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From Warseer, from the mouth..well... alright, keyboard then, of the ever reliable Mr. Hastings [ who also now runs DP Gaming an online webstore you should all support [/cheap plug]

IIRC more DE (Talos & Cronos plastic kit, plastic Venom, plastic Voidraven & other aircraft kit, plastic Scourges, plus quite a few metal kits )are due out before GK, so later than that (Edit: Meaning after March, so I assume April).

..so, early 2nd quarter 2011 it seems then. Which is good news.

Scourges huh?

...what a releif, I was thinking they were going to have to be converted.

I assume ..well.. hope anyway... that this kit will go some way towards providing weapon options for Trueborn and the like -- we should get a decent amount of shard carbines at least anyway.

Sounds great except if true this confirms no plastic wracks

kenshin620 wrote:Sounds great except if true this confirms no plastic wracks

Or grotesques

Oh, how I wish the fighter and bomber were coming out earlier.

I'm really not very good at scratch-building.

reds8n wrote: I assume ..well.. hope anyway... that this kit will go some way towards providing weapon options for Trueborn and the like -- we should get a decent amount of shard carbines at least anyway.

I am incapable of waiting. I will be converting my shard carbines.

Didn't Jes mention Haemonculus and their creations are being made and release for mid next year in those interviews they did?

I am going to have to start collecting DE, already impulse bought some kabalites...

Mewiththeface wrote:Didn't Jes mention Haemonculus and their creations are being made and release for mid next year in those interviews they did?

Well if they are part of the 2nd wave then besides the Engines, they'll be metal. No real reason on separating the release to a Wave 2 and a Wave 2.1

That would suck... wracks and grotesques sound perfect for plastic...

MajorTom11 wrote:That would suck... wracks and grotesques sound perfect for plastic...

Seriously? How so? They sound really complex and non-standard. How is that good for plastic?

Wraithguard = Good for plastic

Hive Tyrant - good for plastic

IG Storm Troopers = Good for plastic

Wracks and Grotesques? hmm...

Yarr.

According to White Dwarf Interviews, Jes has stated the next batch are Haemonculi related, so one would also assume an actual Haemonculi metal or some such. Ditto Wracks and Grotesques. Ah well, just need to wait and see.

Scottywan82 wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:That would suck... wracks and grotesques sound perfect for plastic...

Seriously? How so? They sound really complex and non-standard. How is that good for plastic?

Wraithguard = Good for plastic

Hive Tyrant - good for plastic

IG Storm Troopers = Good for plastic

Wracks and Grotesques? hmm...

From a purely selfish perspective, complex and non-standard , I would rather they were plastic so I don't have to spend hours pinning, filing and supergluing my fingers in frustration trying to get the bloody things to stick.

Scottywan82 wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:That would suck... wracks and grotesques sound perfect for plastic...

Seriously? How so? They sound really complex and non-standard. How is that good for plastic?

Wraithguard = Good for plastic

Hive Tyrant - good for plastic

IG Storm Troopers = Good for plastic

Wracks and Grotesques? hmm...

Yeah, Try building Urien. 7 small limbs.

Haemonculis and wracks and such sound great for plastic because they are different parts of different things Which means there should be more than 1 way to build a model. Make them very convertible.

Yeah, Urien was a pain to assemble. Don't really want to even play with him as I know some of the little arms will come off. Going by how the art for Grots and Wracks is, with the wild bone structures coming off their back, I pray they are Plastic!

Complex and non-standard is good for plastic so you can easily mix and match, convert, have ease of assembly, no 2 units have to look exactly alike... That's exactly what plastic is good for IMHO lol

Yes, but my point is that complex and non-standard tend to NOT be made into plastic figures. So why would you expect them to be now?

I want it now!

Aren't Scourges Haemonculli related? (i.e. lots of surgery required) Thus they would fit into a Haemonculli themed release.

Possessed? Chaos mutation sprue? I dunno you are right in general they tend not to, but it's not impossible either. Would be a great addition to the mutation sprue and for LATD and converting all kinds of stuff judging by the concept art.

Anyhood, i'd still love to see em in plastic!

Scottywan82 wrote:Yes, but my point is that complex and non-standard tend to NOT be made into plastic figures. So why would you expect them to be now?

Some miniatures are fairly complex and non-standard, like the chaos spawn and the sanguinary guard. Monstrous creatures, like the Raveners, Ogres, Trolls, and Rat Ogres have been done in plastic, so I'd expect at least Wracks to be plastic.

Yeah, but they also did Minotaurs in plastic and look at how they turned out...

...on the other hand, the metal ones weren't much better...

...and we can trust in Jes.

Ah, So plastic Scourges! I had a feeling there were going to be in metal, oh well.

I guess some characters, Wracks and Grotesques are going to hit the metal. Too bad.

yeah,

plastic Venom, plastic Voidraven & other aircraft kit, plastic Scourges...

WAnt now! damn it!

PAnic...

Flashman wrote:...and we can trust in Jes.

Yes, we can

The Minotaurs were particularly ugly, and IMO don't look half as good as the beastmen miniatures... They were quite the letdown. But then again, look at IoB, or if you want complex multi-part, the Skaven Doomwheel.

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:Ah, So plastic Scourges! I had a feeling there were going to be in metal, oh well.

I guess some characters, Wracks and Grotesques are going to hit the metal. Too bad.

Plastic Scourges actually make quite a bit of sense. Consider that the models are described as wearing "Ghostplate" and wielding Shardcarbines, if the wings aren't directly attached to the main "body" of the Scourge, they'd make fantastic Kabalite Trueborn!

Kanluwen wrote:

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:Ah, So plastic Scourges! I had a feeling there were going to be in metal, oh well.

I guess some characters, Wracks and Grotesques are going to hit the metal. Too bad.

Plastic Scourges actually make quite a bit of sense. Consider that the models are described as wearing "Ghostplate" and wielding Shardcarbines, if the wings aren't directly attached to the main "body" of the Scourge, they'd make fantastic Kabalite Trueborn!

Expect Trueborn don't wear ghostplate only the leader upgrade Dacon can. Now they would still look cool as Trueborn stand in's but would be too early to tell.

Darkwynn wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:Ah, So plastic Scourges! I had a feeling there were going to be in metal, oh well.

I guess some characters, Wracks and Grotesques are going to hit the metal. Too bad.

Plastic Scourges actually make quite a bit of sense. Consider that the models are described as wearing "Ghostplate" and wielding Shardcarbines, if the wings aren't directly attached to the main "body" of the Scourge, they'd make fantastic Kabalite Trueborn!

Expect Trueborn don't wear ghostplate only the leader upgrade Dacon can. Now they would still look cool as Trueborn stand in's but would be too early to tell.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the Shardcarbines and more "ornate" armor would make for Trueborn units, eh!

Wracks are a pretty poor choice for plastics since they have no options really. Only real reason is so they wont be super expensive to consumer