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^^ This game is long overdue for AV15 on something.

migsula, Archonate and Shaman win at Avatars.

TBD wrote:Are the Space Wolves expected to get the Ironclad Dreadnought as well?

And the Assault Cannon option for the Razorback?

(not sure if that is standard for every marine codex)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can already use them. The first page of the Space Wolves codex states "When choosing your army, you may make choices from the Space Marine Codex and/or Space Wolves Codex." It has no written limitations to it.

Typeline wrote:

Sirius42 wrote:I'm hoping Bjorn will be available through extras on the plastic sprue (a'la master of the RW in land speeder) Because there is no way he'll be all metal (think of the cost) and hybrid kits are a pain (and something GW seems to be moving away from).

Are you certain GW is concerned with how much you'll be paying?

Touche. I don't know what came over me.

I do wonder what we'll be paying for all of these Wolves, both in terms of points and dollars (substitute your local currency here).

I think I'll only really need the "Wolf Box" of parts that's been rumored.

Well, maybe a couple of those boxes, but still...

Well, like with my puting a patent on 'Golden Globes' if the Skaven Poison Wind Globadiers turn out to be priced like 'Goldswords', let me also patent the title 'Gold Teeth', if Long Fangs end up as the same price.

And Gold Guard, Bling Claws and Grey Gold.

Since the SW will be a lower count army, the new Battleforce box will just be a single Wolf Pack box with a Rhino.

And bikes. Don't forget the bikes. They always have bikes as everyone both wants and needs more bikes.

I wish I could say "No way!" but given the almost random nature of GW pricing lately combined with some ominous remarks from their last quarterly (or was that yearly?) review, I don't know!

H.B.M.C. wrote:And bikes. Don't forget the bikes. They always have bikes as everyone both wants and needs more bikes.

That made me laugh out loud. Cheers.

Alpharius wrote:I wish I could say "No way!" but given the almost random nature of GW pricing lately combined with some ominous remarks from their last quarterly (or was that yearly?) review, I don't know!

There is nothing random about GW pricing, as "random" would tend to imply that prices go up *and* prices also go down with nearly equal likelihood. In general, GW prices only go up. Ergo, there is a clear pattern. The only question is by how much GW will raise prices on a given item in a given year.

H.B.M.C. wrote:And bikes. Don't forget the bikes. They always have bikes as everyone both wants and needs more bikes.

Unless Bikes are effective with SWs, then they'll find a different useless unit. Jump pack troops maybe?

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Alpharius wrote:I wish I could say "No way!" but given the almost random nature of GW pricing lately combined with some ominous remarks from their last quarterly (or was that yearly?) review, I don't know!

There is nothing random about GW pricing, as "random" would tend to imply that prices go up *and* prices also go down with nearly equal likelihood. In general, GW prices only go up. Ergo, there is a clear pattern. The only question is by how much GW will raise prices on a given item in a given year.

I'll agree in that you have to look hard to see them, but there are a few random elements to their pricing scheme.

Even if it is only that things go UP in a randomly (seemingly) determined amount.

That is, Gold Swords, the Orc Warlord on Wyvern, etc.

JohnHwangDD wrote:There is nothing random about GW pricing, as "random" would tend to imply that prices go up *and* prices also go down with nearly equal likelihood.

That word - I do not think it means what you think it means.

Doobie! You live! You need to post more. The board misses your hit & run logic-attacks (like the one above).

Does anybody know how many special characters there will be in the new codex?

jab4962 wrote:Does anybody know how many special characters there will be in the new codex?

That depends on how many army variants we get.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:There is nothing random about GW pricing, as "random" would tend to imply that prices go up *and* prices also go down with nearly equal likelihood.

That word - I do not think it means what you think it means.

Don't tease now, Abby. I've gone this whole year thinking the only guys left from old Dakka were HBMC, me, and maybe one more that lurks but doesn't ever say anything. Was that you? Are we alone as I thought? I miss Therion and Mauleed.

jab4962 wrote:Does anybody know how many special characters there will be in the new codex?

SPECULATION: we know we have Ragnar, Logan, Bjorn. We suspect that we will have Ulrik, Njal, "Wolfriding Guy", I would not be suprized if they added even another on top of these.

If I had to guess I would say 7.

From what i have heard, there is Ragnar, Logan, Njal is a definate, i know people who have seen him, apparently he is in terminator armour this time around.

THe wolf riding character, and there is what has been described to me as a trickster character, seems to be some norse reference, i dunno, was weird :S

And i would say ulrik will make it in agian, and bjorn is there too.

Winter wrote:From what i have heard, there is Ragnar, Logan, Njal is a definate, i know people who have seen him, apparently he is in terminator armour this time around.

THe wolf riding character, and there is what has been described to me as a trickster character, seems to be some norse reference, i dunno, was weird :S

And i would say ulrik will make it in agian, and bjorn is there too.

in norse mythology the reference of a trickster is Loki i believe, and the wolf in norse mythology is fenir(spelling?) one is a reference to the devil (loki).

Where as Fenir is the wolf who kills odin! i am curious as to how they were referenced. Because if they are referenced then the space wolfs are going to get a point in my book.

"Trickster" character could be cool. I envision a Wolf Scout character.

acreedon wrote:one is a reference to the devil (loki).

Incorrect

would then who would a the trickester loki be in norse mythology?

Loki is not an analog to the devil.

My feeling of the Norse mythos was that he was everything bad about men. Selfish, cruel, and dishonest. Not the driving power behind all evil in the world.

Fenrir, or Fenris was one of Loki's children, along with Hel, the ruler of Niflheim (or Hel), and the serpent of Midgard.

Loki was not killed, because he was family, but he was imprisoned, strapped to a rock, and a serpent's poison dripped into his eyes.

I think a Loki/Trickster type would be in the fluff at least, someone the others don't really trust, but is likely a scout or psyker. Though i could see him being a captain.

I think that Loki was part of the inspiration for the Azazel character in the Sigmar novels.

Whatever it is, I am sure Jervis knows what he is doing.

O to my knowledge loki is their illusion of a devil because like most other religions the devil is view as a trickster... but we digress.

Demogerg wrote:

jab4962 wrote:Does anybody know how many special characters there will be in the new codex?

SPECULATION: we know we have Ragnar, Logan, Bjorn. We suspect that we will have Ulrik, Njal, "Wolfriding Guy", I would not be suprized if they added even another on top of these.

If I had to guess I would say 7.

I believe the wolf riding guy was named Canis Wolfborn if I am correct.

Tacobake wrote:Whatever it is, I am sure Jervis knows what he is doing.

Now if he can pass that onto Arby...

Tacobake wrote:Whatever it is, I am sure Jervis knows what he is doing.

Tacobake wrote:Jervis knows what he is doing.

What the hell are you smoking?

Indeed, that does deserve a "lolwhut?"