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Gitsplitta wrote:
- I am uncertain of the configuration of the venerable given it's role in providing close-support to the sternguard, no question the autocannon is the most "fluffy" given that this is supposed to be a former tranquility sniper turned dreadnought... but I suspect an assault cannon would be a lot more useful.

Actually, I think TL LasCannon would be better in representing a former sniper, since they're long range, high accuracy, armour-piercing one-shot weapons...
Whereas the Autocannons fire in bursts, which doesn't make them much "snipy"...

Imperial Monkey wrote:Did you get the Heavy flamer on its own, if so WHERE???!? I want to get one for my sternguard, but don't want to shell out £25 for the terminators box... yet.

You can try with the new Legion of the Damned, they have a marine wielding a heavy flamer, available in a blister IIRC...

Why not use the heavy flamer from the cadian command squad sprue and do a bit of converting?

@Blackhand: Shhhhhhhh! The MoTF figure is a SECRET.... WM360 is just the one who pointed it out to me... though it was for something entirely different. When I start the conversion, I'll fess up.

@ImpMonkey: Ijust got the bits off of a bits trader on e-bay. Think it cost me around $6-$7. I think it's an IG heavy flamer... but once I'm done modifying (very minor) it, it should look just fine.

@warriors: Thanks. It may be a little bit as I've got my old painted snipers I can use in the interim and there are other units that I need for the army that aren't built or painted yet... but I might do a stop-gap fix and re-flock my original scouts & paint their cloaks like Telion's.

That Telion figure is EPIC! I need to stop staring at it before my eyes explode. Hope the MoTF is just as awesome!

Hey folks... got bit by the "blog page turns over and posts get lost for a while" bug....

@Yggdrasil: Good point, the las cannons would also be a good choice given the fluff. I'm just not certain what direction I want to go with it. In my current build, I know I can bring both pods down simultaniously in turn 1. The sternguard has a little bit of close-range anti-vehicle fire with the combi-meltas... but otherwise is primarily anti personnel. They're also a little light on h-t-h capability, though I'll run Pedro (and probably the MoTF) with them, so perhaps that's enough there. I'd thought about making sure the dread had at least one CCW to help them out in assault, but maybe the best thing a dread could do would be to open up whatever transport is nearest so the sternguard could take out it's occupants with fancy-schmancy bolter fire & flamers. In that case... perhaps TL las cannons and something else shooty on the left arm would be the better option. Thanks for the tip on the LoD flamer by-the-way.

@Blackhand: I think that may be where this came from originally, not sure. It's a nice flamer... should convert pretty easly though.

@obi-wan34: LOL! Between you and calgar I'm going to have a real mess to clean up... thanks though. Funny... when I look at it... perhaps because in my mind I see all the fiddly little intermediary steps... it's nothing special. I'm happy with it... don't get me wrong... but compared to some of the other stuff it the dakka gallery... *whew*! I am clearly painting at a different level than I was 6 months ago though... so that's cool. :-)

Ok, I can wait to see the MOTF...of course the more anticipation you build up the more awesome the model has to be!

On the Dread weapon loadout, have I suggested the two T/L autocannons? they crack most transports below AV14 and can mow though infantry as well and they are rarer than Lasdreads so cool factor +10.

@Blackhand: Yes you did, and I bought me one 'o them thar defensive aegis line kits so's I can kop da big gunz offa it & make me dread all shooty like.

... hmmmm.... slipped into Gitsplitta mode there.

Just exploring my options brother... just exploring my options.


What I'd really like is a dread with 2 assault cannons so's I can just hose down whatever's in front of me... it would be... orgazmic.

lol, maybe a T/L heavy bolter arm?..I'm pretty sure you can run one and it's kinda like a T/L Autocannon.

I've personally dropped the Lascannon-M/L combo on my GK dread in favour of the Autocannon, CCW and Incinirator loadout...theres something about having a dread skulking around the backfield sniping that is just so wrong, they're made to take fire and pound on things not ping lasfire off tanks!

Plus Incinirators are just plain cool

Gitsplitta wrote:
@Yggdrasil: The sternguard has a little bit of close-range anti-vehicle fire with the combi-meltas... but otherwise is primarily anti personnel. They're also a little light on h-t-h capability, [...] I'd thought about making sure the dread had at least one CCW to help them out in assault, [...] perhaps TL las cannons and something else shooty on the left arm would be the better option.

Actually, that was one of my non-fluffwise concern about your Turn 1-assault... Should the 3 Meltaguns single-shots fail (pretty much unlikely, of course, but still), Autocannons are a bit weak to deal with anything heavier than a truk... That's why Lascannons seem a safer choice for the Dreadnought... Plus, the fluff!!!

Gitsplitta wrote:
@Yggdrasil: Thanks for the tip on the LoD flamer by-the-way.

'Welcome dude... That's what we Dakkaites are here for anyway, aren't we?

What I'd really like is a dread with 2 assault cannons so's I can just hose down whatever's in front of me... it would be... orgazmic.

Wow... just wow. As creepy as that was I will still be eagerly waiting for more pcs!

"Don't scare the straights." eh, tony_nids?

LOL I got it... no more graphic visual images.

Awesome stuff! Totally inspirational! I read about the mantis warriors and thought they'd make for an awesome space marine army with a bit of flair, none of this
boring "I've fought this chapter a billion times" crap! And you seem to be doing awesome, the pics look great. Keep up the awesome work!

HAHAHA! You can't scare me man! Just too good of an oppertunity to pass up on a comment! I cant believe that BLACKHAND or Yggdrasil didnt beat me to it HAHA

Maybe you should make the servo-harness look like mantis arms...
You can do it with some eldar parts or something, and it would look really cool. However, are you going to use the head on the techmarine that Games workshop makes with all the servitors? because that head is the awesomest marine head ever

tony_nids_10 wrote:HAHAHA! You can't scare me man! Just too good of an oppertunity to pass up on a comment! I cant believe that BLACKHAND or Yggdrasil didnt beat me to it HAHA

Lol, I saw it...but I've said worse, far worse, so I didn't feel justified in having him up about it

BLACKHAND wrote:

tony_nids_10 wrote:HAHAHA! You can't scare me man! Just too good of an oppertunity to pass up on a comment! I cant believe that BLACKHAND or Yggdrasil didnt beat me to it HAHA

Lol, I saw it...but I've said worse, far worse, so I didn't feel justified in having him up about it

The arms on my Drazhar model look like those of a preying mantis? Perhaps a combination.

@Invention13: Thanks... it's going slowly... but it's going. I notice I get about two pages of chatting per image... by the time I'm done with my chapter I'll have to buy dakka another server...

@tnids: discretion is the better part of valor...

@pie: Great idea... but no... not what I have in mind. Be patient... time will reveal all. To be honest I don't know for certain how it's going to come out... I'm kind of rolling the die on an idea, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

@Blackhand: *grin* My best friend (more like a brother) and I have the same arrangement... we don't rip on each other because we've both seen too much together... we start going down that path and God only knows where it would end up. So we'll joke with others about the stupid things they did in their youth, or let them tease each of us... but our mutual history, stays history. After 35+ years of friendship we have wayyy to much dirt on each other to even start dishing out grief. Just better that way for everyone.

BLACKHAND wrote:

tony_nids_10 wrote:
HAHAHA! You can't scare me man! Just too good of an oppertunity to pass up on a comment! I cant believe that BLACKHAND or Yggdrasil didnt beat me to it HAHA

Lol, I saw it...but I've said worse, far worse, so I didn't feel justified in having him up about it

So you follow it up with another inuendo! Maybe my mind is just in the gutter...

@Gitsplitta- have you given anymore thought to the round joint idea for the chainsword vet weapons?

Yes, and I plan on doing it on the rest of them, I just can't change the prototype because I used plastic glue to put the little pieces on there so they're stuck permanently. The rest will have the circular joint.

I am greatly looking forward to seeing them!

tony_nids_10 wrote:I am greatly looking forward to seeing them!

seconded

Pads are being worked on, should see something this week or next for mantis pads

That's... exciting.

Almost as exciting as a dreadnought blazing away with twin-linked assault cannons.... *whirrrrrrrrr* (sound of mini-gun spinning, then the world erupts in fire and smoke)


Maybe I'll work on re-vamping my scouts first, build & paint the LS storms, venerable dread and drop pods... could even re-paint the rest of my dreads and land speeders to give the good boys at Chapterhouse time to finish up. OH, and perhaps make that MoTF too.

Will that satisfy everyone? I'm just thinking if I can occupy myself with other things while the shoulder pads are in production I won't have to replace shoulder pads later, I can just use the real one's from CH. And I obviously have a *lot* to do that won't require regular marine shoulder pads... so it's not like I'm wasting my time. The reason I ask you guys is that you've all become part of the project. Every aspect of it has been influenced by your input in some way or another, and I don't want to bore you by shifting away from the "exciting" squads like the sern & vanguards, commanders, etc. and going to the more mudane stuff. That being said... the Venerable, MoTF and re-painting my scouts to match Darius should be interesting projects... and the drop pods ans LS Storms are absolutely necessary... so no waste of time there either.

Thoughts? I'll finish the Vanguard prototype first of course... and finish painting the sterguard that are already built (so I can play with them)...but then it'll be wide open as to what I do next.

Eh, you can paint it all up now (barring the left shoulder) and just have a shoulder painting evening when they are ready.

I feel you though, I still have quite a few Salamander units to paint up and assemble to form my 3rd company. (about 75% done though).

Left shoulder? The old beakies had the studded pad on the left and the chapter badge on the right... has that flipped?

Yeah, standard codex is that the right arm holds rank or squad symbols and the left arm holds the chapter badge!

I believe the Mantis Warriors are a codex following chapter as well.

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah, standard codex is that the right arm holds rank or squad symbols and the left arm holds the chapter badge!

I believe the Mantis Warriors are a codex following chapter as well.

Not sure I'd agree on that one for using older beakeys. Look at the Sons of Orar in the How to Paint SM book, they are backwards.

Huh thats quite interesting, I never thought about that one. Nice figure painting!

Son-of-a-gun.... I just checked my codex and it HAS flipped! Those SOBs!

Hmmm.... I'll have to think about that. My sternguard stay as they are as I'm using several old metal beakies that are modeled the old way. I guess I can see it either way... Back when the MW's were sent on crusade, codex had the pads flipped... then they were gone for 100 years & now it's changed... would flipping their shoulder pads be a big deal to them?

Probs not.

I laughed so hard at the first line..those sisters of Battle!