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No kroot? Gw just made finecast kroot. So there will be rules for them somewhere...otherwise gw would not have included them in the release.

Kal-El wrote:No kroot? Gw just made finecast kroot. So there will be rules for them somewhere...otherwise gw would not have included them in the release.

I agree, GW keeps released products for at least 2 years. Although personally I think it was a mistake they the Jokero Weaponsmith was made in metal right before finecast came out.

WHFB got "sorcerous pacts" (not sure if this is the right name in english) in Storm of Magic. Why not getting something similar in 40k? We have some hints that GW hasn't forgotten minor races: rulebook speaks about abhumans, squats are mentioned again, we even have a new hrud drawing. That could mean a codex:mercenaries (maybe standalone, maybe through WD) to use as Allies. They just need a few rule changes only in case you use this "codex" (for example, no HQ required).

Or closer to WHFB, a new expansion about mercenaries with its own allies FOC in case you play this expansion.

Of course, have to wait...

Close combat suits? These better be big gun drone things, otherwise...

MATT WARD GTFO OF MY CODEX!

juraigamer wrote:Close combat suits? These better be big gun drone things, otherwise...

MATT WARD GTFO OF MY CODEX!

Glad we're keeping things real.

I do doubt the legitimacy of these rumors.. (lolphrase) but if they are true I would imagine a book or white dwarf issue dedicated to something along the lines of..

-Sorcerous Pacts-
- Dogs of War -
- Allies Appendix -

There's plenty they could use.. random military elements, eldar corsairs or pirates, summoned demons, freebootaz, hive gangers.. etc.

I've always wondered how a Scryer Gang would fare in a 40k army.

The assault suit could also be something like the XV9 "Hazard" in forge world.

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Logan wrote:Talking to guy whonis higher up than me in an email here is what he said
" Now Logan, I have received your emails regarding your next project. You asked why there has been a lack of a certain unit(Kroot) all I can tell is that right now it is being heatedly discussed wether to keep them in our upcoming release. We want this book to refelct the primary army, not necessarily other "mercanary" forces. When we sort it out we promise to let you have a peak.

Thank you for your concerns and comments regarding this matter."

if this guy is for real and he just posted a communication like that, it's probably sufficiently unique to insta-out him to GW rumoursquashers.
even if he's for real, he's not the brightest bulb ever.

I can see a mercenaries codex/list/whatever working, though. if the Allies rule makes sense for anyone, it's for Tau...

Also the writing & spelling of the guy "that is higher up than him" is rather suspect, making me fear for the Tau codex if he truly is involved

I haven't seen this guy before, so i'm not sure how trustworthy he is, but what he has said seems more like trolling or at least highly unlikely to me.

The thing about:

We want this book to refelct the primary army, not necessarily other "mercenary" forces

Seems completed strange to me. It's a Tau Empire Codex, not just Tau. They aren't all Mercenaries either.

The way some of it is worded just seems untrustworthy to me, as well as quite a few spelling mistakes in that supposed E-mail (You'd think they'd at least bother to read what they've written before they send it) He says he's heard rumors about no Kroot, but then he changes his mind and says he's seen no evidence of Kroot, and then comes up with an 'e-mail' with an explanation which just happens to justify everything he's said.

The whole wording of that E-mail is absurd to me, itjust matches exactly what information he wants people to hear like he wrote it himself. If you are sending an e-mail to someone in reply to a question, do you really tell them:

1. Straight away tell them who they are, incase they forget.
2. You have received the E-mail which you are now sending a reply to
3. What they asked in the first place, as if they wouldn't know what they asked.
4. Tell them you can't say anything, but then tell them more.
5. You'll definitely provide them more information in the future, which gives them a reason to suddenly provide more rumors at some point.

Wouldn't there be some sort of NDA for these things as well, and he's just given quite a lot of information?

It also contradicts earlier rumours which actually had the Tau Empire add more alien races.

Which doesn't necessarily have to be true either, of course.

I really think this is nonsense. If this guy really is involved in the play testing of the tau codex, and the email he said he received is genuine, then he will very quickly find himself "uninvolved". Posting the email (if genuine) more or less identifies himself.

More likely this is simply made up twaddle.

EYIG

Assault suits offend me as a Tau player. Close combat is barbaric and Luddite, leave it to the aliens.

This is definite BS.

Yeaaah.. I have 60 fully painted kroot carnivores. If Kroot aren't in the 'dex, I'm going to be more than a little pissed.

Cottonjaw wrote:Yeaaah.. I have 60 fully painted kroot carnivores. If Kroot aren't in the 'dex, I'm going to be more than a little pissed.

hehe. It wouldn't be the first time that a big unit like that disappeared from a codex. Sisters lost Redemptionists when we moved to C:WH. Guess who had 60+ painted (metal, bitz ordered) redemptionists?

Luckily they gave us guard allies, so I ended up converting them. I imagine something similar will be possible with kroot if they disappear.

Have never used kroot with my Tau, so I'd be the only person not missing them!

Davylove21 wrote:Assault suits offend me as a Tau player. Close combat is barbaric and Luddite, leave it to the aliens.

This is definite BS.

This.

I'd rather have XV9s specifically designed as close range shooting and harassment forces.

Druidic wrote:Have never used kroot with my Tau, so I'd be the only person not missing them!

I used them in 5th as a cheap scoring unit in cover but I planned on retiring them from my army (and in fact removed them from my carrying case). Overwatch by marines (my usual opponent army) with bolters vs a no-save t3 unit and lower forest cover pushed them out. I used the spot for my wretched allies contingent of eldar rangers and farseer. That being said, I don't personally believe this particular set of rumors.

Close combat suits and removal of kroot?

So basically the tau are getting necron'd in the fluff department if somehow this rumour turns out to be true..

Im pretty sure its BS

I'm not lending much credence to this set of Tau rumors. Remember the ghost21 fabrications about a year ago? Additionally, the "e-mail" is wrought with grammatical and spelling errors, which usually points to a fabrication. I'm not saying it's a surefire thing, but I definitely agree with Mentlegen. It just smells fishy. Also, in terms of the assault suit, I just don't see it happening, same with the elimination of the Kroot. Not to mention he didn't even include the Vespid in his statement, either. So, unless Tau are getting massively retconned, I don't see it happening. But, thinking about it, I'm also wondering if maybe there is a shread of truth to this rumor, and it's different than we're thinking about. Perhaps what this Logan guy has seen are rules for the Farsight Enclave, which I could see as having assault suits and no Kroot. Could it be a WD expansion similar to next month's Daemons release? Who knows...I'm just wildly speculating. For now, I'm just going to file this away along with the other rumors until we get something a little more concrete than a random guy who is a supposed playtester.

TH3FALL3N wrote:Really interesting if the kroot are dropped out of the Dex.

That would be awesome. Another big FU from GW to its fan base.

Drop a plastic kit completely (with no replacement, that is)? I just don’t see them doing it. If their intent is to do a full Kroot army, thereby allowing the Allies rules to take care of this issue, then fine, but I can’t see them just dropping the Kroot out completely like that.

SickSix wrote:I don't like it. This would be a total fluff reversal/retcon to suddenly have 'assault' crisis suits and no alien auxiliaries to make up for the tau's lack of CC.

What you mean like Necrons? Its not like it hasnt happened before.

spectreoneone wrote:So, unless Tau are getting massively retconned...

Well if a certain someone ends up being the book’s author, that is a possibility. Then you combine that possibility with the rumours of ‘assault Crisis Suits’ and we might not be that far away from “Pulse Blades” and “Pulse Fists” and so on.


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pretre wrote:Glad we're keeping things real.

Wouldn't 'keeping it real' be the acknowledgement of criticism rather than the denial that anything is wrong with Ward’s work?

And I think I just got a combo-multiplier for four ‘w’ words in a row! Yeah!

If only we could get bonus points for alliteration.

Criticism is different from writing silly things in all caps.

No, no, no.

Your response should have been:

“What’s wrong with Ward’s writing?”

To which I reply:

“What wasn’t wrong with Ward’s woefully wretched written words?”

And then I think I get a ‘check mate’ or a ‘go fish’ or something because I doubt there’s a response with 10 ‘w’ words. I’m not sure. The rules to this game are confusing. Would that fill my starpower meter?

It might fill your starpower meter... but there is no known use other that helping google cute cat memes


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Oh and Tau, I for one wont miss Kroot... mainly because I haven't really connected with them like our deal old Frenchies... I mean tau.

Surely starpower scores stay self-sustaining since stars shine solely so science stays safe.

Well whatever wretched Ward would write, wouldn't work without wrecking wonderfully written wonders.

SickSix wrote:Well whatever wretched Ward would write, wouldn't work without wrecking wonderfully written wonders.

You sunk my battleship!!!

kronk wrote:If they dropped Kroot, but kept the models, would that mean a Codex: Mercenaries would be in the works? Kroot, Squats, Ogrin, Beastmen, Ratlings, and so on?

This would be awesome.
The only problem is that my Dark Angels don't like abhumans, and I would really want both Squats and Beastmen as allies.

Oh, also, the super "W" posts were pretty dang impressive.