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Dashofpepper wrote:A new store opened up fairly close to where I used to live - I called to sign my wife up for a league, and the owner denied me permission to participate. He said, "I've heard about you - you're too competitive and I don't want you beating up on my players and scaring them away from the hobby."

Lame.

That's totally unfair. The whole point of a league is for competitive players to get together to explore the competitive side of the game! That's why there's the term "league competition." You should appeal or something.

I have to add another worst experience. =p

I just moved to Jacksonville, FL.

In Apex North Carolina (by Raleigh) there is a store called "All Fun and Games." It's an hour from where I used to live, so I don't game there for fun, and tended to only make the trip when there was a tournament I thought would be decent sized.

Over the two years that I'd lived in North Carolina, I'd been to decent number of tournaments there; maybe one every 4 months on average? I've won every tournament at the store with the exception of one....in which a tie caused me to take second place. Since I don't game there often, the TO (Mike) said that I wasn't one of the "store's gamers" although I made an effort to buy something there every time I was in town (Paint, blister, dice cup, etc). In two years of playing at this store and beating on the locals, I've consistently been friendly, well-mannered, and polite.

First weekend in June, they host a "Warhammer Weekend" 40k tournament, and I pack up my models, call a friend to join me there, and go to play. Here's the relevant battle reports.

1. The missions were awful. They were imbalanced, poorly written, unfair....read the bat reps for details, but the first mission for example - my opponent could not win. No matter who he played against, or how deployment happened, there was no way for him to win the mission; he could tie at best. I tabled all three opponents, won the tournament, but it was still crappy missions.

2. Two of my opponents were slow, one of them enough so that I went up to the TO and commented that I was worried we wouldn't get through the game (Table #1, game 3). He told me to deal with it.

3. The player who I got a tie against in a previous tournament didn't make it to the store in time to play in the tournament - after the tournament I went over to him and his friends and was joking with them, and announced that I was going to make a joke....and said "So, when you guys going to bring a challenge?" It was a joke because I was moving to Florida in two weeks and wouldn't be gaming there again...

The fallout was epic. =p

Some slow linked my battle reports to the yahoo group where the TO reads/posts and said I was sniping at the store (read them for yourself). That, combined with accusations that I was drinking in the store, had a bad attitude, was a poor sportsmanship, cry and scream to get my way, was a bad person, kill babies....most of it stemming from anger that an "outsider" was winning all their tournaments and that I was bashing them for being uncompetitive" I was subsequently banned from the store (that I wasn't ever going back to) and banned from the yahoo group.

In exchange, the folks causing the drama got banned from Dakka for their ridiculous behavior.

Moral of the story: Joke very carefully with gamers outside your circle of friends, they may turn out to be insecure lemons?


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Austragalis wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:A new store opened up fairly close to where I used to live - I called to sign my wife up for a league, and the owner denied me permission to participate. He said, "I've heard about you - you're too competitive and I don't want you beating up on my players and scaring them away from the hobby."

Lame.

That's totally unfair. The whole point of a league is for competitive players to get together to explore the competitive side of the game! That's why there's the term "league competition." You should appeal or something.

I moved; I don't live in the same state anymore.

Samus, I'd like to congratulate you on what I reckon to be one of the best put together trolls ever. You've successfully had multiple posters raging at you for several pages over a week now. And on Dakka, where most people can spot them a mile off, that's quite something.

And I'm not insulting you here. Considering the definition of a troll is:- 'In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.', you've pulled it off perfectly.

I think that all that's left for me to say is:-

Dashofpepper wrote: That, combined with accusations that I was drinking in the store, had a bad attitude, was a poor sportsmanship, cry and scream to get my way, was a bad person, kill babies....

but............you DO drink in the stores, I've seen it Mr. Captain Morgan ........... and DO kill babies.....

Sergeant Horse wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote: That, combined with accusations that I was drinking in the store, had a bad attitude, was a poor sportsmanship, cry and scream to get my way, was a bad person, kill babies....

but............you DO drink in the stores, I've seen it Mr. Captain Morgan ........... and DO kill babies.....

Not true. I drink at GTs. Proudly! I display my bottle of Captain, share it with my opponents, take pictures of my bottle as it empties....but I have my wife as a DD for those. Local hole in the wall 40k tournament that I drive myself to and from...not so much.

Dashofpepper wrote:

Sergeant Horse wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote: That, combined with accusations that I was drinking in the store, had a bad attitude, was a poor sportsmanship, cry and scream to get my way, was a bad person, kill babies....

but............you DO drink in the stores, I've seen it Mr. Captain Morgan ........... and DO kill babies.....

Not true. I drink at GTs. Proudly! I display my bottle of Captain, share it with my opponents, take pictures of my bottle as it empties....but I have my wife as a DD for those. Local hole in the wall 40k tournament that I drive myself to and from...not so much.

Cept the circuit events Don't worry, I'm only trying to rise ya

I haven't been to any gamestores more than two times (GW Edinburgh three weeks ago, GW Oslo yesterday), so there's not much I've experienced from such places. The service is good in both stores though, they simply ask what you play, you answer, they offer help if there's anything you want to know, etc. without being pushy.
So far my only bad experience is my mom not letting me buy that extra Commisar.

I work at a hobby store that sells all different models including GW. I work once a week teaching kids how to play 40k and supervising the games of the more experienced kids. I was watching an IG vs. Tau game. The Tau were just getting killed! It was the 2nd turn and they were all almost dead. I moved to another table when I hear "I HATE LOSEING!!!" and then a massive crash. I turn my head and see a flipped over table and models everywhere! Because he lost he flipped over his case that was holding all of his models onto the floor! It’s not like this kid was 8 either, He was around 12 or 13. I couldn’t believe it. I was wondering what kind of sore losers you guys have seen.

zing165 wrote:I will be interested to see if any of them were as bad as this.

Read 70% of all previous posts in this thread .

MagickalMemories wrote:@Balance
I think you missed the point.
The employee heard him say he was going to play Ogres, so he went and grabbed $15o in product off of the shelves that he had no idea whether scooter wanted or not. He was trying to force a sale...

Didn't scooter say he wanted to play Ogres?

What's problem?

whitedragon wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:@Balance
I think you missed the point.
The employee heard him say he was going to play Ogres, so he went and grabbed $15o in product off of the shelves that he had no idea whether scooter wanted or not. He was trying to force a sale...

Didn't scooter say he wanted to play Ogres?

What's problem?

Wasn't it for blood bowl or something, and I think he was only considering it..

I travel on a hovercraft (ah, the joys of living on an island) then travel via taxi with my mum to town, do some jobs for my nan, get a bit of money (usually about a tenner, but i'll have more anyway) then eventually get to the GW, while mum and gran do womany-stuff in town. Usually the store is pretty good, the employees are nice enough, though despite taking my case with roughly 2000 points several times (guard, usually, but some times necrons) i've never had a game.

I have had one rather positive experience, where some guys were already playing, they were noobs, so i helped with rules, kept an eye on the game, and generally had a good laugh. The last time, i was ignored almost entirely, only spoken to when i was paying (for my first high elves) and even then, the black shirt was more involved in conversation with another person (who was just leaving with his son, who he had let crawl under the table filled with models) Not my money, or miniatures on the line, but i felt sorry for the guys trying to get to grips with the new fantasy rules having every sentence interrupted by banging. That kid had one thick skull...

Lord Shag wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Okay you're late....Drop it already. That was over a week ago..

Did a week make you any less of a terrible person?

Did a week make me give a poop? Shut up already, who are you? Jesus?

You're clearly annoyed by the attention, which certainly seems to indicate that you care what others think; even on the internet. As such, it makes sense to continue the social pressure.

dogma wrote:You're clearly annoyed by the attention, which certainly seems to indicate that you care what others think; even on the internet. As such, it makes sense to continue the social pressure.

Well said.

Samus_aran115 wrote:
Did a week make me give a poop? Shut up already, who are you? Jesus?

Obviously not. No. Me. I doubt it,but who knows?

whitedragon wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:@Balance
I think you missed the point.
The employee heard him say he was going to play Ogres, so he went and grabbed $15o in product off of the shelves that he had no idea whether scooter wanted or not. He was trying to force a sale...

Didn't scooter say he wanted to play Ogres?

What's problem?

He said he was considering converting an ogre team. He didn't ask the guy to grab $150 in product off the shelves (that he didn't even know would be what scooter wanted) and pressure him into buying it.
Saying, "Ogres, huh? If you want, I can go round everything up for you & have it waiting at the register," is good customer service. Actually doing it without checking with the customer first and saying, basically, "Here's your stuff. See you at the register,*" is something entirely different.


*I know scooter didn't say the guy said this. I'm using that quote to demonstrate the attitude the guy had about it that scooter reflected with his comments.


Eric

dogma wrote:You're clearly annoyed by the attention, which certainly seems to indicate that you care what others think; even on the internet. As such, it makes sense to continue the social pressure.

Dogma? Out of the OT forum? (I kid, though this is the only thread I remember seeing you out of there!)

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Lord Shag wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Okay you're late....Drop it already. That was over a week ago..

Did a week make you any less of a terrible person?

Did a week make me give a poop? Shut up already, who are you? Jesus?

Wow. Yes. Dogma has it, you did something wrong, and we will force you into either ignoring all of us, getting this thread locked (not likely), fixing the problem (also not likely), or simply feel terrible, which you should. Your opponent did nothing warranting your socially unnacceptable actions.

liquidjoshi wrote:I travel on a hovercraft (ah, the joys of living on an island)

You travel on a hovercraft? Now THAT is boss. It's like you're living in the future...but it's the present! Yes, I know it's just a vacuum bag with a chair on it, but it's still cool

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Lord Shag wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Okay you're late....Drop it already. That was over a week ago..

Did a week make you any less of a terrible person?

Did a week make me give a poop? Shut up already, who are you? Jesus?

What you just said is that you don't care that you have the same amount of moral fiber as a bowl of Child-Rape-O's, and that you won't be held accountable for yourself unless you get mad-dog'd by Jesus himself. For shame, young one.

karimabuseer wrote:Canada seems much better, but us in the UK are given the best service, with the exception of GW Stockholm which is uberuber.

I love my GW Stockholm as a couple of the staff love to talk tactics and army lists with customers, although I make sure to go there
after 3 PM when all the 11-year olds tend to leave.

So back to topic, the only bad experience I have had at GW Stockholm is related to little kids with no politeness. I walk into the
store to buy 2 boxes of Howling Banshees. I pick them up from the shelf, when suddenly one of the 10-year olds at the painting table
shouts, no, SCREAMS at the top of his lungs: YAAAAAY OMG ELDAAAAAAR AWESOME!!!!!! CAN I LOOK!!!!????

Seriously, I never walk into the store before 3pm.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Lord Shag wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Okay you're late....Drop it already. That was over a week ago..

Did a week make you any less of a terrible person?

Did a week make me give a poop? Shut up already, who are you? Jesus?

I must ask...what exactly kind of response were you expecting? 'You stole the model of some guy for getting some rules wrong? The model he spented hours painting? Just like I have? And sometimes I get my rules wrong too? Dude, you're so awesome! Steal my model when I mess up some rules too!'

You're not exactly likely to get credit for, what for many of us, is a real concern...that some bastard is going to steal something we've speant a great deal of time, cash and effort on.

As for my worst experience...being challenged to playing the old Tyranids codex. At 300 pts. When he was using without number. And cheated as much as humanly possible. And when he lost (Hey kid, I have three kill point total) went and whined and whined and whined until he got it down as a win for him.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Did a week make me give a poop? Shut up already, who are you? Jesus?

Poop?

Could you not come up with anything better?

Go back to playing runescape with the rest of your socially inept troll like friends and leave the rest of us alone.

May Karma come back on you and cause you to lose every game you ever play!

I think you have got this game confused with Pokemon you little douchebag

My worst gaming experience is just all the ork players at my Flgs that just scream waaaaaaagh every 20 minutes or so as one of them launches a waaagh. This is done at the top of their voices (and boy is it loud) in a pretty small area that seems to amplify their cries, I mean all I wanna do is do the first part of a dark heresy mission find one clue and then jump straight to the end, kill a bunch of cultists, summon a greater deamon in doing so and then wonder if jumping to the end was the right thing to do.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Did a week make me give a poop? Shut up already, who are you? Jesus?

<mentoring mode>
Stop posting!
Take a week considering what people here have posted & why.
Then either let it blow over – and live with the stigma of being pointed out as a thief – or make the guy you stole the figure from post and tell everyone what an upstanding guy you are that not only gave him back his figure but also apologized profusely for being so childish.
</mentoring mode>

Ediin wrote:
I love my GW Stockholm as a couple of the staff love to talk tactics and army lists with customers, although I make sure to go there
after 3 PM when all the 11-year olds tend to leave.

[…]

Seriously, I never walk into the store before 3pm.

If that's not a pro-tip I don't know what is. I'll make sure to try going there after 3pm this week. I've always been forced to wade through a horde of 11 year olds when going there.

I had my worst experience a not that long ago. I'm admittadly a new player, and just finished assembling my drop pod army. I know I should probably have practiced with some friends first, but I figured that the guys at the gaming store would be fun to play with.

I met this one guy who seemed a little off, but he was also a new player. He kept scratching his butt and smelling his hands. I didn't let him touch my models.He kept getting snippy about my drop pods, saying they were lame and stuff. I dunno. I still think they can work. Anyway, I thought that the didn't scatter, but I read that rule wrong. Also, I knew that only half would land on turn 1, but I thought that you get the rest on turn 2. I now know that you have to roll for the rest. But it was my first time with drop pods, and I'm learning.

He kept arguing a lot. Like he knew the rules, like when he tried to say that all of his nids had the "Without numbers" rule. He kept talking to his dice. He said he punished one of them by eating it...I didn't ask how he got it back or which one it was. He did pause everytime he said "Let me roll for scat...ter." *shudder*

Anyway, I told him that I had to go wash my hair and packed my stuff to leave. In my haste to get away from him, I think I left my shrike that I painted. I called and asked the store manager, but he hasn't found it, yet.

whitedragon wrote:
MagickalMemories wrote:
@Balance
I think you missed the point.
The employee heard him say he was going to play Ogres, so he went and grabbed $15o in product off of the shelves that he had no idea whether scooter wanted or not. He was trying to force a sale...



Didn't scooter say he wanted to play Ogres?

What's problem?

The problem is simple when you’re a veteran gamer meaning several armies in all systems. A store manager should not be pressure selling me anything.

This is the same manager who is now working at the Memphis bunker and ing that place up just as good as he did the Baltimore bunker. It took Tom about 2 months but people are starting to come in again to play and hangout. Gw has a bad track record with hiring people and who they keep.

My little brother who is a amazing seller and people person plays the games they sell and is loving it, Perfect for the company. Tried to get a job there he went thru the hiring process and everything. They went with a guy who has never even played the game. I'm sure they have there reasons but it's never makes sense to me.

If Gw wants to fix some of the problems they have maybe they shouldn't hire morons to run and work at stores.

P.S. The Memphis manager got a death threat his first week there. That should say all. A death thereat by a 30 something guy.

Dashofpepper wrote:A new store opened up fairly close to where I used to live - I called to sign my wife up for a league, and the owner denied me permission to participate. He said, "I've heard about you - you're too competitive and I don't want you beating up on my players and scaring them away from the hobby."

Lame.

Just sign yourself up as Austin Powers. Come dressed for the part.

kronk wrote:I had my worst experience a not that long ago. I'm admittadly a new player, and just finished assembling my drop pod army. I know I should probably have practiced with some friends first, but I figured that the guys at the gaming store would be fun to play with.

I met this one guy who seemed a little off, but he was also a new player. He kept scratching his butt and smelling his hands. I didn't let him touch my models.He kept getting snippy about my drop pods, saying they were lame and stuff. I dunno. I still think they can work. Anyway, I thought that the didn't scatter, but I read that rule wrong. Also, I knew that only half would land on turn 1, but I thought that you get the rest on turn 2. I now know that you have to roll for the rest. But it was my first time with drop pods, and I'm learning.

He kept arguing a lot. Like he knew the rules, like when he tried to say that all of his nids had the "Without numbers" rule. He kept talking to his dice. He said he punished one of them by eating it...I didn't ask how he got it back or which one it was. He did pause everytime he said "Let me roll for scat...ter." *shudder*

Anyway, I told him that I had to go wash my hair and packed my stuff to leave. In my haste to get away from him, I think I left my shrike that I painted. I called and asked the store manager, but he hasn't found it, yet.

Hmm, this sounds familiar...

Samus_aran115 wrote:
A couple months back, when I'd just started 40k, I played against a marines player who was running dreadnought swarm. He was drop podding them all in. So I ask him, "Hey, what the hell are you rolling first turn for? Deep striking units come in on the second turn!" He says "No, they have a special rule"

I didn't play marines, so I had no idea how drop pods worked at the time. BUT THAT"S NOT IT! When he was deepstriking, he would never roll for scatter. I asked him why he wasn't rolling for scatter, "Yeah,uh, drop pods have a special rule."

So yeah, naturally I lost the game, on account that it was my second game. It's okay though, I stole his kayvaan shrike model, Bwahahaha. Don't leave your HQ on the floor next time, douchebag!

Well, let´s see what happens now

This just got way more interesting.

kronk wrote:Anyway, I told him that I had to go wash my hair and packed my stuff to leave. In my haste to get away from him, I think I left my shrike that I painted. I called and asked the store manager, but he hasn't found it, yet.

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