GK rumours - (blurry) Dreadknight pics on pg 19

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**aka_mythos**

Jaon wrote:They are one of two things:

1. They are piloted by living grey knights, they are simply vehicles, much like the Matrix defence suits or the Avatar AMP suits. They are sent out to combat greater daemons and soulgrinders, supporting the knights on the ground. The knight literally still wears his armour while piloting, and he may be exposed like a penitent engine because of this. May well be wearing terminator armour.

2. They are psychically controlled. Somewhere off battlefield a knight is using his mind to control the Dreadknight.

They are NOT:

- Dreadnoughts
- As big as a trygon
- Impossible to exit after use
- Knight-titans
- Mini-titans.
- toting 4 arms.

I am 100% sure all of this is correct. Trust me!

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In all honesty, this model need be no bigger than a daemon prince. Ok a little bigger, enough for the Knight be be wearing armour on armour. But I am heavily suspecting we will at least be able to see the GK pilot (in his armour)

The rumor I heard that was floating around was that its effectively a GK peninitent engine that may share components with a SoB kit. So thats kinda how I've pictured it.

**H.B.M.C.**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Now that's a good way to start the the day.

I like the Nuclear Options but something about the Death Deaths (is their armor black? tell me it's black) just sings to me.

I thought you might like the Death Deaths. The type of humour that created them is right up your alley.

Someone did take a half-way decent stab at making a colour scheme for them. It was black and some very dark greys.

**synack**

Death Deaths looks like something xzibit would come up with.

We put a Death in your Deaths, so you can die while you die.

**H.B.M.C.**

The Dreadknight does as well.

"Yo Dawg! We heard you like Grey Knights and armour? So we put a Grey Knight in some armour and then put him inside another suit of armour so you can Grey Knight when you Grey Knight and armour when you armour!"

**vaatbak**

H.B.M.C. wrote:The Dreadknight does as well.

"Yo Dawg! We heard you like Grey Knights and armour? So we put a Grey Knight in some armour and then put him inside another suit of armour so you can Grey Knight when you Grey Knight and armour when you armour!"

I was just waiting for somebody to make that joke, thank god it isn't me.

**Mad4Minis**

aka_mythos wrote:
The rumor I heard that was floating around was that its effectively a GK peninitent engine that may share components with a SoB kit. So thats kinda how I've pictured it.

Dear god I hope not, that thing is one of the worst GW models ever.

However, it would not surprise me. With all the cool ways the dreadknight could be done, I fully expect GW to drop the ball on this one.

It would also likely seal the deal on GW seeing 0 money form me this year. If the dreadknight is cool I may pick up a couple along with some GKTs, maybe a SC. However if it sucks I doubt Ill buy anything. No use in just having a GKT squad kicking around.

I am/was thinking about doing a Forgeworld order, but I may use the money on some Battletech/Macross model kits instead.

**Jaon**

I swear if we get a ChibiKnight I will throw GW through a window. I will still be forced to throw most of my life savins with them although...

The dreadknight could look really cool. I have high hopes. Also DOOMFISTS? I was under the impression they would be called wardfists, because HBMC said the name had something to do with the writer, which would mean it was ward

Wardfist doesnt sound so bad does it? Not as bad as Cruddfist thats for sure....

**vaatbak**

Jaon wrote:I swear if we get a ChibiKnight I will throw GW through a window. I will still be forced to throw most of my life savins with them although...

The dreadknight could look really cool. I have high hopes. Also DOOMFISTS? I was under the impression they would be called wardfists, because HBMC said the name had something to do with the writer, which would mean it was ward

Wardfist doesnt sound so bad does it? Not as bad as Cruddfist thats for sure....

KELLYFIST RIDING KELLYWOLVES HURR DURR.

**Gitzbitah**

Ah, his full name is Matt Doom Ward. Doom is his middle name.

**bhsman**

Do the fists actually do anything beyond just acting like a regular DCCW? What's the point in renaming it?

**Zefig**

Darn, I was hoping they'd turn out to be brofists.

I have high hopes for the Dreadknight regardless, and keep envisioning something vaguely ape-like in proportion, but composed of psychically animated plates of Aegis armor with an armored grey knight riding in the middle of it all. I've no doubt that the truth will be nothing like this, but I'll give whatever they DO come up with an honest chance before I go decrying it as OMG THE WURST THING EVARZ.

**sourclams**

Nemesis PsyBrofistfists?

**BladeWalker**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Yo Dawg! We heard you like Grey Knights and armour? So we put a Grey Knight in some armour and then put him inside another suit of armour so you can Grey Knight when you Grey Knight and armour when you armour!"

You win the thread sir.

**daedalus-templarius**

H.B.M.C. wrote:The Dreadknight does as well.

"Yo Dawg! We heard you like Grey Knights and armour? So we put a Grey Knight in some armour and then put him inside another suit of armour so you can Grey Knight when you Grey Knight and armour when you armour!"

+1000 internet win

this thread needs more leaked pics. Although, probably against the rules to post those, would be nice to see a Dreadknight with ultra-force fists and mega force halberd. Wait, they are using "nemesis" for the fancy name aren't they?

**Pyriel-**

Will the dreadknight count its CC attacks as powerweapons?
As DCCWs with S10?
Or just normal attacks with S6?

The twin fist option seem to give it A4 so it might be geared out for serious CC but it depends on what the fists counts as.

If the thing doesnt have any psychic power horde control I can very well see it´s weakness being bogged down by cheap cc models like wyches, fearless boys etc.

Edit:
Just realized it has S7 and holocaust that can be cast on itself with close to no risk.

But the nature of its close combat weapons is unclear.

**sourclams**

Being an MC means it's got count-as power weapons and +2d6 armor pen.

No reason it should have anything above its base S, as striking at S10 would be too over the top even for the super Leman Russ Punisher KhorneNurgleTzeentch Daemonhunters Prince.

The model itself might be tarpitable, but given the context of the list (I10 everybody-takes-a-wound-on-4+ power) I don't really see crowd control as a big problem for GK.

**BrassScorpion**

Regarding the comment someone made that the new Walker is not as big as a Trygon, I wouldn't count on that statement. It might very well be roughly that size.

The model itself might be tarpitable...

What was this supposed to mean, please?

**sourclams**

BrassScorpion wrote:
The model itself might be tarpitable...
What was this supposed to mean?

30 stubborn guardsmen charge the Nemesis Dreadknight and you just forget about it for the rest of the game. Not a problem with the GK crowd crushing psy power.

**Vhalyar**

Pyriel- wrote:The twin fist option seem to give it A4 so it might be geared out for serious CC but it depends on what the fists counts as.

H.M.B.C. seems to believe that the Dreadknight comes equiped with all four weapons, so no need to even "gear" the unit for CC.

Also, Marshal believes that Holocaust can be used and still allow the unit to fire:

Marshal Augustine;5298956 wrote:Holocast can be fired. Then the unit can fire.

So unless a horde can get the drop on the Dreadknight, they'll be eating Holocaust and the heavy psycannon in the same turn.

**VoidAngel**

Kanluwen wrote:And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I call BS on these rumours.

Why the feth are the Jokaero in the Grey Knights codex? Why they feth are they in an Imperial codex, at all?

The only mention previous was that the Jokaero were at one point known to be "masterful craftsmen, with some Inquisitors bearing digital weapons that were on par with the Jokaero's creations".

Two words: Ordo Xenos.

It's an all-three-factions book (if any of this is to be believed). There will have to be daemonhosts, space monkies, and girls wearing bits of toilet paper running around with giant chainsaws that can carve a hole in a titan.

If anything, Jokaero support and are supported by rumors of an all Inquisition codex.

That's why.

**H.B.M.C.**

Vhalyar wrote:H.M.B.C. seems to believe that the Dreadknight comes equiped with all four weapons, so no need to even "gear" the unit for CC.

I believe that it can have two guns in addition to its CCW's, not that it will automatically come with them.

And who is "HMBC"?

**aka_mythos**

The poster now known as "Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar"?

**Cerebrium**

Dreadknight could either be amazing or horrible. There is no middle ground for a model with such a mad concept.

**ColdSadHungry**

It's interesting how there are several sources on here, all of whom think they are absolutely correct about the upcoming Grey Knight codex. The fact that many of them can't agree on various things mean that at least someone is actually, absolutely incorrect. Boy am I glad I'm not that person when the new codex comes out

But, I love reading this kind of thread so, right or wrong, thanks to everyone who's sticking their necks out on this one!

**Kingsley**

Pyriel- wrote:
Actually, the biggest problem is that WS3 BS3 S3 T3 Guardsmen are beefy ubermenschen Arnold types. And their plastics are at least a half-head too tall.

Is there somewhere amongst the rules a statline for "normal" humans, like civvies?

I believe Sanctioned Psykers, who are not really trained to the same standards as the Guard, are WS and S 2. Keep in mind that the true "maximum humans" get above S3/T3-- Harker is S4/T3 with Feel No Pain, Yarrick and Schaeffer are T4, and Straken is S6/T4, albeit with extensive modifications.

**sourclams**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Vhalyar wrote:H.M.B.C. seems to believe that the Dreadknight comes equiped with all four weapons, so no need to even "gear" the unit for CC.

I believe that it can have two guns in addition to its CCW's, not that it will automatically come with them.

Suggesting that the 'fully loaded' Dreadknight is more than the starting 130 pts + 75 for teleporter? It seems like an MC with far better than average CC and the kind of weapon loadout being discussed should be closer to 250 or so if the 'Nid dex is anything to go by for comparison's sake.

**aka_mythos**

ColdSadHungry wrote:It's interesting how there are several sources on here, all of whom think they are absolutely correct about the upcoming Grey Knight codex. The fact that many of them can't agree on various things mean that at least someone is actually, absolutely incorrect. Boy am I glad I'm not that person when the new codex comes out

But, I love reading this kind of thread so, right or wrong, thanks to everyone who's sticking their necks out on this one!

99% of the time these inconsistencies come from when their respective source got their information. Different people see different versions at different point in writing process. Changes are made along the way and create the contradictions.

**ColdSadHungry**

Going back to the hardback/softcover thing. The new orcs and goblins hardback is £22.50. So that's only £5 more than the softcover codices.

Not great that it's more expensive but it's a small price increase that I could live with so long as there's more fluff, how to guides and pictures of fully painted models etc etc.

Sorry if this has been mentioned already but I just can't bring myself to trawl thru 16 pages of this to see.

**Jaon**

Im not sure what your asking Coldsadhungry ???

**ThunderfireMac**

When will we se some models?