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Next week it will be 6E so get ready =]

I'm actually going to say blood angels on this one as well.

On the one hand, I dislike them because they don't deserve their own codex. Their models are just marines. The units they can take have shocking overlap with the marine codex. They're just red marines.

On the other hand, those things that are different are absurd. You don't get to move and shoot all the weapons on your non-skimmer tank... unless you're blood angels. You can't transport a vehicle inside of another (non-drop-pod) vehicle... unless you're blood angels. You don't get to deepstrike land raiders, that's absurd... unless you're blood angels. The list goes on and on of things that are so fundamentally different that it really makes me wonder if we're playing the same game here. There are core rules that every army needs to follow, the BA just seem to ignore, and for no good reason either.

Nothing special with their models, bland, OTT, warporn fluff that breaks some of the basic fluff principles of the game (here's looking at you, necron), and then on top of this, you add a bunch of free upgrades and nonsensical rules abridgements. More than any army, BA, as it currently exists, least belongs in the world of 40k.

Roll them back into codex marines, with dante as a special character that unlocks death company with a chapter tactic of black rage, and the 40k universe would be able to heal a little.

There are several armies that I dislike on the table, but can't put my finger on any army to dislike for fluff reasons.

I know I am in the minority here, but I dislike the Eldar. And it is for a really petty reason too. I just have such a hard time getting a satisfying victory against them. I have maybe won a game handily like twice against Eldar. Bah!
Yeah I should probably have a better reason, but I don't. I am just gonna be petty on this one/

Really only Grey Knights for me. 1) because the one GK player I've gone up against ragequit after I Time's Arrowed Draigo (he didn't even roll against Time's Arrow, just rage quit on the spot) and 2) psykotroke grenades.

Hate sisters of battle, because all of the models look like lady gaga and everyone I've seen that plays them is a 40-something theres-gotta-be-something-wrong-with-that-guy super weird basement weirdo or feminist.

Everyone who isn't Space Wolves, why you might ask?
Because who doesn't love the Ubermensch.
But in all honesty its the fact that the other armies can't take giant dogs, thats why In the grim darkness of 40K there is only SPACE WOLVES!
Now somebody feed me/

Milisim wrote:Next week it will be 6E so get ready =]

Codex: Blood Ravens...

Tadashi wrote:

Milisim wrote:Next week it will be 6E so get ready =]

Codex: Blood Ravens...

Blood ravens are ultramarines who happen to like more psykers and books. Nothing else different.

Jayden63 wrote:1st - Chaos Demons - They just should not exist. Stole a major fluff away from C:CSM and there is just no reason what so ever for Demons to band together and go raiding.

This. And, having collected eldar so long and they way I like to integrate myself into armies I play to make em more enjoyable, I really don't like slaanesh.... haha.

Bet yeah, Daemons as an army shouldn't work. They could only appear en masse when there was a warp rift, which aren't THAT common. And are normally started by chaos marines!

Also, reason I hate draigo is same thing. He can only show up during a warp rift. Him fighting, say, Eldar makes near no sense, as I doubt the Eldar would get involved in a warp rift if grey knights were going too. And why the hell can he have paladins as troops? Him showing up is RANDOM! It's not like he texts every single paladin unit saying 'hi guise, will be at x place at y time. cyas there! xxx'. If he made em scoring, but still elites, fair enough, but troop choice makes no sense... /rant


Von Chogg

Grey elder wrote:
Now somebody feed me/

Both the Crimson King and the Lord of Ultramar say feed yourself.

BronzeJon wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

Milisim wrote:Next week it will be 6E so get ready =]

Codex: Blood Ravens...

Blood ravens are ultramarines who happen to like more psykers and books. Nothing else different.

Jeers and boos.

By the way, Von Chogg. About your sig, WHAT happened off the Craftworld?

Chaos Daemons. Absolutely NO excuse for this faction even existing as a separate list. One of the earlier attempts to impose WHFB on 40K.

Milisim wrote:I don't understand all this anti tau / not grim Dark stuff either...

Disliking them based on they dont want to rape, pillage, murder and eradicate everyone who opposes them is idiotic.


Anyone who thinks that is cool should take a tour of Auschwitz and get back to me on how cool it actually is.

It is a good thing no one is saying that isnt it.

People are saying that they think that the Tau dont fit with the universe where the 'good guys' before the Tau was the xenopohic and mass murdering Imperium and the Eldar who would trade billions of lives to save hundred of their own and than the Tau come out and are handing out candy to everyone who agrees to join.

For the most part people just want to the Tau fit better in the rest of the universe, they currently feel out of placed.


Dont pick up a moral high ground and act like who enjoy a dark setting are horrible sadistic monsters. All it is in this dark fantasy world, they find the grim and dark nature of it appealing... in the fantasy world



Ive been to the Holocaust museum a lot and I personally hate the idea of torture and find the people who fail to follow the laws of war and the Geneva Convention appaling yet Im one of the first to say I feel the Tau dont belong.

Galdos wrote:

Milisim wrote:I don't understand all this anti tau / not grim Dark stuff either...

Disliking them based on they dont want to rape, pillage, murder and eradicate everyone who opposes them is idiotic.


Anyone who thinks that is cool should take a tour of Auschwitz and get back to me on how cool it actually is.

It is a good thing no one is saying that isnt it.

People are saying that they think that the Tau dont fit with the universe where the 'good guys' before the Tau was the xenopohic and mass murdering Imperium and the Eldar who would trade billions of lives to save hundred of their own and than the Tau come out and are handing out candy to everyone who agrees to join.

For the most part people just want to the Tau fit better in the rest of the universe, they currently feel out of placed.


Dont pick up a moral high ground and act like who enjoy a dark setting are horrible sadistic monsters. All it is in this dark fantasy world, they find the grim and dark nature of it appealing... in the fantasy world



Ive been to the Holocaust museum a lot and I personally hate the idea of torture and find the people who fail to follow the laws of war and the Geneva Convention appaling yet Im one of the first to say I feel the Tau dont belong.

Oh give the Tau a break, they're a nigh futile existence. Their a short lived race that dreams big and perhaps thus do burn ever so brightly but they are more or less just a damned as the rest of the galaxy is, probably more as they are fairly puny in size.

IMOP, The Necrons for sure... I mean really? Metal Zombie Egyptians? Who comes up with these jokes because they arenot funny... They have someof the stupidest rules in the game, they piss off more people then eldar do! Tesla weapons dont even fit in with egyptian lore, thats on a seperate continent... To me they just don't seem to fit in with the 40k fluff, not one bit besides being a terminator fans wet dream gone horribly wrong

Riddick40k wrote:IMOP, The Necrons for sure... I mean really? Metal Zombie Egyptians? Who comes up with these jokes because they arenot funny... They have someof the stupidest rules in the game, they piss off more people then eldar do! Tesla weapons dont even fit in with egyptian lore, thats on a seperate continent... To me they just don't seem to fit in with the 40k fluff, not one bit besides being a terminator fans wet dream gone horribly wrong

Tesla fits fine with Necron lore. They are the apex of Technology so why wouldn't they use such tech (and remember, the weapon names you see are what the Imperium calls them)? By your logic, Gauss technology should be tossed as it doesn't fit with Egyptian lore. Which is silly. Read some Necron fluff and then come back and tell us about how Egyptian they are (which they really aren't except on the very, VERY surface).

I just dislike the GK because they have idiot answers to everything. Two easy things to solve it... cleansing flames only affects things directly in base contact and independent characters can only toss one type of grenade not one of everything.

King Pariah wrote:Their a short lived race that dreams big and perhaps thus do burn ever so brightly but they are more or less just a damned as the rest of the galaxy is, probably more as they are fairly puny in size.

Well said, Overlord. Personally, I find the idea of 'good guys' in 40k a big joke with bad taste.

Good guys?

Merely a touch less worst than the rest.

Chaos Daemons. Just seem out of place in a scifi environment. Don't care for the models.

wolfy mc wolferson wolfed as he became the wolfiest wolf of the wolves

that's about how the space wolves seem to me

i also voted grey knights because force weapons are great btu having acess to force weapons for all is broken

Just seen the results... no surprises there then.

I play orks, and I have not played much against Blood Angels and never against Space Wolves, but if I have problems with Grey Knights and Imperial Guard so I image is going to be close to the same. I was talking to a friend and for what we see in 6th edition we are going to have a lot of problems as ork players.

I dont like necrons. Eygptian robots. I think it must just be the look of them I dont like.

juraigamer wrote:Space wolves.

They're soooo dumb. Cheap units, rules, wargear, powers, and much more. Also basically drunk marines/vikings.

I'd rather play GK, at least they have a weakness, being shot at.

Here's the thing. I like Vikings. I read sagas in trranslation.

Space Wolves are a cartoon version of what could be a fascinating and nuanced force if it were simply true to *any* version of the vikings but bad movie versions.

Egil Skallagrimsson serving the emperor! Frikkin awesome! H, Beam Piper's Space Vikings! Frikkin awesome! Goofy over-the-top Viking caricatures?

BronzeJon wrote:Hate sisters of battle, because all of the models look like lady gaga and everyone I've seen that plays them is a 40-something theres-gotta-be-something-wrong-with-that-guy super weird basement weirdo or feminist.

Grey Knights and all their overpowered crap... out of all the armies, you can have a mediocre player do really well with this army, because it is so overpowered, most other armies are not this forgiving to a lesser player.. IMO

BT- Their fluff and fans drive me nuts.

captain collius wrote:BT- Their fluff and fans drive me nuts.

Only because you got cocky in a thread and we roflstomped you. Take your lumps like a man and move on, sheesh.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Tau, everyone talks at my store about how they are "The only good guys" and they help others. i hate that, 40k is a world of grey.

Tau are grey, they just look white next to all the blackness. They're imperialist with a "join us or we'll shoot you" ideology and some fluff (I can't remember if it's exaclty canon though) had them putting humans into "re-education camps" and having all but an allocated minority of the humans being unable to breed, like what the Combine did in HL2.