Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012

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**Kingsley**

Dantalian wrote:History has always proven that troops are far safer outside an armored transp-- oh wait.

Actually, history has showed this! APCs exist to get infantry to the fight, not for them to shelter inside. Even IFVs exist to provide fire support, not for infantry to fight from them-- while early IFV desgins included firing ports (and even in some cases specialized weapons for passengers to fire from them), this has generally proved ineffectual and fire ports have been removed from most current-generation vehicles, in favor of tactics where the infantry simply dismount and fight alongside or ahead of their vehicles.

**caminacambob**

I would love for my hazard suit to no longer be a "count-as"...

Hope that a crisis suit revamp doesn't make the old ones look ridiculous.....

However, i won'get carried away,had my heart broken by Tau rumours before

**A Town Called Malus**

caminacambob wrote:I would love for my hazard suit to no longer be a "count-as"...

Hope that a crisis suit revamp doesn't make the old ones look ridiculous.....

However, i won'get carried away,had my heart broken by Tau rumours before

There is the possibility that a Crisis suit revamp makes the new ones look ridiculous.

I don't mind the current XV8s, they're practical and functional, everything a Tau mech should be.

**caminacambob**

Haha very true! Same here but i think the FW hazards are even better!

**timetowaste85**

pretre wrote:According to the Ongoing Rumor Tracking thread?
Stickmonkey - Total rumors: (8 TRUE) / (10 FALSE) / (84 PENDING)

Spoiler:

Tau Rumors - August 2012
Tau Codex early next year. PENDING
Kroot and other existing allies are there, however they are limited. PENDING
There appears to be an "Allies" supplement which will be out about the same time and include many more options. PENDING
Crisis suits completely redone. PENDING
Stealth suits completely redone. PENDING
Pirahna has new option and I am not sure if it will be reboxed together or be sold as an upgrade kit. PENDING
New Pathfinders were seen being worked on a while back. PENDING
Ethereals expanded, new unit options around them. PENDING
There is a FW Tau model which has a unit entry in the codex. PENDING
The floating chair ethereal was seen being worked on for a new model. PENDING
New fast skimmer sized between hammerhead and pirahna. PENDING
Flyer has dual gattling cannons PENDING
Flyer has option for rail guns PENDING
Flyer has bombs (not missiles!?) PENDING

Railguns have a JOWW effect, they can hit multiple models in a line, but if hitting vehicles has a max number of hull points it can cause. the way this is described is it draws a line from the barrel to table edge, every model under starts taking hits starting with the closest. if it hits a vehicle or structure with HP, its strength drops, once it hits 3 or a table edge or fails to make a penetrating hit its done. rhino line's watch out! PENDING
There is some rumor of an Anti Psyker weapon. like night fighting, but no psychic powers for a game turn. PENDING
There is no flyer dedicated transport, and the existing flyer is going to be competing against some very good other options PENDING
The jetpack troops have some option to "pop up and shoot" from behind cover. PENDING

Digital Releases - August 2012
August: Should be up Saturday (8/1/2012) PENDING
Codex: Daemons (obvious) PENDING
How to Paint Chaos Daemons PENDING
Daemons Tactica PENDING
WFB Temple of Skulls scenario PENDING
WFB Soul Grinder PENDING

September releases:
6th Ed 40k digital rulebook (will go up same weekend as starter set released) PENDING
How to Paint (I am not certain but this may be the same as the flip book that was released earlier this year with the paint set.) PENDING
And a few more WFB PENDING

October releases:
Codex: CSM (going up same weekend as codex released) PENDING
How to paint: CSM PENDING
Tactica: CSM PENDING
And a few more WFB PENDING

November Releases:
Codex: Grey Knights PENDING
HtP: GK PENDING
Tactica: GK PENDING
And a few more WFB PENDING

December Releases:
Codex: Sisters of Battle PENDING
HtP: SoB PENDING
Tactica: SoB PENDING
And a few more WFB PENDING

Starter Set - August 2012
October Chaos Space Marines PENDING
WoC will drop in Oct or Nov PENDING

Chaos Legions Codex - July 2012
May Chaos Codex FALSE
New Plastics PENDING
Chaos Dread PENDING
Plastic Raptors PENDING
Plastic PlagueBearers PENDING
New Character Sculpts PENDING
Traitor Guard PENDING

4 Legions represented: EC, DG, WE, TS
Starter
DA Tacs in Starter are not AOBR, but new sculpts with DA icons PENDING
Sgt with Combi and Power Sword, 7 Bolter Marines, 1 Meltagun, 1 Plasma Cannon PENDING
Release Schedule Rumors - June 2012
Rumored Daemon wave:
Plague bearers (5x box) Plastic. Priced as pink horrors FALSE
Furies (5x box) plastic. Priced as de scourges FALSE
Blue scribes (finecast) TRUE
Herald of nurgle (finecast) TRUE
Plastic GDs are done, rumored to have pieces to build named GD as variants ( though not expected til 2013) PENDING

Rumored flyer wave:
De bomber PENDING
Eldar fighter PENDING
Tau fighter PENDING

Rumored box set contents: Marines and Chaos PENDING
Chaos Space Marines next codex PENDING

Rumored July release: 6th Ed hard back, 6th Ed special edition, Limited templates, game aids, and what not for 6th edition... TRUEWRONG DATE

(On Deffcoptas)
They are a little bulkier, but not that much bigger. A few pilot options, and some (I think 2) grot hangers on. And some other flavor bits. Like all ork kits you can go to town with making it unique. It's 1 full sprue per Kotpa. To do 3 per box would mean the rhino size box. PENDING
Ork Wave
Ork Wave by Spring 2013 PENDING
Ork buggy/half track Dakka/skorcha/rokket plastic (3x box) priced like Necron wraiths PENDING
Deffcopters all options plastic (3x box) priced like Terminators PENDING
Meganobs all options plastic (5x box) priced like terminators PENDING
Flashgits upgrade finecast (3x clamshell) priced like boneswords PENDING
Cybork upgrade finecast (3x clamshell) priced like boneswords PENDING

Daemons - March 2012
Plastic Furies FALSE
Plastic Plaguebearers TRUE
Karanak and hounds to finecast TRUE

Chaos - June 2012
Plastic Chaos Drop Pod PENDING

Flyers - June 2012
Before end of August 2012 FALSE
Eldar dual kit. Fighter, bomber/heavy, transport. Heavy attack and transport share design PENDING
Tau fighter/gunship, size of stormtalon. new missiles options involving markerlights PENDING
Tau transport in codex PENDING
Dark eldar bomber in August FALSE
Third Necron Flyer in 2013-ish PENDING

Eldar Rumors - May 2012
'Early Rumors': All aspects can be troops (may be only one unit), but not through Phoenix Lords. PENDING
Point reduction on Guardians. PENDING
Tanks (NightS, FP, Falc) have point reduction PENDING
Transports the same PENDING
Storms are an upgrade to normal guardians PENDING
Wraith units move towards guide if out of range. Guides give buffs. PENDING
Possible new aspects and wraithguard PENDING
Shields for WS will work differently PENDING
Phoenix lord table wide buffs for their aspect PENDING

DA Tidbits - Feb 2012
'Wolfguard' chaplains PENDING
Plasma Sponsons and Plasma Tanks PENDING
DA in Starter Kit PENDING

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/421948.page#3767725]Tyranid 2nd Wave Jan 2012
Tyrannofex plastic with options to build as Tervigon, TRUE
Tyrannofex not dual with Tervigon (different posts) FALSE
Plastic Tyrant with SL bits, TRUE
Tyranid direct only lashwhip bonesword upgrade blister for warriors TRUE
Doom blister, Parasite, "yrmgarll?" direct only genestealer blister...like flashgit model, one pose, direct only. Harpy, PENDING WRONG DATE
thunderbolt fighter in design for plastic PENDING

Schedule for Releases from Dec 2011 Dec 2011
2012 Q1/2 - tau (or flipped w BT) FALSE
2012 Q2/3 - BT ( possible WD codex) PENDING
2012 Q3 - 6 Ed FALSE
2012 Q3/4 - eldar PENDING

Pretre, I'd give Stickmonkey some slack on the 6th ed in Q3 thing-july is month 7, which makes it the beginning of Q3. As it came out a day before that (if memory serves), he was right on the line-give him that one as "correct." Off by a day is not something to be picky about. He called it, he's equal for his non-pending rumors at this point. Think about it, but in your heart, you know it to be true.

**pretre**

Yeah, We ended up giving it to him after some discussion. His record now looks like this:
Stickmonkey - Total rumors: (10 TRUE) / (4 FALSE) / (82 PENDING)

Spoiler:

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Just noticed some more things I want to update in there, so it may change again as well.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
There. Updated.

**timetowaste85**

One more of his rumors can show up true: WFB soul grinder-they did switch it over in the mini-dex, which I guess could count as a Chaos Daemons codex...maybe. I'll leave that to your discretion, but the WFB soul grinder is a big yes. So I guess he's at 11 true now, one less pending. We do appreciate the hard work in keeping track of what's/who's reliable, so if we/I catch stuff that needs to switch in categories, we'll/I'll let you know.

**pretre**

That's for the digital version of the rules for the WFB Soul Grinder and was posted after the Daemon WD was released.

**timetowaste85**

Oh, I gotcha. Previous statement retracted then. Let's go back to hearing about those crappy Tau. Lol

**Ledabot**

I notice something off also. The false under the flyers should still be pending, since august hasn't finished yet.

**pretre**

Yeah, I took a liberty with that one. I'll reverse it if I have to, but it is pretty much set at this point that we're not going to see flyers. Unless they double release on us, in which case I will apologize.

**Ledabot**

We since we do have 3 saterdays this month left, I wouldn't be too surprised if something big showed up. Maybe the 19th? I'm guessing completely on this btw.

**UltraPrime**

Has there ever been a major release NOT advertised in WD? I don't think so.

**Micky**

UltraPrime wrote:Has there ever been a major release NOT advertised in WD? I don't think so.

Kinda the whole point of the magaz... catalogue these days, isnt it?

**barnowl**

Any one considered that the Stickymonkey is at least half right on the reworked Stealth suits? The XV15 is now available as a 3 pack in finecast. And for not to much more than the old metal blister cost was costing.

**HoverBoy**

I'd kinda like to see more suits in the XV1 category myself.

**Ledabot**

Micky wrote:
UltraPrime wrote:Has there ever been a major release NOT advertised in WD? I don't think so.

Kinda the whole point of the magaz... catalogue these days, isnt it?

See, I wasn't wrong about something coming out on the 19th, just that it isn't flyers like we hoped.

**Kroothawk**

The leaked list seems to confirm a few things:

- Mako (Plastic, Rhino sized box) <- Rumoured to be a vehicle smaller than Hammerhead but bigger than Piranha
- Commander Farsight (Resin Blister)
- Vespid Stingwings / Vespid Spinewings (Plastic Box)
- Nautilus Defence Platform (Terrain, Plastic, big Land Raider sized box)

shaso_iceborn wrote:Did I not mention a Mako months ago? and the Nautilus is simillar to the defense platform seen in the Apocalypse book from what I hear.

As reference two unreleased Tau terrain pieces:

Also released with the Allies Supplement:
- Kroothawks (Resin)

So the Mako first named by shaso_iceborn over at Warseer seems to be correct. SciFi terrain pieces predicted by Harry seem to be correct. Kroot units partly covered outside the standard Codex seems to be correct.

Keep in mind that these are second wave releases June 2013 or later. First wave is expected first half 2013 and not listed.

**H.B.M.C.**

Imagine if that piece of Tau terrain did all three of those pieces. Imagine if it:

1. Had a roof (to make the bunker).
2. Had a ramp (to make the landing pad).
3. Had Railguns (to make the turret emplacement).

I'll buy a half dozen!

**A Town Called Malus**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Imagine if that piece of Tau terrain did all three of those pieces. Imagine if it:

1. Had a roof (to make the bunker).
2. Had a ramp (to make the landing pad).
3. Had Railguns (to make the turret emplacement).

I'll buy a half dozen!

That would make me a happy bunny.

**Ledabot**

I hope that the people at gw are reading today. Having a piece of terrain that can be made into different things would be great. The only problem is what would I choose?

I like the sound of the skimmer/flyer. The mako is a good name I think. I didn't hear that there would be different kinds of vespid. I like the vespid aesthetically so a new group of models to the family would be awesome, so long as that they improve the vespid in general.

**adamsouza**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Imagine if that piece of Tau terrain did all three of those pieces. Imagine if it:

1. Had a roof (to make the bunker).
2. Had a ramp (to make the landing pad).
3. Had Railguns (to make the turret emplacement).
I'll buy a half dozen!

I'd be happy if it at least made the turret. It would take minimum modelling skills to turn that into a bunker or landing pad.

**MandalorynOranj**

This may be somewhat off-topic, but how great would it be if instead of White Dwarf releases, they just packaged the rules WITH the models like Privateer Press did?