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Everytime I try to throw together a power blob, I get really carried away and they end up costing 800 pts. Yet I see that most people's powerblobs are 300-400 points. What do your power blobs have in them?

Well for orks its as many power weapons in a unit as you can and for gaurd its 20-40 guys with a commisar all the seargeants have power weapons and joined by priests

Well, i'm talking about specificly IG powerblobs. Any hope for a points value, or something a little more specific? Thanks for the quick answer though.

For guard, how i run it, Is two 10 man squads, giving the sargents power weapons, and two flamers. adding in a commissar with a powerweapon as well. All in all that should run around 175. Though i think 3-4 squads in the blob is more the normal, raising the cost along with that.

The most successful, as far as I can tell, is the 30 man blob with 3 Power weapon sergeants, 3 Autocannons or Lascannons, a Commissar with a Power weapon and a single Vox caster.

Still too much bloat Darkvoid. A real Powerblob is this:

PIS, Power Weapon, Commissar w/ Power Weapon
PIS, Power Weapon
PIS, Power Weapon
225

You don't need Vox Casters since the unit is Ld9. The unit will always be moving, so don't bother with Heavy Weapons. It is too difficult to bring Meltaguns to bear with such a large squad, so leave those to your SWS, CCS and PCS. Just get this unit close, blast away with a million lasguns and then take a charge like a champ.

20 is too few to survive more than a single round of close combat. 40 will leave you with models that aren't close enough to attack in close combat. 30 is the magic number, and don't let anyone tell you different.

Yeah, thanks all, whenever I try to put some together I end up piling in max gaurd squads with conscripts and heavy weapons and stuff, and then I notice that just one squad is a third of my army.

DarkHound wrote:Still too much bloat Darkvoid. A real Powerblob is this:

PIS, Power Weapon, Commissar w/ Power Weapon
PIS, Power Weapon
PIS, Power Weapon
225

You don't need Vox Casters since the unit is Ld9. The unit will always be moving, so don't bother with Heavy Weapons. It is too difficult to bring Meltaguns to bear with such a large squad, so leave those to your SWS, CCS and PCS. Just get this unit close, blast away with a million lasguns and then take a charge like a champ.

20 is too few to survive more than a single round of close combat. 40 will leave you with models that aren't close enough to attack in close combat. 30 is the magic number, and don't let anyone tell you different.

This. But be sure to take more than 1 blob, that's when blob lists get deadly.

When you have more than one blob, you get the special rule where you get to laugh at his face when you lose 20 models in one blow and dont care.

yeah 30-40 mangs, with p.weap's and a commissar. If special weapons are if you have the points spare. If you're running a gunline, then look into AC's for the blob/s, for the first turn volley, but they generally dont get used after that.

My blobs are as follows.

PIS: Flamer, Meltabombs, PW, Commissar w/ Power Weapon
PIS: Flamer, Meltabombs, PW
PIS: Flamer, Meltabombs, PW
Priest w/ Eviscerator

310 pts all together, and I take two (which still really isn't enough to be honest...)

I run my power blobs 30 men strong, but I run them in a hybrid list along with mechanized infantry and heavy armour. For this reason, I kit my power blob to be a little more independent so that the rest of the army can roll forward and do what armour is supposed to do. To do this, I give all the Sergeants power swords AND melta bombs, should the enemy get around my armour somehow. This allows the blob to take on any walkers or other vehicles that get close to them. For the special weapons, I give them meltas to deal with vehicles that get too close. The juicy contents inside should succumb to the massed lasfire or the power swords.

Cheaper blobs work if you're doing a list that relies entirely on your infantry, but if they're part of a hybrid force you need to give them the tools they need to deal with anything that comes their way. Particularly if they're sitting on objectives far behind your other units.

I find that taking Straken and keeping him around eliminates the need for a Priest. Plus, Straken is awesomesauce.

True, but a Priest also gives you a handy dandy can opener, which is always useful to have when you've got a lot of tanks coming your way.

I used to run priests, but for 60pts (with eviscerator), it just became too expensive. To echo the thoughts, 30 man blobs are where I've found greatest success. I know that some people here swear by 20 man blobs, but I find them too fragile. I run...

PIS: Meltagun, Meltabombs, PW, Commissar w/PW
PIS: Meltagun, Meltabombs, PW
PIS: Meltagun, PW

For 265pts. Does the trick, flamers are decent too, though I normally run 4 flamers in one of the PCS nestled inside a blob. Add Straken increased awesomeness.

Hmm, I've always kept my CCS back with my heavy weapons teams, so I find Priests a must have for my army. The extra punch they get on the charge kind of make it worth the 60 points for me.

ChrisWWII wrote:Hmm, I've always kept my CCS back with my heavy weapons teams, so I find Priests a must have for my army. The extra punch they get on the charge kind of make it worth the 60 points for me.

The only problem I had and still have with priests, is that without them, I can take another blob, or nearly anyways. If I had 60pts to spare (or even 45), sure, I'd throw in a priest, assuming I don't already have Marbo. That, and there are a number of armies that can more easily dictate who gets the charge and when, which can quickly reduce a priests effectiveness. They're a decent choice, but I find that regular blobs with Straken or even on their own are very solid.

But you have to get the priest into base to base contact for him to do anything. And against any vehicles that want to get into CC with you, the Priest we get bitchslapped for he gets to attack. Just use Meltaguns for anti-tank, or better yet, use something *good* at killing tanks. Like Vendettas.

EDIT: The extra "punch" added by Priests? So more Strength 3 attacks? Big woop. A blob works by outlasting the opponent, not charging in and kicking ass.

odorofdeath wrote:Just use Meltaguns for anti-tank, or better yet, use something *good* at killing tanks. Like Vendettas.

This. I subscribe to this train of thought after I cracked open a land raider in assault cause I didn't have any other available antitank nearby...the resulting explosion got a bunch of dudes, then the pissed off marines insides boltered and flamed before assaulting me...not pleasant...

thirty seems to be the best. i have them outifited with three melta guns, sgts with power weapons and a commissar with a power weapon.

I just want to add that in lists with 1 or more powerblobs, a Lord Commissar with a camo cloak becomes a viable choice. This is because the squad gets so big that the enemy almost has to shoot at it at one point, and the LC gives the entire squad +1 to cover.

GLs as opposed to flamers are also not a bad choice, because a 30 man squad will not have the mobility, and seldom have the opportunity, to make good use of the flamers.

Redscare wrote:I just want to add that in lists with 1 or more powerblobs, a Lord Commissar with a camo cloak becomes a viable choice. This is because the squad gets so big that the enemy almost has to shoot at it at one point, and the LC gives the entire squad +1 to cover.

Wait, what? Since when did one dude wearing a bed roll make thirty dudes harder to hit?

SInce the FAQ came out, and said one model with stealth gives the whole unit stealth. You're supposed to assume that he's giving them instructions on where to hide.

ChrisWWII wrote:SInce the FAQ came out, and said one model with stealth gives the whole unit stealth. You're supposed to assume that he's giving them instructions on where to hide.

What the gak? That's stupid.

That's what I say, but it's the rules now. An IC with Stealth gives Stealth to whatever unit he joins, be that a squad of Ogryns, or a 50 man Guard blob.

Edit:

It looks like your kitteh is going DO NOT WANT to Caramelldance Marine.

ChrisWWII wrote:That's what I say, but it's the rules now. An IC with Stealth gives Stealth to whatever unit he joins, be that a squad of Ogryns, or a 50 man Guard blob.

Edit:

It looks like your kitteh is going DO NOT WANT to Caramelldance Marine.

Noice, you edited whilst I simultaneously pressed quote.

God damn you Games Workshop, God damn you.


On an unrelated note, it is momentarily amusing to watch both avatars together.

Maybe it'll distract us from the idiocity of IC giving stealth to 30 man powerblobs.

ChrisWWII wrote:Maybe it'll distract us from the idiocity of IC giving stealth to 30 man powerblobs.

Just wait 'til you hear about GK Hammerhand shenanigans..

i usually run my blobs as
pis: melta+pw+commisar w/pw
pis: melta+pw

relatively cheap and can get the job done (or die horribly)

Devastator wrote:relatively cheap and can get the job done (and die horribly)

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