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shadowsfm wrote:
yes, i just meant, bsf hasn't added any old figures yet
You mean new versions of old models, or hasn't added any existing models to the game? If you mean the latter, then yes it has, sadly...

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
shadowsfm wrote:
yes, i just meant, bsf hasn't added any old figures yet
You mean new versions of old models, or hasn't added any existing models to the game? If you mean the letter, then yes it has, sadly...


Didn't they also add in Ogryn? Specifically two ogryn from the generic 40k box set built in a specific way?


Edit: Yes, yes they did Gren and Dorg https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/19/the-sensational-ogryn-brothersgw-homepage-post-4/

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I think the idea was no non plastic models so far.
   
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Damn, I love using Jokaero and would definitely buy a new sculpt if it fit in stylistically with the existing model. I use two in my Inquisition detachment for 40K. I would add a third but three of the same pose doesn't appeal to me. Ifalna painted both of mine. One is black/grey and the other is more orangutan orange. The sculpts were nice in metal. Not sure if Finecast is as good. Hopefully GW will add a new model in BSF, 40K, or Kill Team.



The other minis were painted by me so they are not quite as pretty as the space apes.

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The secret to painting a really big army is to keep at it. You can't reach your destination if you never take any steps.

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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I think the idea was no non plastic models so far.


i'll go with this
   
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 cuda1179 wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
shadowsfm wrote:
yes, i just meant, bsf hasn't added any old figures yet
You mean new versions of old models, or hasn't added any existing models to the game? If you mean the letter, then yes it has, sadly...


Didn't they also add in Ogryn? Specifically two ogryn from the generic 40k box set built in a specific way?


Edit: Yes, yes they did Gren and Dorg https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/19/the-sensational-ogryn-brothersgw-homepage-post-4/


Also a Freebooter, and soon a Jokaero. However, I see boxed sets of recycling as worse than a WD article.

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GaroRobe wrote:
Jokaero is being added next, according to the White Dwarf. Sadly, it's using his current model, which means he probably won't get a new one in BSF. Which is a shame, since this game seems like the perfect chance to make a plastic monkey


If you don't play in GW shops there's always this guy!



https://www.reapermini.com/search/ape/sku-up/50214

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At seven bucks, that’s an easy buy when I’m at Adepticon!

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You could always use Judge Dredd Monkeys or Pulp City.



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The cover of the Zoat expansion Deadly Alliance is doing the rounds

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It doesn't. You need to be a member. Upload it to Dakka.

   
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Uploaded

It was also said the Zoat is going to be some kind of archivist, maybe even supporter of the players but I have no idea how reliable that is.

Looks like the box will be available to preorder soon

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Looking back at the original description of Zoats in Rogue Trader, they might be willing to be friendly if they are independent of Tyranid control. They might also be psychic.

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Warhams-77 wrote:
The cover of the Zoat expansion Deadly Alliance is doing the rounds

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For some reason, when I saw that it was called 'Deadly Alliance' for some reason this came to mind....





This sig was deemed too political for Dakka.
Meanwhile, Cato Sicarius is appearing on Alex Jones.
 
   
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Bummed that the Zoat's rules for Kill Team make it a wandering monster. I have 7 of them. I wanted to make a Kill Team of all Zoats.

Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Bummed that the Zoat's rules for Kill Team make it a wandering monster. I have 7 of them. I wanted to make a Kill Team of all Zoats.

No reason this still can't happen - takes a bit more writing effort this way though!
   
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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Bummed that the Zoat's rules for Kill Team make it a wandering monster. I have 7 of them. I wanted to make a Kill Team of all Zoats.


As another owner of several Zoats I expected something like this, even though they wrote:

Some other highlights include adding, get this, ZOATS to Kill Team


And of course the 40k rules will limit them to one model....

Maybe we should harrass them one Facebook.
   
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Are the Zoat rules viewable now?


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The secret to painting a really big army is to keep at it. You can't reach your destination if you never take any steps.

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 schoon wrote:
 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Bummed that the Zoat's rules for Kill Team make it a wandering monster. I have 7 of them. I wanted to make a Kill Team of all Zoats.

No reason this still can't happen - takes a bit more writing effort this way though!

I honestly don't play 40K much anymore. I'd bring my All Zoats Kill Team the same reason I wanted to make an All Squats Kill Team.


I imagine Zoats can proxy for Tyranid Warriors. Can I make a Kill Team of all Warriors? I don't care if it wins. Having a kill team of all Zoat models is an automatic win anyway.

Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

True Scale Space Marines: Tutorial, Posing, Conversions and other madness. The Brief and Humorous History of the Horus Heresy

 
   
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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
 schoon wrote:
 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Bummed that the Zoat's rules for Kill Team make it a wandering monster. I have 7 of them. I wanted to make a Kill Team of all Zoats.

No reason this still can't happen - takes a bit more writing effort this way though!

I honestly don't play 40K much anymore. I'd bring my All Zoats Kill Team the same reason I wanted to make an All Squats Kill Team.


I imagine Zoats can proxy for Tyranid Warriors. Can I make a Kill Team of all Warriors? I don't care if it wins. Having a kill team of all Zoat models is an automatic win anyway.
That’s how I use mine. I think when you consider all the crucial characteristics it’s the only real choice. I keep hoping GW makes them another full Nid allied faction in 40k
   
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My gaming group is thinking of getting an expansion for BSF (we've already got the Ambull one and the card-only ones). Do any of them add anything interesting to the discovery deck (as far as I can tell, only Traitor Command even has new discovery cards) or introduce interesting new gameplay mechanics?

   
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Zoat hits pre-order next week, and is Henchmen type!

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Deadly Alliance costs 50 EUR (same price as Traitor Command and No Respite)

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/24/blackstone-fortress-return-of-the-zoatgw-homepage-post-4/

Alternate Title: Zoat Trek 2: the Wrath of Retcon

So the Zoats were likely never tyranid creatures at all. Wooo!

Um. I kind of like that, to be honest (it makes the universe bigger, in the same way that genestealers being tyranids made it smaller), but... stomping this hard on the nostalgia button to sell a single model while decreeing that the nostalgia is factually wrong is some serious cognitive dissonance territory.

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 JB wrote:
Looking back at the original description of Zoats in Rogue Trader, they might be willing to be friendly if they are independent of Tyranid control. They might also be psychic.

Spoiler:



And people say the new fluff is badly written...

Consider; Games Workshop rules not so much games but as toolboxes for players to craft an experience from, and open/narrative/matched play just examples of how things can be put together. 
   
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Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/24/blackstone-fortress-return-of-the-zoatgw-homepage-post-4/

Alternate Title: Zoat Trek 2: the Wrath of Retcon

So the Zoats were likely never tyranid creatures at all. Wooo!

Um. I kind of like that, to be honest (it makes the universe bigger, in the same way that genestealers being tyranids made it smaller), but... stomping this hard on the nostalgia button to sell a single model while decreeing that the nostalgia is factually wrong is some serious cognitive dissonance territory.
To be honest given that the information was Zoats were Hive Mind diplomats sent out to find and incorporate smart creatures peacefully into the Tyranid hive mind to expand and grow.. Yeah that fluff wasn't going to last.
   
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The most recent Zoat lore was courtesy of Regimental Standard, where the Imperium claimed to have bravely fought off the Zoats, who tried to deceive them that "Something bad was coming and we're only fleeing" aka the Tyranids are coming, but the Imperium was too smart for them, and bravely killed the xenos before they could invade the Imperium.

"Come on men, their white flag is no use against our muskets!"

But it also ties into the older Zoat lore about some fleeting from the Nids, so it could still work for Rogue Trade era purist.
   
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Regimental Standard is a series of too-on-the-nose jokes, not lore.

Unless, of course, you think the Commissariat is really cluelessly recruiting for Magnus.
https://regimental-standard.com/2020/01/08/unlock-your-prosperity/

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Also, tyranids used to have access to squigs, and from my recall, zoats were never fully integrated tyranid creatures. The exact detail of how they weren't fully integrated can be flexed as much as required to tell a.good story.

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Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/24/blackstone-fortress-return-of-the-zoatgw-homepage-post-4/

Alternate Title: Zoat Trek 2: the Wrath of Retcon

So the Zoats were likely never tyranid creatures at all. Wooo!

Um. I kind of like that, to be honest (it makes the universe bigger, in the same way that genestealers being tyranids made it smaller), but... stomping this hard on the nostalgia button to sell a single model while decreeing that the nostalgia is factually wrong is some serious cognitive dissonance territory.



I’m not seeing any retcon there.
I’m seeing a huge part that states they are mysterious and unknown, but nothing that changed their old fluff.
Visually yes, it’s changed a fair bit in design, most notably its weapons.
   
 
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