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LunaHound wrote:

scarletsquig wrote:^ Plastic plastic. On sprues.

Seperate bodies, heads, right arms and left arms on *all* models, so properly multi-part too. 5 models on each sprue as well, so it's not one of those little 2-man jobs either, there's plenty of variety.
Mantic finally made a sprue that doesn't have any of the design flaws that the internet has been yelling at it about for the last 2 years. :p

Sculpts are great too:



Goblins are my favourite fantasy race after humans, so I couldn't be happier.

I think a plastic sprue would be really great as an ambitious "final goal" for this kickstarter. $60k stretch goal for something downright awesome, like a plastic human sprue, and give away a full regiment of 20 as the reward.

Too risky to do as a stretch goal at the moment in case it doesn't work out, but in the last 2-3 days Mantic will have absolutely nothing to lose by just throwing it out there and seeing if people really want it.

Wait wait.... Im almost afraid to ask * this is my 3rd time asking :'P

Those ARE plastic plastic now? >.<

Not their arms. The plastic plastic goblins are the archers. All other goblins are plastic archers with metal sword and shield arms.

Goblin Archers - plastic sprue

Goblin Rabble (HW+Shield) - plastic archer sprue with metal hand weapon arms, shield and command

Goblin Sharpsticks (Spear+shield) - Plastic Archer Sprue with metal spears, shields and command

aaand, fleabag riders are go!
Wonder what the next stretch goals will be, they can't very well just keep giving away more free minis.... OR CAN THEY?!?

$130k just hit! Still almost a week left, this could be fun.

Ninja'd!

ThomasPolder wrote:aaand, fleabag riders are go!
Wonder what the next stretch goals will be, they can't very well just keep giving away more free minis.... OR CAN THEY?!?

They could always toss in something from their still unseen humans

Next goal is a Plastic Abyssal Dwarf Core Unit.

Funding amount required is unknown.


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$140,000 - Abyssal Dwarf Immortal Guard

We will produce a unit of Plastic Immortal Guard - these models will be complete figures (new legs and everything!) and will replace the existing hybrid models. We will also try and squeeze a few of the Black Soul upgrades onto the tool as well if we can.

I am half tempted to back at $175, but I am trying to severely cut back on miniatures. What to do....

New stretch goal added, and first post updated.

I've also calculated the RRP for the 1000-point armies and added it to the $175 level if anyone's interested.

The $175 pledge level is worth over $450 currently!

scarletsquig wrote:New stretch goal added, and first post updated.

I've also calculated the RRP for the 1000-point armies and added it to the $175 level if anyone's interested.

The $175 pledge level is worth over $450 currently!

Thanks for that Scarlet, any chance you could figure out the $225 on as well?

Cyporiean wrote:Next goal is a Plastic Abyssal Dwarf Core Unit.

Funding amount required is unknown.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
$140,000 - Abyssal Dwarf Immortal Guard

We will produce a unit of Plastic Immortal Guard - these models will be complete figures (new legs and everything!) and will replace the existing hybrid models. We will also try and squeeze a few of the Black Soul upgrades onto the tool as well if we can.

Now that's very nice. I will be a happy boy if every other Stretch goal now is getting rid of hybrid and metal units. Plus the fact that they are doubling the number in any army set you buy is ridiiculously generous. (And sure to help sell a few more AD/Elf armies).

I still think they should start with Goblins though, and nip the hybrid core units before they spread!

Schmapdi wrote:
$140,000 - Abyssal Dwarf Immortal Guard
Now that's very nice. I will be a happy boy if every other Stretch goal now is getting rid of hybrid and metal units. Plus the fact that they are doubling the number in any army set you buy is ridiiculously generous. (And sure to help sell a few more AD/Elf armies).
I still think they should start with Goblins though, and nip the hybrid core units before they spread!

I agree with you on the goblins. It might be that they've already produced a ton of the hybrid models and have them in stock right now. They clearly didn't expect this to happen with their Kickstarter..

scarletsquig wrote:
(In the Sedition Wars thread)
It might just be the case that they can't afford to add any more free stuff to the biohazard level.
The Mantic one has reached this point, although they're still giving out a unit of 5 models to $175+ backers with every stretch goal.

That really stood out to me, actually. The "human sized" units have become units of 5, not the units of 10 they're offering with the 2-for-$25. On one hand, I'm a little disappointed, on the other hand, I'm getting tons of stuff, and they're not asking me for another $10 for every extra unit, so I reckon I'll still be in the $175-225 range quite happily. Frankly, I'm a bit concerned about which figures I might want to get more $25-sets of, and with my wife interested in some of the figures for herself to paint, I'm starting to wonder if my wife and I should both put in a Kickstarter of $100+ each (if we can afford it.)

Cyporiean wrote:

scarletsquig wrote:New stretch goal added, and first post updated.
The $175 pledge level is worth over $450 currently!

Thanks for that Scarlet, any chance you could figure out the $225 on as well?

Please do! (and the $110!) I'm wondering if I can talk her into either $110 or $175, and maybe, just maybe get the $225 myself.....

Just added up the $110 one since it was easy to do..

The $110 pledge gets you $277.30 of models. 60% Discount from RRP.

I'll get cracking on the $225 ones, but they'll take a bit longer to figure out since I'm totally unfamiliar with US prices and have to check the store.

The short answer is that pretty much everything is an insanely good deal.

So to clarify, if I get the $175 pledge and add on special extras that bring the total up to $255, do i get all items at the $225 level?

Warlord Imp wrote:So to clarify, if I get the $175 pledge and add on special extras that bring the total up to $255, do i get all items at the $225 level?

Nope, you get all the minis and loot the $175 pledge level includes and all the $80 of extras you bought. if you want the $225 level and your $80 extras you would need to pledge/pay $305.

Actually, you DO.

scarletsquig wrote:
- Shipping to the US, Europe and Canada is free.
- International shipping is an additional $15.
- If you order contains a mixture of items that are already available, and items that are not, then your order will be shipped in 2 parts, so you don't have to wait.


Finally, Mantic has confirmed that all pledges that add up to $100+ get all the $100+ freebies, whether you pick a $100+ pledge or not.

For example, you can pledge $35, then add 3 boxes of special extras for $110 total, and still get your free orc chariot, map, etc.

This also applies to the $175 and $225 level pledges, your total amount pledged is what matters, not the pledge level, for the sake of determining what freebies you get.

Note - If you don't live in Europe, the US, or Canada (where shipping is free), then the additional $15 shipping fee does not count towards your pledge level, it needs to be on top of it.

Warlord Imp wrote:So to clarify, if I get the $175 pledge and add on special extras that bring the total up to $255, do i get all items at the $225 level?

This is correct, you *do* get all the items from the $225 level.

Also, scipio, I'm done with the calculator! First post updated.

- The $225 pledge level gets you $630 total of stuff if you get the goblins, $615 if you get Twilight Kin, and just over $500 if you pick Abyssal Dwarves. 64% discount in total.

Basically, all the pledge levels come to about 60% or so discount, no matter what you buy (as long as it isn't dwarfs or abyssal dwarfs, get multiples of the army sets as special extras if you want those, it's cheaper).

If I had to hazard a guess, Mantic's production costs probably run at about 20% of RRP, so with this kickstarter, they'll be using about 50-60% of the money raised to fulfil orders and the rest will fund paying for the tooling of the new units.

It almost seems too good to be true with the deals they're offering, to the point where there are comments on the kickstarter and the mantic forums that are worried that it will bankrupt the company - it won't, they're definitely keeping an eye on their margins, but are still able to offer an extremely good deal in exchange for faith in the product being made.

Thanks, SS. I'm not sure what I'd get, actually. Maybe the $110 plus a bag and some 2-for-1 extras. Not sure about getting a whole army, as I already have about 3 large WFB Armies unpainted and unassembled. Goblins look good, but would I ever paint them. I like their ADs in general but don't much like the dwarf plastic bases.

decisions, decisions....

Yeah, I agree with you on the abyssal dwarfs, I love how Mantic specifically said "new legs" for the current stretch goal, they knew exactly what people wanted to hear with regards to that.

The immortal guard will up for sale in the special extras as $25 for 20 after the next stretch goal is hit, so those might be a good way to hit the $175 mark to nab all the free units.

scipio.au wrote:Actually, you DO.

Bah, even more value! I rescind my statement! I rescind it soooooo hard!

Haha, good move.

Less than $1K to get Immortal Guard!!

Yup, and another character for 225+ backers


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...aand, 140k broken.
AD Immortal guard for all $175 plus backers

New stretch goal up.

Quite a fun one this time, both Elf and Twilight Kin Cavalry, with a free unit at $175+, and 2 free units at $225+

And after that, Human Paladin Angels.

I have no interest in kickstarter. However, I do have interest in
your products. How long does it take for a project to go from
being a funding goal/for your funders to being readily available
as something I can buy at the flags?

malfred wrote:I have no interest in kickstarter. However, I do have interest in
your products. How long does it take for a project to go from
being a funding goal/for your funders to being readily available
as something I can buy at the flags?

Are you talking about the upcoming plastic stuff? Thats next year

I mean anything they make as a result of getting funded.

malfred wrote:I mean anything they make as a result of getting funded.

Current releases ship July/August, The new stuff is supposed to ship Q1/Q2 2013.

malfred wrote:I mean anything they make as a result of getting funded.

any kickstarter rewards that are our now will be shipped in a month or so; anything they still have to make will be shipped out in bulk Q2 2013.
I'd say it'll all be available around that time.

really, if you'd like some of their new stuff though, buy it through kickstarter now! it's a long wait and you'll part with your money a lot sooner but you'll basically get 2 for the price of 1.
which is good

Nah, I like to support the stores that stock the product.

Ill buy it from them when it gets there.

Thanks!

If you're interested in the rulebook or any of the currently-available armies (elves, dwarfs, goblins, etc) then you'd get those immediately. Ogres, trolls, werewolves and so forth are next year. Depends on which figures you're interested in, and if you have any interest in the rulebook.

Not really. I just want models.