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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
May as well enjoy the ride then. And they most likely will, cause you'll get Vets and new players buying them. They will likely look really cool, of that I have no doubt.

Who knows maybe some of the Chapters will be upset that they are being replaced by Guillstartes and one will do the unthinkable and join the Tau. (pls no)

I thought the same thing lol. What if those marines get sad at being outdated? Will they come here? Please no :(

Too late, time for Astartes with Pulse Weapons and shoulder mounted missile pods fighting the Guillstartes with their Mk X CalthPattern Armor and Ultra Pattern Boltrifles.

I think I feel faint.

 Rayvon wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Didn't we already kind of get that with the Custodes?

And y'know, this right here is kind of what I'm thinking we'll see.

40mm based "super" Astartes.

Good point, they have been lookīng for ways to bring more custodes to 40k

I've been thinking on the brief snippets we have, and something that occurs to me is this:

This might be another paradigm shift. Deathwatch were something implemented by Vulkan and the fledgling Inquisition during the War of the Beast. They needed quick, mobile teams that could operate independent of their Chapters.

Deathwatch 2.0 actually makes a kind of sense here. A new organization that can act as leaders and serve as inspiration to the Imperium in its darkest hour.

Voodoogroves wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
I'd actually like to see a new marine kit. As fun as endless waves of tacticals are, I'd like to see something new and different for them that isn't a tank or a flyer

...Or...possibly...an update to some of the tanks? How old is the Rhino, now? Ten, twelve years?

Over 10000 :-)

I have one or two that IRL are likely ... 25?

I think he means the latest design.
I got metal and plastic Rhino, Whirlwind and Vindicator - yours would be completely metal right?

More model options are only a good thing. I am sure that whatever they release, it will be an awesome kit, and will be amazing to model and paint.

That said, I would like to see non-Imperium factions get some more attention. What with Forge World taking care of Horus Heresy, the Imperium will be getitng plenty of attention there for a long while. Let's see some new Ork and Chaos stuff! How about some Kroot Mercenaries? Or maybe some Nid stuff?

 Verviedi wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
May as well enjoy the ride then. And they most likely will, cause you'll get Vets and new players buying them. They will likely look really cool, of that I have no doubt.

Who knows maybe some of the Chapters will be upset that they are being replaced by Guillstartes and one will do the unthinkable and join the Tau. (pls no)

I thought the same thing lol. What if those marines get sad at being outdated? Will they come here? Please no :(

Too late, time for Astartes with Pulse Weapons and shoulder mounted missile pods fighting the Guillstartes with their Mk X CalthPattern Armor and Ultra Pattern Boltrifles.

I think I feel faint.

You mean to tell me there is an issue with your Guilliseed Brother? Perhaps you should check with the Apothecaries.

Absolutely not!!!! There are too many imperium armies right now. A new SM chapter could be acceptable only if the general SM would vanish leaving only the specific chapters.

I always hope for a world without SM, but I know it's not gonna happen

Now more than ever we need a new Xenos faction. A completely new one with no ties to any of them. Perhaps battle brothers with Tau or something maybe not even that.

It's starting to feel very stifled creatively if every new thing revealed is Space Marine or IoM or from an existing faction.

If they change to a new mark of marines, i'm gonna be real pissed. The current marine is fine, and there is no need for any new SM releases.

 cuda1179 wrote:
At this point, no, we do NOT need more space marine kits. However, if they were to upgrade the marines in the future to make them slightly more true scale (without making older marines look like midgets) I'd support that. Keep them on the 32mm bases, just make them fill it out a bit more. Perhaps a 2% or 3% size increase.

On the flip side of this a lot of IG players would like new plastics that look less bulky than the current Catachans and Cadians. If IG had more human proportions and were slightly shorter that would also go a long way towards making SM look like the heavily armored superhumans they are supposed to be. (I certainly can't speak for all IG players, and have no idea what portion actually want this, this is just the impression I've gotten from Dakka.)

YES!

This game always needs an other kind of space marine.

Hastings said IG future is hazy if I recall. :( WHYYY! There are now almost no humans working to save themselves. Just space marines. It's an empire of marines at this point.

No. Also, no. Also, no. Also, no. Also, no. Also, no.

For feth's sake you have way too many goddamned marine codices as it is. You have your normal kind your blue kind your furry kind your emo kind your vampire kind your spiky kind your barfy kind your angry kind your garage band kind and so many others.

Wait, IG future is HAZY????? What the heck???? Every game needs a "normal" human faction. If they squat IG I'll loose it.

 Gamgee wrote:
Hastings said IG future is hazy if I recall.

Link? OTherwise this is a baseless rumor.

I swear I read it in the war for sigmar comments. He has been posting there a lot over the last day or so. Not hard to find. 76hastings.

I don't think they will squat them, but I got the impression they were having a hard time thinking of what to do.

 Gamgee wrote:
Not hard to find.

Then find it.

I actually like Space Marines. Heck, I even like Ultramarines. I really don't like it when the game mostly revolves around Space Marines and all Space Marines really wish they were Ultramarines.

I understand that Space Marines are popular and that being popular they're going to get more support in the form of books and models. However, at a certain point if there are a lot of books and great/available models for a certain faction and not much for others people are going to gravitate towards the faction that gets more support.

Orks are my favorite, and I think that their models are mostly excellent. The warbuggy/wartrakk could use an update, but even then it's not such a big deal as I can kitbash whatever I want to make things look good. It would nice to have new plastic IG and if there were plastic Sisters I'd probably pick them up as well. New CSM and plastic Apsect Warriors would also be better than new Space Marines.

So, if there's a new type of Space Marines I hope they're ridiculously cutesy Chibi Marines that fully replace standard space marines. They would be the perfect accompaniment to Reboot Godzillaman if he decides to make the Imperium reasonable again.

 Melissia wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Not hard to find.

Then find it.

At your service.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1777#disqus_thread

RanVor: So what will they make Imperial Guard seem like? The dirt under the boots?
75Hastings69: Meat for the grinder, same as they've always been. Empire equivalent maybe militia?

That does not inspire hope to me. Seems like par for the course on IG treatment. If they had plans for a big new army of IG or updates he would haev said. Look at all his other posts there and see how much info he is telling people on just about everything. I'm sorry Melissia... they're SOB'ed. I wish I had a better prognosis in these end of days. One bolter shell to the head to end the pain in each soldier and then treat the ones who are salvageable in Age of Emperor. A litany to the Emperor in these dark days for the next week.



Edit
The 40k community needs to learn a new term. SOB'ed. Sister of Battled'ed. Where you don't get updates or removed from the game anymore and exist in an update purgatory but sometimes make background apperances. The line will likely still be around to buy, but I doubt it will be updated. I don't even think the warhammer fantasy Empire has been updated in AoS and its been years. Just more and more sigmarines. So I don't think any factions with normal humans have updates in a loong time.

As much as I always appreciate new modelling options, would they FFS update some of their ageing sculpts before they develop new stuff. How old is the Abbadon sculpt? The most important baddie, and they haven't bothered their backsides, it's just plain strange. Also, plastic aspect warriors, and quickly. been waiting long enough.

 Gamgee wrote:
RanVor: So what will they make Imperial Guard seem like? The dirt under the boots?
75Hastings69: Meat for the grinder, same as they've always been. Empire equivalent maybe militia?

That's.. not what you said he said.

Your right I didn't remember it correctly. Still just infer a little. If space marines are getting kicked out for nu-marines then your telling me IG not being updated is impossible?

I never said it was. I merely asked for evidence.

I still find it unlikely. Guard are a core part of 40k lore. The "NuMarines" I even find dubious due to the young age of the fairly empty account making the comments. I know how Disqus works, it's very easy to spoof names. So we will see.

Hastings has an incredibly accurate rumor tracker on dakka 80% with over 110 true or something like that. It very well could be a fake account, but I doubt it.

The end of gathering storm 3 mentions new weapons of war and cawl and RG working on something and ends on a cliff hanger.

I kinda feel like this is some fever dream. GW did some great stuff with custodes, SOS and genestealer cults, but now...

Hopefully this is more like a new founding and to be fair, we are kinda acting like we are getting Primarch-marines.

Still...

this video feels appropriate again.

 Melissia wrote:
I never said it was. I merely asked for evidence.

I still find it unlikely. Guard are a core part of 40k lore. The "NuMarines" I even find dubious due to the young age of the fairly empty account making the comments. I know how Disqus works, it's very easy to spoof names. So we will see.

I think people are over reacting, most likely what we're going to see is a new mark of power armor, to accompany a new founding of space marines. the idea that they'll be better then marines seems... doubtful. to be frank, there's no reason to, space marines are their best selling product, phasing them out for something new seems silly. but doing a new mark of power armor, combined with an exciting new founding seems like an obvious project.

Hastings has been right about everything so far. He called Deathwatch a year and a half before anyone else. He specifically says they will be better in all ways.

 Gamgee wrote:
Hastings has been right about everything so far. He called Deathwatch a year and a half before anyone else. He specifically says they will be better in all ways.

sure except you're assuming that this'll be a radical change. thing is, a radical change to your most popular army is well.. stupid.

GW still has the old guard in it. It's still GW. They brought themselves to the cliffs before now. Is it so impossible they could mess up again?

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:

I am laughing so hard.

Until you realize that the Gullstartes are gonna start by clearing out the Tau Empire, its too close to Ultramar and cramping Based Robbie G's style.

Gullstartes

Idk I feel like the closer we get to the new edition the mania of what happened to fantasy is slowly reaching critical mass. No matter how many times GW tells us they won't pull another end times people still find ways around it.

A new super space marine? Can anyone seriously say that out loud without laughing? Space Marines are the elite of the elite, and grey knights/deathwatch are the elite of the elite of the elite, but the new SPACE MARINE KNIGHTS OF GUILLIMAN are the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite!

GW does stupid stuff, but here I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. They aren't that stupid. I don't care what percentage this guys crystal ball visions are, even the top ones have been wrong repeatedly. So many people have been making up nonsense with this new edition coming around the corner that speculation is pointless. I'm just waiting to see what comes out before I set fire to my collection.

edit: even 80% accuracy means 1 out of every 5 things coming out of your mouth is squig-gak.