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d3m01iti0n wrote:

captain collius wrote:BT- Their fluff and fans drive me nuts.

Only because you got cocky in a thread and we roflstomped you. Take your lumps like a man and move on, sheesh.

Wow, that's pretty damn harsh there from both sides, we are all entitled to our opinions. This entire thread is an invitation for people to say specifically what they do not like, it's subjective therefore how can there be a right and wrong?

EDIT - Oh and AMEN to this...

Ailaros wrote:I'm actually going to say blood angels on this one as well.

On the one hand, I dislike them because they don't deserve their own codex. Their models are just marines. The units they can take have shocking overlap with the marine codex. They're just red marines.

On the other hand, those things that are different are absurd. You don't get to move and shoot all the weapons on your non-skimmer tank... unless you're blood angels. You can't transport a vehicle inside of another (non-drop-pod) vehicle... unless you're blood angels. You don't get to deepstrike land raiders, that's absurd... unless you're blood angels. The list goes on and on of things that are so fundamentally different that it really makes me wonder if we're playing the same game here. There are core rules that every army needs to follow, the BA just seem to ignore, and for no good reason either.

Nothing special with their models, bland, OTT, warporn fluff that breaks some of the basic fluff principles of the game (here's looking at you, necron), and then on top of this, you add a bunch of free upgrades and nonsensical rules abridgements. More than any army, BA, as it currently exists, least belongs in the world of 40k.

Roll them back into codex marines, with dante as a special character that unlocks death company with a chapter tactic of black rage, and the 40k universe would be able to heal a little.

Tyranids. They don't fight to conquer, they fight to go forward until they inevitably starve.

SW I like the background but for me they are easily the most OP army out there.

Coolyo294 wrote:Space Wolves.
Stupid fluff+stupid models+stupid rules=my least favorite army.

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Wow, a lot of these results surprise me, Black Templar has a decent number behind them along with Daemons.

Surprise (and happy) to see low IG is on the list

I personally don't like demons. Seeing as I care a bit more about fluff than tabletop rules, that's my least favourite army, for the reasons already stated by other people in this thread.

Then there's Space Wolves, because once again the fluff is just too... much. And I don't like the models that much either, not to mention my biggest rival played SW, but that's all great fun.

I didn't tick these, but BA rules (not fluff as much) are seriously bizarre, as well as GK rules. I used to like necrons alot, but now I actually hate their fluff, being one of those old school soulless machine fans.

I just Grey Knights. They are high in number here in my region. Too high, we have a 10 year old who is a bad player but he can win with grey knights as everything just doesn't die. He uses internet power lists. Just looks at my foot guard, laughs. Then all my bullets just bounce off, until my lascannonc hit but then fething cover as usual. Oh it's 5E, cover. That grass will save that lascannon shot. Hate them, they should be banished forever.

1. Tau, annoying short little things I just want to squish to a pulp. Self Righteous Pricks to the extreme
2 Newcrons. Butchered Background.

Lord Rogukiel wrote:I personally don't like demons. Seeing as I care a bit more about fluff than tabletop rules, that's my least favourite army, for the reasons already stated by other people in this thread.

Then there's Space Wolves, because once again the fluff is just too... much. And I don't like the models that much either, not to mention my biggest rival played SW, but that's all great fun.

I didn't tick these, but BA rules (not fluff as much) are seriously bizarre, as well as GK rules. I used to like necrons alot, but now I actually hate their fluff, being one of those old school soulless machine fans.

I personally miss their soulless machine oriented fluff, they have more "character" now but it's not nearly as interesting in the grand scheme of things.

As much as I hate marines I hate what has become of the Sisters of Battle. What I mean is I love them to death, but the game has made them damn near unplayable unless you use one of two very specific lists in order to continue to be competitive. Bugs the crap out of me that they are also a fluff punching bag for damn near every other army out there.

Da Boss wrote:Grey Knights as they currently stand. They should be an elites choice in Space Marine or Guard lists, not a codex in their own right. The same can be said for all marine variant chapters, but Grey Knights are the worst.

I agree. I have no problem with GKs other than that I don't feel they deserve to be a playable army of their own.

Oh and the Draigo fluff thing. That's lame too.

I voted grey knights, but it was a close call between them and chaos marines. Oooh thats gonna get me some dirty looks. But the reasoning behind it, is that it just seems...like a boring way to make an army. We have space marines! And...Evil space marines! And...Super-space marines! It just bores me, but thats just a personnal opinion.

Grey knights edged it because they both fall under my first reason, and are rather cheap when played against. Feels bad to lose to a tiny army, I don't mind losing to a big army, because it feels more plausable.

Galdos wrote:

Surprise (and happy) to see low IG is on the list

Some builds of IG are broken as hell, but I think that most people don't actually hate them as they see them a necessary and somewhat unique part of 40K.

Its just so much easier to build up more hate towards one of the SM armies or a xenos army that just rubs you the wrong way.

Ultra marines. Or as my friend likes to call them, the gaylords.

Why? Of all the SM chapters they are such a bunch of sickening emperor loving goody two shoes. So frikken noble and idealistic. With an ego big enough to clobber an effing titan. Not to mention being GW's poster boys. And way to many people play them around here wich kills all the variety.

Do i sound bitter? probably am... a little. Im a xenos fan for the most part and id just like to see more alien armies pop up instead of people always playing the training wheels army.
Ill shut up now.

I guess the Imperial Guard. Just plain old soldiers. Kinda boring to me.
Space Marines are a close second. I do like the Dreadnaught.
Eldar and Orks are tied for third. Eldar look weird, but the Orks just kinda ruined orcs in every other game I play. I can't take Thrall seriously anymore. Glad I picked a Blood Elf Death Knight.

Really surprised to see IG at literally the bottom of the hate with orks. Looks my armies are both cool and fun to play with nothing broken about them /trolling. Either people don't know there's multiple choice enabled, or they just hate SW/GK/BA way more. I know where I live, we get a fair amount of IG hate, to the point that I modeled my commander in the "haters gonna hate" style walk just because I was sick of it...

As for who I dislike the most, I put Dark Eldar, but that's only because I've never played regular eldar. I dislike any army that doesn't put up a real fight. Chasing skimmers all game just for him to move one onto each of my objectives (because apparently a 30 man platoon has no way of stopping a skimmer coming right at them) just isn't fun. But that may be local players, and not the army. They look like they may be an ok army in the hands of certain people.

Second place goes to, you guessed it, Space wolves, but for a bit of a different reason than you might think. Everyone who plays them around here does the Long Fang spam style. 4 players, and they all have almost identical lists. If there was some variety, I probably wouldn't mind, but it's the same thing, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. The only one that gets a by is the guy who uses his Iron Warriors as counts as wolves, and that's only because they look awesome .

Heck I'd even put up with that stupid power that lets them snipe my commissars if they would just mix things up a bit.

As for Grey Knights and Blood Angles, never played either, but I feel like I should be glad for that. Neither struck me as a "fun" army to play with or against, so I'm glad I don't deal with them. May make a fluffy inquisitor henchman list sometime though. Wouldn't be too hard with all the IG stuff I have...

SIsters of Battle are mine. I dont have anything overly personal against them. I dont mind women fighting in grim dark future. I think it's just the whole idea of Catholic church in space. Hasn't tickled my fancy yet!
But Orks? Let me tell ya...

Grey elder wrote:Everyone who isn't Space Wolves, why you might ask?
Because who doesn't love the Ubermensch.
But in all honesty its the fact that the other armies can't take giant dogs, thats why In the grim darkness of 40K there is only SPACE WOLVES!
Now somebody feed me/

This, + Space Vikings, who drink and swear and generally have a good time, instead of being all "hurr durr everything is grim and we're monks who cant live without being way too over the top".

Orks. I'm just not a real fan of how they fit in with everything. I don't like the humor that they bring into the game. If I wanted to laugh at something then I would go watch comedy central. I don't want it or need it in this game. They are the only army I could do without in this game and the only one that I wouldn't ever want to play

I hate Orks, their fluff is absolutely stupid.

There was a story in Fear the Alien about the Tau attacking a world, and a Raven Guard Marine gets stranded in the middle of a wasteland with a guardsman. They wind up on a farm where Kroot are eating everybody, and making a quilt out of their skin. Long story short: I think that the Kroot make the Tau a little grimdarkier. What other races eat there foes? (don't say Tyranids)

Probably the occasional Dark Eldar (tho they're likely to smoke you, as well ) and Chaos Cults

Ignatius wrote:Orks. I'm just not a real fan of how they fit in with everything. I don't like the humor that they bring into the game.

Then you're not getting all of the rest of the jokes. Grimdark is ultradry british absurdist humor. Orks are probably the least witty army (and thus most understandable for their humor), but that doesn't mean that the rest of the environment isn't humorous.

Tau.

They need to take their bright, hopeful, goody-goody view/outlook of the universe, jump into their frakking Gundams and get back into the Anime they were ripped out of.

They are damaging my GrimDark with their very presence, and they need to be removed.

Huh.

Orks have 7 votes and four posts against them.

Grey Knights have 100+ votes and a half a dozen(?) posts against them.


We Orks must respect the passion of our adversaries, however few they may be.

Honorable mention for Tau. Only 32 votes against and the most posts against.

Necronboy wrote:There was a story in Fear the Alien about the Tau attacking a world, and a Raven Guard Marine gets stranded in the middle of a wasteland with a guardsman. They wind up on a farm where Kroot are eating everybody, and making a quilt out of their skin. Long story short: I think that the Kroot make the Tau a little grimdarkier. What other races eat there foes? (don't say Tyranids)

I think orks eat some races if they win, but I'm not 100% on that. I know they'll eat grots, and sometimes mention how tasty certain species are. It's usually played to comedic effect (grot fails something, ork gets mad and eats him) or for grimdark.

Orks can be incredibly grimdark when they feel like it. Destroying entire planets just because they can, might makes right mentality, and enslaving entire planets just to turn their population into slaves for munition factories, etc. Most people just choose to not show it because we get plenty grimdark with the other races. Argue all you want, but without races like the orks and tau to shake things up a bit, things would get stale in a hurry. Sometimes you need to have a little contrast to show just how bad everything else is.

Evileyes wrote:I voted grey knights, but it was a close call between them and chaos marines. Oooh thats gonna get me some dirty looks. But the reasoning behind it, is that it just seems...like a boring way to make an army. We have space marines! And...Evil space marines! And...Super-space marines! It just bores me, but thats just a personnal opinion.

I'd have to agree that they really need to rework things about the chaos marines; bring back the ancient evil b@st@rds who roam around in the eye of terror, ruling over daemon worlds, instead of them just being renegades, cuz renegades aren't going to conquer anything on their own..

On Topic:
I went with the Space wolves as my most disliked, as I am a thousand sons fan and really hate the fact they can never do wrong and get away with so much crap that other chapters are basically just wiped out for.

After them would be the Grey Knights and Necrons.

Necrons only because I really just hate some of their new fluff, Grey Knights because I hate ALL of their new fluff.

Tau. They don't match and they're boring.

What do you know...Grey Knights were 24% of the field at Adepticon this year and after my vote they have a commanding lead at 24% as the most hated army in the game. I love it. Almost brought a tear to my eye lol

Reivax26 wrote:What do you know...Grey Knights were 24% of the field at Adepticon this year and after my vote they have a commanding lead at 24% as the most hated army in the game. I love it. Almost brought a tear to my eye lol

Last Year went to a Tournament with my Club Chairman, he had a Daemon Army. Last game of 5, he played Grey knights. He is a superb 40k Player and tabled the Grey Knights Army by turn 3. It was incredible, the GK player went absolutely berserk "That cannot happen, they are designed specifically to kill Daemons", but Jonno simply told him "if you don't know how to play just buying GK's isn't enough to win" he was a bit unlucky, but his tactics were crap and Jonnos Daemons just refused to battle on his terms, and literally ripped their small force apart.

Problem is, not many of us are superb players (I'm talking Grand Tournament level winners here) so GK being forgiving and uber-powered means to most of us we dread the damn GK's.