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I kinda like the stasis bomb idea, shame bout the mini.
   
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smartbomb in 40k:

Lukas the Trickster had his secondary heart ripped out by a Dark Eldar, and he had it replaced with a stasis bomb. The rule is called "the last laugh", and any models in base contact with him are removed from play. Not instant death, but removed from play.

Would expect such in a shoot em up...but tabletop?


See, GW didnt just copypasta nordic myths, they also include "He - man " (on a wolf)..


Space Wolf HQs are indeed 2 to a slot. Sagas can not be duplicated through the army, and neither can wargear combinations. The example he gave me was say you have a wolf lord with a frost weapon, belt of russ, his standard issue bolt pistol and frag and kraks. The next wolf lord you buy can have a frost weapon, belt of russ, and his grenades, but you would have to give him something else, like a plasma pistol.

So 4 x HQ?
Seems the first impression was right and its a herohammer40k codex.
Will be a nice read.


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Lukas the Trickster had his secondary heart ripped out by a Dark Eldar, and he had it replaced with a stasis bomb. The rule is called "the last laugh", and any models in base contact with him are removed from play. Not instant death, but removed from play.


Love it.

Suicidal awesome wrapped up in power armor and flowing with death. My kinda character right there.

THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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Suicidal awesome wrapped up in power armor and flowing with death. My kinda character right there.


Mine too, pity the model is so...underwhelming. The quote from halo 3 by sergeant johnson came to mind immediately.
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The_Chaplain wrote:
Suicidal awesome wrapped up in power armor and flowing with death. My kinda character right there.


Mine too, pity the model is so...underwhelming. The quote from halo 3 by sergeant johnson came to mind immediately.
Spoiler:
send me out....with a bang


I dunno, I like the model a Lot.

its hard to get faces on models that accurately portray the character in question, and Juan Diaz has done an excellent job here.

THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Why would you replace your heart with a ... that doesn't... but why... uhh...

Jumped the Shark is an apt description.

I don't think you need a reason. I mean, it's his second heart - might as well replace it with something stupidly awesome.

Of course, it doesn't exactly sound very space marine:ish. More like something a crazy ork painboy would do.

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So, I can't really find this in the thread, what exactly are Lone Wolves?

Also, I would like to add myself into the category of people who think that anybody wearing power armor should not ride an animal.

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how big are the wolf guard units you can field? i'm thinking about fielding a deathwing type wolf force using the space hulk minis and am not sure if i'll be able to use them all (have 2 sets on the way). are the WG up to 10 max for each elite slot (for a total of 30)? or do you just have one wolf guard unit/elite choice? if it's not the first then the rumored logan grimnar special ability of making them troops isn't all that great (good but not great).

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warboss wrote:how big are the wolf guard units you can field? i'm thinking about fielding a deathwing type wolf force using the space hulk minis and am not sure if i'll be able to use them all (have 2 sets on the way). are the WG up to 10 max for each elite slot (for a total of 30)? or do you just have one wolf guard unit/elite choice? if it's not the first then the rumored logan grimnar special ability of making them troops isn't all that great (good but not great).


In 2nd edition you could field 20 Wolf Guard (and they can all have termy armor), they all essentially were independant characters that you could mash together to form one uber unit.

in 3rd edition you can field 20 Wolf Guard (and they can all have termy armor) they can either be assigned as a sort of veteren sergeant type of model to your normal units, or as a retinue "bodyguard" for many of the independant characters in the book.

In every iteration of the rules so far, 20 has been the hard cap, and they have been able to either create super strong units, or act as leaders for your troops.

in 3rd edition 1 elite slot bought you the ability to field as many Wolf Guard as you had points for.

Also, if rumors are true that there is a special character that makes Wolf Guard Troops, then you could very easily fill out an 1850 list with 20 wolf guard, a land raider or 2, and that character.
(assuming an average of 60 points per termy, 60x20=1200, + 500 for 2 land raiders, + 150 for the character)

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THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=4300007a

Wolves Sprue pics. This been posted yet?

I know we've seen the cover of the codex already.

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Lagduf wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=4300007a

Wolves Sprue pics. This been posted yet?

I know we've seen the cover of the codex already.


nope. i woke up less than an hour ago and have been catching up on the space wolf news overnight and that wasn't on the GW front page in that time. i'm pretty sure you've got the scoop!


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Demogerg wrote:
in 3rd edition 1 elite slot bought you the ability to field as many Wolf Guard as you had points for.

Also, if rumors are true that there is a special character that makes Wolf Guard Troops, then you could very easily fill out an 1850 list with 20 wolf guard, a land raider or 2, and that character.
(assuming an average of 60 points per termy, 60x20=1200, + 500 for 2 land raiders, + 150 for the character)


cool, thanks. 20 plus characters is all i would have roughly from the two space wolf sets!

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Thats a lot of heads on the sprue, but only 5 legs? rip off.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:Why would you replace your heart with a ... that doesn't... but why... uhh...

Jumped the Shark is an apt description.


Not very Space Marine-ish for sure, but at least they mention dark eldar in a new codex, so maybe that should rest everyone's fears that they might be going away.

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I believe two sets of sprues come in each box. Ten men, plus a million bitz? NOT a rip off.
   
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1hadhq wrote: smartbomb in 40k:

Lukas the Trickster had his secondary heart ripped out by a Dark Eldar, and he had it replaced with a stasis bomb. The rule is called "the last laugh", and any models in base contact with him are removed from play. Not instant death, but removed from play.

Would expect such in a shoot em up...but tabletop?


See, GW didnt just copypasta nordic myths, they also include "He - man " (on a wolf)..


Space Wolf HQs are indeed 2 to a slot. Sagas can not be duplicated through the army, and neither can wargear combinations. The example he gave me was say you have a wolf lord with a frost weapon, belt of russ, his standard issue bolt pistol and frag and kraks. The next wolf lord you buy can have a frost weapon, belt of russ, and his grenades, but you would have to give him something else, like a plasma pistol.

So 4 x HQ?
Seems the first impression was right and its a herohammer40k codex.
Will be a nice read.



Is that statisbomb rule true???
   
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10 men plus bitz can upgrade other spess mehrine sprues (Assault Sprue and Tac Squad sprue so from one wolf pack, 1 tactical squad and 1 assault squad you get 10 wolf guard with P/Armour, 10 Grey Hunters and 10 Blood Claws for about 60 pounds. Not too bad a deal but you are paying about 5-10 pounds just for them being Space Wolves.



 
   
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I like the power armor parts, the Terminators don't look very exciting to me, and Canis Wolfborn just... Well, it's a Space Wolf riding a space wolf.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:Why would you replace your heart with a ... that doesn't... but why... uhh...

Jumped the Shark is an apt description.

Seems like having one less heart should be a disadvantage? The character should have lower toughness and/or fewer wounds... But that was probably conveniently overlooked.
And exactly how does one escape the DE unless they want you to?
Does his bomb go off when he dies or whenever he wants?
Agamemnon2 wrote:Canis Wolfborn just... Well, it's a Space Wolf riding a space wolf.

Oh be nice. SW players already tolerate enough homoerotic references without a character like this making it worse.

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Archonate wrote:
Agamemnon2 wrote:Canis Wolfborn just... Well, it's a Space Wolf riding a space wolf.

Oh be nice. SW players already tolerate enough homoerotic references without a character like this making it worse.


Well it could be worse. They could be DA players .


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Archonate wrote:Seems like having one less heart should be a disadvantage? The character should have lower toughness and/or fewer wounds... But that was probably conveniently overlooked.
And exactly how does one escape the DE unless they want you to?
Does his bomb go off when he dies or whenever he wants?

I think it's an interesting choice that GW is giving the Puppies a suicide bomber, in this day and age.

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Correction, He is a Space Wolf riding a Fenrisian Wolf.

THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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SgtDavi wrote:10 men plus bitz can upgrade other spess mehrine sprues (Assault Sprue and Tac Squad sprue so from one wolf pack, 1 tactical squad and 1 assault squad you get 10 wolf guard with P/Armour, 10 Grey Hunters and 10 Blood Claws for about 60 pounds. Not too bad a deal but you are paying about 5-10 pounds just for them being Space Wolves.

It's a *lot* cheaper than upgrading basic SM to Black Templars.

The idea that SW are complaining because there are so many bonus btiz specifically useful to upgrade basic Marines is pretty silly, IMO.

The real complaint should be that there doens't appear to be Melta or Flamer on the SW Sprue.

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I noticed that there was no meltagun on the sprue, but I didnt notice that there was no flamer. I'm particularly disappointed that they would forget something like that.
   
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I am ok with no melta or flamer, because I have an excess of them both from the older sets.

I dont however have any plasmaguns at all in my entire army. so this sprue is pure win for me.

THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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Great Googlymoogly, those are bloody mediocre

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I am rather happy, only slightly annoyed that the battleforce isn't dropping at the same time as the codex?

That just seems plain stupid to me.

 
   
 
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