BoK TastyTaste rumours about 40k 6th edition

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**Redemption**

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2012/05/05/network-news-the-6th-edition-leak-and/

OMG finally finally my poor little site is fixed thanks for the patience everyone! So anyway it looks like I started some rumor spilling last week as everyone in the rumor mill decided to jump in the game. I hope what I am about to post is not already outdated, but with life and the server repair I haven’t have time to keep up.

Ok, let us get ready for some fun guys 6th is about two months away so let us set up some ground rules first off.

That leaked 6th edition pdf was and is still a complete fabrication.

40k 6th edition is going to be much closer to Fantasy 8th and 40k 2nd edition than anything else.

GW still has rumor lock down in place, so these leaks are for the most part things that have been seen before from previous editions of Games Workshop games. This is to protect sources from the long arm of GW.

Ok, with that said lets get to it.

Let us start with 6th edition fluff progression.

The Imperium is fracturing and the Space Marines are starting to separate themselves from the Lords of Terra. The heretical and xenophobia has gotten to a tipping point causing many chapters to take actions against the “best wishes” of many in the Imperium.

A discovery of galactic importance has happened.

At a time before right before the Horus Heresy the Emperor had intrusted Roboute Guilliman in the protection of one Xenos race that was completely immune the temptations of Chaos and would prove the ultimate key to the destruction of Chaos. The Horus Heresy ended such plans. Fast forward today with discovery of these lost correspondences, it is believed by the Ultramarines and others that the Tau are that lost race. So now instead of being charge with their destruction the Astartes are the Tau protectors.

Rules changes
•Every unit gets a 6+ save vs. all Psychic Powers.
•Random Charge Lengths are in
•Pre-measuring is in.
•Random Battle field effects are in.
•All armies can purchase buildings for placement on the battlefield.
•Psychic powers are selected during deployment. (except Grey Knights)
•Deployment and Missions types have doubled.

Get ready for the Big one..

ALLIES ARE BACK IN

That is right allies are back in and this will be according to fluff and will have certain restrictions. So for instance Tyranids will not have any allies. Tau with all Space Marine Chapters. Necrons with Blood Angels. Imperial Guard with Space Marines. Chaos Space Marines with Demons. If it fits the fluff it will be done.

This is just to get you guys started.

Expect more to come out as we get closer to the impeding release of Warhammer 40k 6th edition.

Oh again forgot to mention in the CSM rumor post to add that Oblit options will be even more expansive with close combat load out available.

I personally hope it's bollocks, especially the Allies bit, but thought I'd share it anyway.

**Eiríkr**

Forgive my ignorance in this as I was still a kid when 2nd edition was out, is it a good thing that 6th rolls closer to it or?

**Sidstyler**

40k 6th edition is going to be much closer to Fantasy 8th

Wow, GW doesn't really learn, do they..."Let's go ahead and just ruin both systems, what do we care! lolz!"

Oh well, time to find something else to do with my time for the next 4 years. Here's hoping 7th edition isn't a pile of crap I guess.

And I'm sure all the Space Marine players out there will be absolutely thrilled that their armies are all supposed to babysit the Tau now.

**Pacific**

Regarding the background, I kind of like the idea of the Marines moving away from the Imperium as that kind of thing has been widely written about before. The Astartes chapters are already pretty autonomous so this would just be an extension of that.

The idea surrounding the Tau? That could be a game-breaker.
Consider our own history, religious dogma and attempts to introduce new elements to that religion and arguments about its form, the 'heresies' if you will. If you totalled up the number of people killed in the resulting wars over the past 2000 years you would have a pretty impressive sum.
Now think for a moment regarding the nature of the Imperium. It's religious traditions regarding the Emperor and the sanctity of humankind stretch back more than 10,000 years. The Inquisition of the 40k universe and their powers make the Catholic Inquisition look like a bunch of big girl's blouses by comparison. But at least in part such harsh penalties are by necessity - the constant threat of chaos meaning a fate worse than death can await entire systems if they fail in their task, which is why they hold the ultimate sanction in the form of exterminatus.
So, in a universe that must be full of a million crackpots and doom-sayers each coming up with their own version of events, how would the inhabitants of the year 40,000 view some kind of 'new' info proclaiming that the Tau must be protected, and that humans are no longer at the top of that divine tree? No matter how authentic it might be (perhaps the Emperor on a VHS vid saying "look this is real, honest!!") the current hierarchy within the Imperium - the massive power structures and modes of control, that make the Catholic church look like a yachting club by comparison, that extend to a million worlds would have a vested interest in ensuring that the 'evidence' never saw the light of day and the current hierarchy stayed in place.

Put simply, the entire concept (and I think this will be the case, no matter how well written), based on everything we have been told about the Imperium in the background over the past 20 years, is absolute nonsense.

**Kroothawk**

Sounds weird (except pre-measuring, Battle field effects, more missions. which all could be guesses). Don't like most of it. But sometimes BoK is the bearer of bad news (Sororitas WD only Codex).

Would it end Chaos Tau threads? Sadly no, but I would get new texts to copy-paste into those threads

Pacific wrote:The Inquisition of the 40k universe and their powers make the Catholic Inquisition look like a bunch of big girl's blouses by comparison.

You mean, the Inquisition would purge filthy Xenos with their Jokaero armies?

**The Infinite**

Don't fret, I remember hearing all those rumours regarding the change in the setting for 3rd edition...
and 4th...

I rate the likelihood of GW actually progressing the 40k storyline somewhere near to the likelihood of the Tooth fairy being real.

**CT GAMER**

If true I like the move to more mission/deployment types and more varied terrain and battlefield effects, etc.

These can lead to play variety and facilitate story-based/scenario play.

What I am worried about is the potential abuse of allies by the twink/mathhammer/tourney crowd: BA + Necrons?!? WTF?
(And these types won't be doing it for 'fluff reasons", they will be using it to optimize if possible)

**Azreal13**

Hmmmm..

This lot has crossed a line for me. The initial batch of rumours before the "server outage" were plausible, but I'm struggling with these TBH.

Especially the "these leaks are for the most part things that have been seen before from previous editions of Games Workshop games. This is to protect sources from the long arm of GW."

I read that as more "these are essentially rehashes and wishlisting, so I'm writing this to cover myself because 'a wizard did it' won't hold enough water"

**DarthSpader**

Pics or its wishlisting

**1hadhq**

Redemption wrote:http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2012/05/05/network-news-the-6th-edition-leak-and/

OMG finally finally my poor little site is fixed thanks for the patience everyone! So anyway it looks like I started some rumor spilling last week as everyone in the rumor mill decided to jump in the game. I hope what I am about to post is not already outdated, but with life and the server repair I haven’t have time to keep up.

Ok, let us get ready for some fun guys 6th is about two months away so let us set up some ground rules first off.

That leaked 6th edition pdf was and is still a complete fabrication.

40k 6th edition is going to be much closer to Fantasy 8th and 40k 2nd edition than anything else.

GW still has rumor lock down in place, so these leaks are for the most part things that have been seen before from previous editions of Games Workshop games. This is to protect sources from the long arm of GW.

Ok, with that said lets get to it.

Let us start with 6th edition fluff progression.

The Imperium is fracturing and the Space Marines are starting to separate themselves from the Lords of Terra. The heretical and xenophobia has gotten to a tipping point causing many chapters to take actions against the “best wishes” of many in the Imperium.

A discovery of galactic importance has happened.

At a time before right before the Horus Heresy the Emperor had intrusted Roboute Guilliman in the protection of one Xenos race that was completely immune the temptations of Chaos and would prove the ultimate key to the destruction of Chaos. The Horus Heresy ended such plans. Fast forward today with discovery of these lost correspondences, it is believed by the Ultramarines and others that the Tau are that lost race. So now instead of being charge with their destruction the Astartes are the Tau protectors.

Rules changes
•Every unit gets a 6+ save vs. all Psychic Powers.
•Random Charge Lengths are in
•Pre-measuring is in.
•Random Battle field effects are in.
•All armies can purchase buildings for placement on the battlefield.
•Psychic powers are selected during deployment. (except Grey Knights)
•Deployment and Missions types have doubled.

Get ready for the Big one..

ALLIES ARE BACK IN

That is right allies are back in and this will be according to fluff and will have certain restrictions. So for instance Tyranids will not have any allies. Tau with all Space Marine Chapters. Necrons with Blood Angels. Imperial Guard with Space Marines. Chaos Space Marines with Demons. If it fits the fluff it will be done.

This is just to get you guys started.

Expect more to come out as we get closer to the impeding release of Warhammer 40k 6th edition.

Oh again forgot to mention in the CSM rumor post to add that Oblit options will be even more expansive with close combat load out available.

I personally hope it's bollocks, especially the Allies bit, but thought I'd share it anyway.

Me too, these changes to the background are AWEFUL

- insert the new guys at pre heresy.
- protects them with the blue poster boys
- splits up the one realm that works because its united...
- re-introduces allies ...

Do not want.

**H.B.M.C.**

At a time before right before the Horus Heresy the Emperor had intrusted Roboute Guilliman in the protection of one Xenos race that was completely immune the temptations of Chaos and would prove the ultimate key to the destruction of Chaos.

Uhh... ok?

The Horus Heresy ended such plans. Fast forward today with discovery of these lost correspondences, it is believed by the Ultramarines and others that the Tau are that lost race.

No.

So now instead of being charge with their destruction the Astartes are the Tau protectors.

NO!

My Ultramarines do not protect the Tau. They kill the Tau. That is all they do. All the time. The Tau exist only to be killed.

This sounds... more than stupid. The Marines distancing themselves from the Lords of Terra - that I can see - but being the protectors of Tau? No, no, no and also no!

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Redemption wrote:Rules changes
•Every unit gets a 6+ save vs. all Psychic Powers.
•Random Charge Lengths are in
•Random Battle field effects are in.

Ah good. Let's add even more dice rolls to the game. That'll speed things up...

**Daston**

Sounds like BS to me.

The Necron and BA is proof of this.

**Sidstyler**

You have to, H. Your Spiritual Liege commands it.

**Kroothawk**

H.B.M.C. wrote:My Ultramarines do not protect the Tau. They kill the Tau. That is all they do. All the time. The Tau exist only to be killed.

You should step back a moment from your Deathwatch script

**gilljoy**

Only thing I like the sound of is the allies rule but really can't see this coming to pass

**Redemption**

Allies would completely screw over any sense of 'balance' 40k had. Remember when IG could take Daemonhunter Inquisitors with unlimited range Ld10 psychic hoods and anti-deepstrike Mystics? Now imagine that with every army capable of taking the strongest units from other codexes to cover their weaknesses.

**Darkseid**

The fluff part sounds BS, so does the allies part. I don't say that often, but this time I'll believe it when I see it.

**Kroothawk**

Redemption wrote:Allies would completely screw over any sense of 'balance' 40k had.

As said: More like Fantasy 8th edition

Will somebody sell a good print of the pancake rules?

**BrookM**

**Pacific**

That fluff? A load of bs.

I hope so too, but it is almost so ridiculous, that it passes the ridiculousness threshold where it might actually be true!

**AlexHolker**

What HBMC said. Space Marines live to kill xenos. Tau are xenos. Somebody - either GW or BoK - apparently can't do the math.

Also, stealing the Sisters' anti-psionic save sucks.

**gregornet**

Allowing almost every player multiple codices along with even more difficult processes for several key phases of the game? That does not at all sound like the streamlining process GW has adhered to in favor of their primary target market. I can, however see this as an effort to sell more minis without the sticker shock of starting an entirely new army. I remain skeptical.

**Miguelsan**

Rules changes
•Every unit gets a 6+ save vs. all Psychic Powers.
•Random Charge Lengths are in
Just what we need, GW pressing to up the point limit to 2000 and extra rolls to slow the game, what was that stuff about beer and preztels again?

•Pre-measuring is in.
Ok I can live with this.

•Random Battle field effects are in.
•All armies can purchase buildings for placement on the battlefield.
Sounds fun, I might love buying trenches for my whole IG army and play WWI

•Psychic powers are selected during deployment. (except Grey Knights)
Lets make it random too and see how Eldar players (I have an Eldar army too) weep about their Farseers.

•Deployment and Missions types have doubled.
Variety is never bad I guess.

M.

**NecronLord3**

Daston wrote:Sounds like BS to me.

The Necron and BA is proof of this.

Is that a joke, or have you not read the Blood Angels codex?

**DarkStarSabre**

...That fluff....My god.

However, the allies thing? I can see it.

Screws Tyranids over a peach because they forget their own fluff. (*Cough* Genestealer Cults).

**The Infinite**

Miguelsan wrote:
•Psychic powers are selected during deployment. (except Grey Knights)
Lets make it random too and see how Eldar players (I have an Eldar army too) weep about their Farseers.

Honestly, I've never liked how Farseers have the big Psychic powers for the Eldar. They should have more of an influence in things like first turn, deployment and mission selection; they're strategic operators, not tactical ones and their position on the battlefield always seems at odds with the whole description of their role.

Miguelsan wrote:
•Deployment and Missions types have doubled.
Variety is never bad I guess.

M.

Have a look at Dust Warfare's mission generator, if GW moved towards that I'd be a happy bunny (and if they used FoW's: You get the first turn? Then all of your army counts as moving that turn regardless).

**ZebioLizard2**

My Ultramarines do not protect the Tau. They kill the Tau. That is all they do. All the time. The Tau exist only to be killed.

But the Ultramarines has the current highest team up rate with tau as it currently is. What with their complete and utter hatred of the tyranids uniting them at times to kill them together.

You picked the wrong Chapter to hate the Tau with.

But lets put this down seriously.

Tau, being allied with all the space marines chapters.

Just.

Wat!?

**BrookM**

Yeah about that, the Black Templars would like to have a word with the witch who thought that up.

**lord_blackfang**

I could see a few of these things happening (like being able to buy Bastions as part of the army list) but that fluff is completely absurd.

This isn't even a decent made-up rumor, it's pure and obvious trolling.

**Slayer le boucher**

Redemption wrote:Allies would completely screw over any sense of 'balance' 40k

Oh man...i still shed tears from hilariousness!

, o god...balance in 40k...ahah...

If this pass i very well could see a few restrictions to not go overboard, like only Elite,Troops and FA choices can be taken as allies and you can only use 20% of your army points budget or something the like.