so some oozing might fit right in with this whole army! As for the paint peeling, I agree with you 100%. When I do the salt method I can't really control it too well, but, I have to patch up the parts that were missed after all's been said and done with dark brown paint, so in the future, on all my vehicles, areas around doors and windows and hatches will be flakier. I like the haphazard pattern of the flakes, because just like in reality, you can't 100% predict the weakest spots in a coat of paint, and sometimes a seemingly random spot starts to rust.

bunnygurl wrote:Just took a wander through your thread and I am blown away. Your patience and skill is outstanding and the Rhino at the beginning gave me the chills. You did so well it just oozed creepy, decay and death. Great work! That Hell Talon you have is insane too. I would never be able to do that. Kudos!

Thank you! Patience is a new skill I learned! My wargaming budget was drastically reduced these last couple years, and this is the one way that I keep myself sane and busy, so everything I do, I try and get the most out of it. I'm most definitely not a production line guy for my own stuff, I can do production lines, but this army doesn't lend itself to that kind of style.

Thanks! I'll have an update for you soon, with forgeworldey goodness!

-Nikolakhs

nikolakhs wrote:The liquid effects is a good one! I like it! I may do some variation of that once everything is painted and based. This army will be based on a muddy battlefield with some slushy snow here and there, as if the snow has just begun, so some oozing might fit right in with this whole army! As for the paint peeling, I agree with you 100%. When I do the salt method I can't really control it too well, but, I have to patch up the parts that were missed after all's been said and done with dark brown paint, so in the future, on all my vehicles, areas around doors and windows and hatches will be flakier. I like the haphazard pattern of the flakes, because just like in reality, you can't 100% predict the weakest spots in a coat of paint, and sometimes a seemingly random spot starts to rust. -Nikolakhs

Oh nice. I see that when people play around with Nurgle themes they all go crazy with greenstuff, and colors especially green and brown and rusty colors, but they don't play around with textures as much as they could. For instance combining rusty, scratchy textures with glossy, oozing textures, and cobweb-like mold growth. Personally I would play with a hot glue gun and see what different effects I could get. It's so cheap and easy. I might still try that on my chaos spawn even though I am not a nurgle guy.

I see what you are saying about the paint flakes. The salt method is impressing me more than the sponge method at the moment (but only for like tanks and vehicles), it also seems easier than painting flakey bits on, plus you get that actual texture. Did you try hairspray method too?

More updates!

Very badass army you got there, Nik! I've been interested in a Nurgle army for the very reasons you've got here: nasty, disgusting, evil units that are extremely weathered and with no rigid rules. It's pure creativity, whatever you want to do. The modelling you've done here is exceptional, and your army will certainly be an impressive site on the table.

How do nurgle armies fare in the game? Are they expensive points wise?

wow. this is really scary. I have been working on a DG lord with Palenquine and a wrecked Rhino base. DO i know you????? really really werid. You are kickin butt though. nice job on everything. cheers.

Meade wrote:

I see what you are saying about the paint flakes. The salt method is impressing me more than the sponge method at the moment (but only for like tanks and vehicles), it also seems easier than painting flakey bits on, plus you get that actual texture. Did you try hairspray method too?

Well I'm still tinkering around. The sponge method I use for troops as there's no way to maintain details on such a small area with that many steps. I also use it when I forget to salt an area, like I did on one of the wings of my dreadclaw.

Cave_Dweller wrote:Very badass army you got there, Nik! I've been interested in a Nurgle army for the very reasons you've got here: nasty, disgusting, evil units that are extremely weathered and with no rigid rules. It's pure creativity, whatever you want to do. The modelling you've done here is exceptional, and your army will certainly be an impressive site on the table.

How do nurgle armies fare in the game? Are they expensive points wise?

23pts/model, or a full squad of 7 for 196pts means that yes, they're expensive. They're elite troops that are all but immune to small weapons fire and can take a whole boatload of punishment. But they need to be used skillfully as there's not many of them. I've fared pretty well with them, the main idea is to have lots of units that can synergistically combine together to create the Perfect wedge.

sennacherib wrote:wow. this is really scary. I have been working on a DG lord with Palenquine and a wrecked Rhino base. DO i know you????? really really werid. You are kickin butt though. nice job on everything. cheers.

Haha thank you, I guess most nurglings think alike

I'll take pics of my finished dreadclaw soon. I jus need to rust up the metal areas and it's done.

-Nikolakhs

Hey guys! Update time!

So I've finished my dreadclaw, and I've gotten a game in with it as well. It did pretty well, delivering a squad of 10 PM right where they were needed, and looked good to boot :squigdrunk:

So here's some pics of it!

Legs retracted position, the blue dot shows the "front" of the dreadclaw.






Here's the top angle, with the 9 thrusters:


And with the legs open position, ready to poop out a squad of troops right where they're needed to assault. I need to get berserkers one day...



detail shot of retro-thrusters:


So that's that for now! Now that one's done, I'll slowly start work on the other, but for now, I must finish troops and termi's first!

C&C?

Till next time!

-Nikolakhs

[edit] I would have uploaded this to the Dakka gallery but all the pictures are turned sideways

Everything here is awesome! Great work!

Really nice work on the whole army, kudos.

Wow, I didn't know the Dreadclaw Pods could be articulated ? !
Awesome job ! ! !

Once again, beautiful work.

Thank you for all the kind words! I have taken a little while off to get acclimated with the new semester at Uni, but now that I'm in the swing of things and know my schedule, I have time for minis again ever so often!

Anyways! To today's update! So I finished adding tracks to the new leman russ for my traitor guard, and I magnetized the sponsons as well, so I figured it was a good time to post pics of this thing. I want to make it look bashed up, but not too extreme. Like it's been through an extremely harsh combat and is still rumbling forward, like any good nurgle creation. I didn't modify the chassis or turret really, as I like the model as it comes. I did swap out the hull lascannon for one from a weapons team though, as I think the one that comes with the tank is quite ugly.

Pics!






And when the side sponsons are destroyed, this is what it'll look like:




C&C? Any suggestions of things I should add to this before painting starts?

Terminators and troops to come soon!

-Nikolakhs

My hobby mind tells me I love the "fence" within the hull, but the "realistic" in me just feels like something's not right...

But, hey, don't listen to a half of what I said, it looks great !

Damn you can make a plane!