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2011/02/24 21:53:23
Subject: Re:Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/24 - need advice on pod color)
I did find a decent example of the re-entry burns on a drop pod by petergollum.
It would seem that using an airbrush to paint a metal underskin coating, then doing almost like a directional highlight with a dark grey, or a black wash might give you a similar effect.
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2011/02/24 22:28:32
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/24 - need advice on pod color)
Thanks btemple0, that's helpful. I did finally figure out how to apply my weathering powders when I was tweaking the damage on that last dreadnought & I'm sure I can use the same techniques to get the proper streaking. Looks like any leading or projecting edges or edges after a gap that would produce friction would be recipients of the scorch marks...
Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
If there is no intention of using them for the vets then go for green. I don't actually see the need for any colour other than green. I think that (time allowing) a combination of battle damage, the proposed hazard stripes (sparingly) and the scorch marks may actually be enough in this case.
I've still not managed to master the airbrush myself but my guess is the majority of the green will go on first and then any secondary colour. I think it's that point you have to make the decision really.
Taff
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2011/02/25 00:35:32
Subject: Rebuilding the Mantis Warriors (2/24 - need advice on pod color)
Taff, you must have missed the earlier discussion. The pods in this case will be used for the tranquility units (exclusively), but an earlier discussion decided that given the position of the tranquility vets in my fluff and the fire-and-forget nature of the pods, it is highly unlikely that the pods would be given the same treatment as the veterans themselves. Thus green pods even for the tranquility veterans.
I'm confident I can do a decent job on the airbrushing... perhaps even some zenithal effects while I'm at it.
Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
A full mantis army shot would be nice, but maybe when more stuff is done?
Also are you rising this army past Adepticon, and if so what is the 1850-2000pt list, or the 3000pt (etc. depending on how addicted you gotten to the army) planned, or is it not and just what ever units strike your fancy.
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Have you seen the hairspray style of weathering Gits? Basically base layer, erratic hairspray then top coats. Then you can wipe and get more of a gradual 'fade' effect for continual wear and tear. It's used pretty heavily for WWII tank weathering. Will look up a linky so you can have a look at it.. it'd look awesome for entry burn and paint stripping.
@Sage: I have the army I'm shooting for somewhere... it's big with multiple elements to be explored so I have options... though it will follow a general theme and there will be several specific builds within it. Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that... there's two armies separated in time by 100 years. One, a mechanized Badab War army, the second a post-crusade, non-mechanized force with all modern equipment, the chapterhouse pads and BLACKHAND's custom pieces.
As I said before... do you want a shot of the progress on just the Adepticon (1000 pt) build or do you want a shot of everything that I've painted?
@Monkeh: I've heard of that but have never tried it.. would be interested in seeing what you can find.
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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
Gitsplitta wrote:
As I said before... do you want a shot of the progress on just the Adepticon (1000 pt) build or do you want a shot of everything that I've painted?
Maybe a shot of each army, it could get confusing to have them together, or maybe a shot of them together, then one of post-crusade, and one of the badab war?
so if i get this right, the entire 1000pt army now is for the post-crusade army, and the badab war army will be other units?
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Sageheart wrote:Maybe a shot of each army, it could get confusing to have them together, or maybe a shot of them together, then one of post-crusade, and one of the badab war?
so if i get this right, the entire 1000pt army now is for the post-crusade army, and the badab war army will be other units?
Thats flipped Sage, the 1000 point army he is building is pre-crusade. Everything else will be post Badab War.
Oo do you guess remember that one opst on page 3 good times good times. a 113 poages allready wow
back on topic Git why dont you paint them like your razorbacks? it seems logical too me that all the vehicles in the army look the same. but thats just my 2 cents
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@fatty: Yeah, that's kind of what I was planning on, though I'm not sure that yellow doors will really work, but that style of green is what I was planning on.
I think I can finish, or nearly finish the last two sternguard today... The yellow and lining are done and I'm working on the detail painting, to be followed by the camo & basing. When they're complete I will take the army shots as I will have reached a major milestone at that point.
Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
Let me summarize: I'm rebuilding my 20-year-old Mantis Warrior army. My original idea was to do an army after the return of the chapter from it's 100 year crusade, and to this end things were moving apace. However, I then had the foolish idea to go to Adepticon with a team called "The Wardens of the Maelstrom" based on the 4 rebelling chapters of the Badab War and based at the time of the Badab War. This completely de-railed my post crusade army and has instead involved 4 solid months of completely obsessive painting of RT era figures (wherever possible). I am coming down to the wire and still have a ton of things to build and paint. But all hope is not yet lost...
That pretty much sums it up.
Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."
Oh I guess I completely missed that part . I thought you were still doing a post crusade army. I kept waiting for you to add new stuff to army. The "Rebuilding" stuff .
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I am leaning hard towards the green, green, green, and some green.
Add in the yellow and black warning hazard stripes, metallic details, re-entry markings, and I think you're all set.
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Actually one interesting little tip from the FW tank masterclass that I forgot to pass on is the use of one of their newer weathering powders (effectively ground up pencil lead).
Gently rubbing this over any colour will make it look like you've got a coloured metal with some tiny tiny chips showing through. He'd used it on some plates of ork battlewagons to make the blue plates look like they had metal showing through patchy paintwork, but it might be useful to create an interesting look to parts of the pods
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. I thought you were still doing a post crusade army. I kept waiting for you to add new stuff to army. The "Rebuilding" stuff 
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