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Does the psychic power that kills units on an Initiative test do anything to vehicles? Also, Logan Grimnar was rumored to be more of a major buff unit as opposed to a combat character. Is that true at all?

..err you did read the little text box about him on the previous page yes ? The one about him granting skills to units he is with ?

How many attack bikes per Swiftclaws squadron?

How many Power weapons per BC squad?

feth you GW for 10 man drop pods.

I personally like the fact that I can still use the plastic marines and sprues I have lying around.
Also, is it just me or is that drop pod straight-up blue?

Sigh...I was really hoping for some cool vehicle bitz for SW.

Saw the codex today, Njal kind of pissed me off, ignores any psychic power within 24" on a 3+.

Really? C'mon, that just crippled Eldar.

Not to mention his passive power chart that has one of them as -1Bs for all models in 24".

Outdated post removed and recompiled on pg 15

The tricksters statis bomb isnt on a 4+ its each model in base contact rolls a D6 if Lukas rolls equal or higher then they are dead.

Dude, the contradictory rumors make me want to shoot myself. 15 BCs, but only ONE power weapon? Wow, that blows. What should I do with the 7 power weapons I'm going to have left over?

Big problem with the +D3" saga and the outflank saga is that they seem to forget to mention the important parts.

Saga of the iron wolf doesnt mention that the vehicle counts as moving its previous speed like red paint does, therefore it sucks.

Saga of the hunter says "the character" has outflank and stealth. Stealth is passed onto the unit he joins, but outflank is not a USR and it does not mention it in rulebook.

Ahhh...GW lack of editing strikes again

@Ravenous D: Is it d3 or d6 for vehicle movement?
@Scottywan: I think the original poster was just being lazy in regrads to BC. I doubt they have changed much.

I'm hearing of a second wave of SW models on October 22nd. Does anybody know what's new then?

If most of these are true then wolves are now the strongest army in the game on paper.
Some of the rules seem insane, as do points for certain things.
alot of things seem like they will be broken.


I think this will be like going against an army of bloodcrushers.

In which case, time to arm my BA for CC

wyomingfox wrote:Ahhh...GW lack of editing strikes again

I'm pretty sure they're just paraphrasing.

Jesus people wait till we've actually seen the book before we start complaining about it. After its out its fair game.

wyomingfox wrote:Ahhh...GW lack of editing strikes again

@Ravenous D: Is it d3 or d6 for vehicle movement?
@Scottywan: I think the original poster was just being lazy in regrads to BC. I doubt they have changed much.

D3", Im sure it will get an FAQ but as it stands its useless.

Although Im not looking foward to the premise of a land raider moving 15" getting models out and assaulting in the same turn. Thats 24" with the 25mm bases (15 + 2" + 1" + 6")

Mastiff wrote:Great Googlymoogly, those are bloody mediocre

I gave props to you for your SM conversions! I like your take much better - though they're "dogs" rather than "wolves".

Scottywan82 wrote:Dude, the contradictory rumors make me want to shoot myself. 15 BCs, but only ONE power weapon? Wow, that blows. What should I do with the 7 power weapons I'm going to have left over?

i know, we need a nice scanned copy for everyone to "review"

They can only fit ten guys in a rhino and drop pod because THE CLOSE COMBAT WEAPONS THEY GET THAT REGULAR MARINES DON'T GET FOR THE SAME POINT VALUE TAKE UP A LOT OF GOD DAMN SPACE.

This also explains the same issue with chaos transports.

It's probably the beards and all the extra bitz taking up the space.

ShumaGorath wrote:They can only fit ten guys in a rhino and drop pod because THE CLOSE COMBAT WEAPONS THEY GET THAT REGULAR MARINES DON'T GET FOR THE SAME POINT VALUE TAKE UP A LOT OF GOD DAMN SPACE.

This also explains the same issue with chaos transports.

I lol'd

I disagree, it is very apparent that if the SW read the Codex Astartes, they too would know how to fit 12 in a DP or Rhino. Anyone know if the SW Cyclone is Ultramarine style or DA/BA style?

ShumaGorath wrote:They can only fit ten guys in a rhino and drop pod because THE CLOSE COMBAT WEAPONS THEY GET THAT REGULAR MARINES DON'T GET FOR THE SAME POINT VALUE TAKE UP A LOT OF GOD DAMN SPACE.

This also explains the same issue with chaos transports.

Topknots.

Also, CSM transports account for extra room taken up by spikes.

i don't think they will be all that good after reading this...

DruidODurham wrote:

Lone Wolves is 20 points base. WS 5 with 2 wounds, eternal warrior, feel no pain and re-rolls to hit against Walkers, Monstrous Creatures and things above T5. They are also really angry and have lots of options. Lone wolves that ARENT killed give up a kill point. Compared to 58 pt SM terminators these guys are awesome...unless they act independantly, then they are horrible due to KP craziness

They act all alone, they are ment to hunt big targets all on their lonesome. They are Wolfs that lost their whole pack and for some reason couldn't become Scouts, and they weren't chosen for the Wolf Guard so they get really angry and swear some oaths to avenge their brothers and kill stuff.

Codex Cover and a look at some sprues

DruidODurham wrote:It's probably the beards and all the extra bitz taking up the space.

No, no, no....the reason the Space Wolf transports have a lower passenger capacity is the space is taken up by the kegs of ale they take with them when they go into battle.

BrotherStynier wrote:

DruidODurham wrote:

Lone Wolves is 20 points base. WS 5 with 2 wounds, eternal warrior, feel no pain and re-rolls to hit against Walkers, Monstrous Creatures and things above T5. They are also really angry and have lots of options. Lone wolves that ARENT killed give up a kill point. Compared to 58 pt SM terminators these guys are awesome...unless they act independantly, then they are horrible due to KP craziness

They act all alone, they are ment to hunt big targets all on their lonesome. They are Wolfs that lost their whole pack and for some reason couldn't become Scouts, and they weren't chosen for the Wolf Guard so they get really angry and swear some oaths to avenge their brothers and kill stuff.

Then they fail . Sorry but one itty bitty guy isn't going to take down a Hive Tyrant or blood thirster...much less even get a chance to wound one. Plus the huge # of easy KP. Now if I could have had a squad of these guys and then given them divergent weapon options...ala biker nobs...and mounted them in a transport, then they would be fun .

I think you might find that he actually only gives away a KP if he is NOT killed.

So SW have dwarf slayer characters then.

wyomingfox wrote:

BrotherStynier wrote:

DruidODurham wrote:

Lone Wolves is 20 points base. WS 5 with 2 wounds, eternal warrior, feel no pain and re-rolls to hit against Walkers, Monstrous Creatures and things above T5. They are also really angry and have lots of options. Lone wolves that ARENT killed give up a kill point. Compared to 58 pt SM terminators these guys are awesome...unless they act independantly, then they are horrible due to KP craziness

They act all alone, they are ment to hunt big targets all on their lonesome. They are Wolfs that lost their whole pack and for some reason couldn't become Scouts, and they weren't chosen for the Wolf Guard so they get really angry and swear some oaths to avenge their brothers and kill stuff.

Then they fail . Sorry but one itty bitty guy isn't going to take down a Hive Tyrant or blood thirster...much less even get a chance to wound one. Plus the huge # of easy KP. Now if I could have had a squad of these guys and then given them divergent weapon options...ala biker nobs...and mounted them in a transport, then they would be fun .

I am thinking these guys are going to Rock.

If you can mount them on bikes they will be a pretty sweet choice for the 3rd elite slot, (scouts and wolf guard are a given)

give one of them a thunderhammer combimelta on a bike (or frostblade, meltabombs, combimelta on a bike), hide it behind a land raider on the first turn, turboboost out, next turn either melta a vehicle in the face, or double assault with the guys who were in the land raider (the land raider that moved an extra D6 inches BTW)

your opponent either shoots at him and not at your other units, (cheap diversion) or tries to ignore him to snag a Killpoint, but ends up losing a KP because he meltas or smashes something. DO WANT.