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The misadventure continues.

This is the first match I saw, last time it was on I was busy playing Confrontation. Obviously I was missing nothing if tonights performance was anything to go by. The match was entertaining only as a matter of disbelief at how utterly crap the England team are playing.
I am no football officionado but even I could tell that something was amiss. The Algerians, yes Algerians were dancing around England players who looked painfully clumsy.
It was a no score draw, however if the score was what it deserved to be Algeria would have won by two or three goals, and no consolation goal to the England side.

Hi Orlanth

Please could you edit the title
"England pee pee drip drops" or some such to more acurately reflect the pathetic drizzle that have the temerity to wear the Three Lions.

Team they ain't.

Sorry you chose this one to watch. Abyssmal.

Fairly typical of England performances at international tournaments latterly. Insipid, devoid of heart, determination, creativity and drive. I feel sorry for the hard working fans that have literally stumped up £££s to fly there and watch that dross.

The best part was that I got to spend several hours at work doing very little, whilst everyone else watched a gakky football game

I thought Rooney was hungry?

It just angers me that we don't have a manager with the balls to sub off the big name players if they aren't performing. Roney did next to nothing all match appart from a few link ups with Gerrard which came to nothing. He was clearly struggling and should have come off.
For me Crouch and Joe Cole should have started in favour of Heskey and Lennon. Defensively we weren't too bad appart from Johnson who looked to be struggling with some of the pacier Algerian players. For me Barry and Carragher were our best players on the night and credit has to go to the Algerians for not allowing us to pick up an easy win with a poor performance.
I still don't think we have anywhere near a good enough team to go past the quarter finals. Thats if we are lucky enough to get there and judging by Slovenia's performances we wont.

Come on England, you can and should be doing better, show some respect and pride for your supporters and the country you represent. Pull your bloody fingers out.

Perhaps it is the wearing of white shirts which is the problem?

Give them red jackets and they will own the game. And possibly take the other team home as slaves, though that is a chance we will have to take in order to win!

has anyone missed me? I was busy saying we were spank a fortnight ago..

Stating the blindingly self evident cuts no ice with the Dakka crowd Matty

Did anyone else here the David James interview on % Live after the game?

OOH scratch yer eyes out. They'll be calling him "The Cat" but not for his agility between the sticks!
Subtle, but sarky!

Orlanth wrote:busy playing Confrontation.

SOCOM?

Also my English friend was literally in tears over the US-ENG game.

That is by far the worst I have ever seen Rooney play. I have no clue how he remained on the pitch. Poor first touch, feet glued to the ground, poor passing, chickening out of tackles, mistiming those he had the guts for, missing headers...

Awful awful awful. No-one else could have played that badly and stayed on the pitch.

As for having the temerity to have a go at the fans... Well, Wayne, sorry, but when you have the worst game of your multi-million pound career, the paying fans will boo you. Get you used to it, and get over your sense of entitlement to cheers when you are playing gak.

The end is nigh.


Seriously.

Borkin wrote:

Orlanth wrote:busy playing Confrontation.

SOCOM?

Nah, Rackham Confrontation: Griffin vs Wolfen vs Scorpion three way battle 3000pt game. To me a hell of a lot more interesting than a football match. I watched todays match because I was sitting having tea with a neighbour who was watching.



Same factions as in the pictures taken. Basically Empire vs Werewolves vs Slaanesh.

Borkin wrote:
Also my English friend was literally in tears over the US-ENG game.

My feelings of remorse when England get kicked out will have ebbed to an all time low this year. I am geting innured to football that even a firece jingoism cannot rally any feeling for my national side anymore. This is reinfroced by how the gutter press keep treating our players like they were gods or at least heroes. The Sun called tonights match the Battle of Britain, another tabloid compared four of the team to the 'fab four' with Beatles haircuts. I found the hype laughable when watching the match. Had Algeria scored I would not have minded at all, honestly halfway through th second half I was expecting them to.

England will never be any good. As long as the players are worried about being injured, and losing money at club level

Well playing Confrontation sure looks a better way of passing the time.

Would advise arranging a game for next Wednesday, but not certain of the KO time.

A game of footie compared to the Battle of Britain?
At least only 13 players "died" on the pitch tonight.
Don't worry Orlanth the press will be hailing the same heroes as villians tomorrow. It's always the same.
England are either going to conquer all or are the biggest pile of gakk depending on the result.

As much as i hate football; tonight was pathetic. Having watched the USA game with a couple of American friends who aren't even bothered about 'soccer'I felt ashamed to be supporting the British team...

It seemed as if we had eleven players who were not interested in getting a win; just eleven players who were trying to make sure their multi-million pound contracts would still be there when the next transfer window rolls around. I wish I was American. The guts and determination they showed in their earlier match was breathtaking; Consider me a USA fan for the rest of the cup...

Talk about fair weather supporters

You'll be sorry when Algeria hold the USA to a deadly dull 0-0 draw and England scrape a jammy last minute winner!

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Talk about fair weather supporters

You'll be sorry when Algeria hold the USA to a deadly dull 0-0 draw and England scrape a jammy last minute winner!

Actually, I'll feel gutted if that happens. The USA have been the most entertaining team to watch so far; i really hope they get to the knockout stages at the expense of England (who have been the prozac of the World Cup so far).

USA USA USA!

You are mistaking Prozac for a sedative I think?
Prozac is actually an anti-depressant, whereas England are just depressing!

The two teams that ought to go through from the group stage on merit, so far, would be Slovenia and USA.

Typical England group stage performance except they didnt sneak a lucky goal as usually happens.

What should happen now is beat Slovenia 1-0, face Germany play a blinder and loose. Thats the way world cups always play out.

But even by England's group stage standards that was an abomination, so lazy no desire to chase after the ball. Constantly giving it away and just giving up when they did. Rooney was shocking, particularly when he let an Algerian toe poke of a clearance slowly roll past him in the box while he stood there like some balding over-priced statue.

We waited 4 years for this

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:You are mistaking Prozac for a sedative I think?
Prozac is actually an anti-depressant, whereas England are just depressing!

The two teams that ought to go through from the group stage on merit, so far, would be Slovenia and USA.

Correct. But i was making reference more to the side effects of Prozac; which include depression, suicidal tendencies, and a weird belief that you can make your gak of a life into something better just by popping a pill (reading the Sun).

I would love to see the USA go through: They have been the most impressive team in the group, and if it wasn't for their coach reverting to a defensive formation when they scored the second goal, they would have won their last match!

Gotchya!

They were so unlucky with the disallowed goal.
Can't see England beating Slovenia on current form so it's up to them to beat Algeria, which they should be capable of.

If both games are drawn, that puts USA and England on 3 points, but haven't seen the tables, but at present USA have scored more goals.

If Algeria win and England draw, Algeria will go through.
England have botched things up in grand style
They had one of the better qualifying records coming into the finals so what the are they doing now?

Pulling for the USA to at least tie.... Of course a USA win and an England win still reverts to the goals.
Think England needs to wake up, grow a few, tell their wives to go home, and concentrate on the task at hand.... so to speak.

England are using their old trick of having a lot of good players and not playing well as a team.

kinda like a "dream team?' the last few of those the US had played more like a nightmare.

And to think, just the day before I was laughing at how bad France are...

Just because we have a load of good players doesn't mean we won't play well, many other teams have many great players and still work together. We've had plenty of time to prepare for the world cup, but they haven't showed us the team they can be, and have been in training and practice.

Rooney stayed on as he's England's talisman, he's almost certainly our best player and definately our best striker. I can understand leaving him on, but I can equally understand substituting him, the problem is, we rely too much on this one man, if he gets man-marked then we have a problem.

What I really don't get is Capello's reluctance to change things. It was clear it wasn't working after the 1st half but he doesn't change anything. Worst of all, he puts Gerrard on the right?! He's our captain and best midfielder and he's on the right?!

I think one of the better solutions would be swapping out Lampard (constantly crap) for Joe Cole and then moving Gerrard back into the centre to play more attacking whilst Barry covers the defence.
Similarly, now Carragher's gonna miss the next game, so I reckon Dawson who has a bit more speed and a good long ball, should replace him.

Well, on the bright side, James did well.

Especially in his interview after the game on 5 Live!
Capello's insistence on naming the team 2 hours before the game is weird.

Many have questioned this. IMHO it may be that it worked at club level where the players are work together more often and have greater familiarity with each others' play.

At International level with a lot of players not regularly playing together it is not such a good idea.

The problem is not the ability to pass a long ball, Dave. Though it sure helps. This tourney ball is hard to hit over distance accurately by the sound of it. But some passing ability would be no bad thing.

A problem England always seem to suffer from is playing the ball long from defence or just hoofing clearances up field. The teams that do well have the ability to play the ball to midfield with composure, even under pressure.

It is the same old story with England. Listening on the radio, it was a constant litany of: poor first touch, poor pass, poor cross, the ball didn't get past the first man, poor finishing, poor delivery from set pieces. Our technical ability is just not good enough on an individual level. When you couple that with the lack of understanding between players and apparent lack of passion we ain't got a chocolate's chance in a chick flick.

To add insult to the injury, I believe that Capello is the highest paid international manager in the world. £6m!!

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:
Capello's insistence on naming the team 2 hours before the game is weird.

Capello is trying to stack the cards in his favour. My announcing the team, only two hours before the match it keeps the opposition guessing as to who they are facing. Sounds plausible, however England is full of little tricks like that to show 'quality'. However its all hype. So you have this player in this position, so what, that only makes a difference if they are as good as they are hyped to be. They arent and never were.

Most teams dont care who they are facing instead their idea of quality is working together practicing and being ready to face whatever comes out of the box. I doubt the Algerians put much thought into who they were facing, as if it mattered. It doesnt they went out to play and win.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:
A problem England always seem to suffer from is playing the ball long from defence or just hoofing clearances up field. The teams that do well have the ability to play the ball to midfield with composure, even under pressure.

The real problem was that they were not playing attention, playerrs attempted to pass and found the receiver was not ready, they lost the ball consistently to simple tackles.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:
To add insult to the injury, I believe that Capello is the highest paid international manager in the world. £6m!!

Its about time we took an axe to football salaries.

I watched the game, and I agree, England played awfully. Why do they play so good in the PL and so bad
in the World Cup?

Because they're a bunch of nonchalant superstars, that's why.
Sorry England, this World Cup will belong to Argentina and Germany.

( But I feel sorry about Robert Green, England deserved that game, even though their play was gak)

squilverine wrote:It just angers me that we don't have a manager with the balls to sub off the big name players if they aren't performing. Roney did next to nothing all match appart from a few link ups with Gerrard which came to nothing. He was clearly struggling and should have come off.
For me Crouch and Joe Cole should have started in favour of Heskey and Lennon. Defensively we weren't too bad appart from Johnson who looked to be struggling with some of the pacier Algerian players. For me Barry and Carragher were our best players on the night and credit has to go to the Algerians for not allowing us to pick up an easy win with a poor performance.
I still don't think we have anywhere near a good enough team to go past the quarter finals. Thats if we are lucky enough to get there and judging by Slovenia's performances we wont.

Come on England, you can and should be doing better, show some respect and pride for your supporters and the country you represent. Pull your bloody fingers out.

Agreed with pretty much all of this.

I'm England through and through. I'm not gonna lie. But that performance last night was just awful. What happened to the team in qualifying?

People might think I stick up for the team out of blind patriotism, but we looked like world-beaters during qualifying at times. We have genuinely good players.

What the feth has happened to them? Rooney in particular looked like a fat, bald sunday league player last night, but when he's on his game he's unplayable. He literally runs rings around the opposition.


Why can't they get 'up for it', when millions of blokes up and down the country would kill to get the chance to wear the shirt?