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Well, each PAGK is the equivalent of a SM sarge w/power sword and storm bolter- something costing 44 points.
5 marines=90
1 marine=16
16x4=64
64-90=26
26+15 (power sword)+3 (SB)=41pts.
looking at it that way they're pretty damn good for 20pts.


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so wait, i just glanced over this, but do you know who is writing this??

Same list, different army

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necronsftw wrote:so wait, i just glanced over this, but do you know who is writing this??

I believe it's Cruddace, the guy who wrote the IG and Tyranid codices. At least, the Blood of Kittens rumours suggest they think so. Nobody else has his... enthusiasm for >10 shot weapons outside Apocalypse.

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AlexHolker wrote:
necronsftw wrote:so wait, i just glanced over this, but do you know who is writing this??

I believe it's Cruddace, the guy who wrote the IG and Tyranid codices. At least, the Blood of Kittens rumours suggest they think so. Nobody else has his... enthusiasm for >10 shot weapons outside Apocalypse.


If grey knights end up like a horde army....
   
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They wont, that would be ridiculous and impossible.
   
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Jaon wrote:They wont, that would be ridiculous and impossible.


good point... but if GKT end up like the carnifex....
   
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I really hope all this happens because I feel like the fluff of days gone by keeps getting dumber and less interesting as much more effort is being placed on building the most overpowered lists and units that can possibly be fielded. These guys have the most deep and interesting fluff around as far as I'm concerned.

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I agree, I wish armies would stop taking a powerhike. and Yeah, 4th edition fluff was way more grimdark, hell just compare the rulebooks. Theres no big murals in the 5th depicting epic battles and inquisitors with implants and you could read about the age of apostasy and the age of strife and the heresy in detail it was all so much better.

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Talk still points to March 2011 for this one. (Later talk now points to April/May with Orks being released in March)


Wait, can someone tell me what is going on with the Orks?

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BlutEisenRegel wrote:

Talk still points to March 2011 for this one. (Later talk now points to April/May with Orks being released in March)


Wait, can someone tell me what is going on with the Orks?


That should read Orcs. As in new Armies book for Fantasy.

If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!

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UltraPrime wrote:
BlutEisenRegel wrote:

Talk still points to March 2011 for this one. (Later talk now points to April/May with Orks being released in March)


Wait, can someone tell me what is going on with the Orks?


That should read Orcs. As in new Armies book for Fantasy.



Oh ok gotcha. Thanks.

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I want my 60pt (each) GKT with a 2++ save, 2 wounds and FNP
   
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Jaon wrote:They wont, that would be ridiculous and impossible.


You do realise this is Cruddace we are talking about.
   
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I wouldn't mind that either - it would make for a great "counts as" marine in an Alpha Legion Operatives army!
   
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I would rather them be 50points

Same list, different army

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necronsftw wrote:I would rather them be 50points


fnp and an extra would for 10 more pts would be good...
   
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well onsider the fact that a normale terminator cost 40 points you pay like 200 points for a 5 man squad

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Alpharius wrote:I wouldn't mind that either - it would make for a great "counts as" marine in an Alpha Legion Operatives army![/quote

For the love of god, you want to proxy Grey Knights as CHAOS?!




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I have no idea why that quote screwed up...

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Alpha Legion as Traitors?

No way!
   
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Jaon wrote:
Alpharius wrote:I wouldn't mind that either - it would make for a great "counts as" marine in an Alpha Legion Operatives army!


For the love of god, you want to proxy Grey Knights as CHAOS?!

I have no idea why that quote screwed up...


need to put a ] on the quote

Alpharius wrote:Alpha Legion as Traitors?

No way!


Well its because Alpha legion sucks and Grey knights dont (ignoring the fact that no grey knight has ever fallen to chaos and their entire existence is based around destroying chaos )
   
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The Alpha Legion is a lot like the A-Team comprised of Cylons, but instead of have A Plan, they have The Plan.

Unfortunately, their "We're going to destroy chaos because that's what the Emperor ultimately wants even it if means the destruction of Humanity-the Emperor's chosen people to bring it about" will uh, well end up with the destruction of Humanity to bring about the end of Chaos.

Suddenly, the Imperial Party Line of "Don't trust the Xenos," isn't so bad. And by that logic, shouldn't they be teaming up with the Necrons, who are against the Warp and whose penchant for killing all Life (sentient life feeds the warp by my understanding-it's like the Force but grimdark) Reaper style?

And really assume they succeed-eventually Chaos would rise again millions of years later.

Well its because Alpha legion sucks and Grey knights dont (ignoring the fact that no grey knight has ever fallen to chaos and their entire existence is based around destroying chaos )


Quite so. That's why I like the Grey Knights so much. The only thing better are Custodates, and the best list to play them with is the Movie Space Marine list.

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Trevak Dal wrote:The Alpha Legion is a lot like the A-Team comprised of Cylons, but instead of have A Plan, they have The Plan.

Unfortunately, their "We're going to destroy chaos because that's what the Emperor ultimately wants even it if means the destruction of Humanity-the Emperor's chosen people to bring it about" will uh, well end up with the destruction of Humanity to bring about the end of Chaos.

Suddenly, the Imperial Party Line of "Don't trust the Xenos," isn't so bad. And by that logic, shouldn't they be teaming up with the Necrons, who are against the Warp and whose penchant for killing all Life (sentient life feeds the warp by my understanding-it's like the Force but grimdark) Reaper style?

And really assume they succeed-eventually Chaos would rise again millions of years later.


I thought they were along the lines of human's are going to suffer so if we kill them off there will be less suffering because we care about you guys like that.
   
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OK, On Topic (sort of): The GK codex will make an excellent 'counts as' Alpha Legion Operative army because...

1) The Marines are going to be rock hard (as they should be), expensive (so, fewer in number) and, hopefully, hard to kill.

2) You'll actually be able to represent the human operatives/cells/etc. due to the fact that Guard type troops and tanks will be in the Codex! Ever since the "cultist' option went the way of the Dodo, there hasn't been a way to do this...

As for the other bit, we have NO IDEA what exactly the Legion is up to. My opinion is that they are going to try and do for the Cabal as they're going to try to do for Horus/Chaos - but that in the end they're a bit too clever by half.
   
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Alpharius wrote:OK, On Topic (sort of): The GK codex will make an excellent 'counts as' Alpha Legion Operative army because...

1) The Marines are going to be rock hard (as they should be), expensive (so, fewer in number) and, hopefully, hard to kill.

2) You'll actually be able to represent the human operatives/cells/etc. due to the fact that Guard type troops and tanks will be in the Codex! Ever since the "cultist' option went the way of the Dodo, there hasn't been a way to do this...

As for the other bit, we have NO IDEA what exactly the Legion is up to. My opinion is that they are going to try and do for the Cabal as they're going to try to do for Horus/Chaos - but that in the end they're a bit too clever by half.


This is actually what I'm most excited about for the codex. Another army of elite Marine type guys is kind of cool, but being able to field gaggles of weirdos and freaks is what really gets me hyped. That is, if those rumors are true. Last I checked they're the only ones I'd want to be true!

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I know it's probably lame, but having played against endless BA and SW lists I certainly hope that there's something in this codex that makes their players look at me in disgust, grab my codex to double check a special rule, then roll their eyes and say ..

"Jesus! That's freakin broken."


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Alpharius wrote:OK, On Topic (sort of): The GK codex will make an excellent 'counts as' Alpha Legion Operative army because...

1) The Marines are going to be rock hard (as they should be), expensive (so, fewer in number) and, hopefully, hard to kill.

2) You'll actually be able to represent the human operatives/cells/etc. due to the fact that Guard type troops and tanks will be in the Codex! Ever since the "cultist' option went the way of the Dodo, there hasn't been a way to do this...

As for the other bit, we have NO IDEA what exactly the Legion is up to. My opinion is that they are going to try and do for the Cabal as they're going to try to do for Horus/Chaos - but that in the end they're a bit too clever by half.


that sounds like an awesome army concept and you should totally do that. Even a powered armour =][= could be a counts as A Legion and have a retinue of freaks with him, could be a lot of potential there for modelling fluff etc

I have been getting the Legio Custodes itch lately and I think they would be an awesome way to do that as well.
Basically I think this codex sounds like a marine dex for people who like to model and try weird/different themes. Whether or not it can hang with the like of IG SW etc we have to see.

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Thunderfrog wrote:I know it's probably lame, but having played against endless BA and SW lists I certainly hope that there's something in this codex that makes their players look at me in disgust, grab my codex to double check a special rule, then roll their eyes and say ..

"Jesus! That's freakin broken."


I6 power weapons on every unit?

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Thunderfrog wrote:I know it's probably lame, but having played against endless BA and SW lists I certainly hope that there's something in this codex that makes their players look at me in disgust, grab my codex to double check a special rule, then roll their eyes and say ..

"Jesus! That's freakin broken."


I6 power weapons on every unit?


I6 instant death weapons on every unit

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