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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 12:02:49
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
Sweden
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Do you think a Sister of Battle would ever submit to Chaos or otherwise go renegade? Or are they immune like the Grey Knights?
I just thought a Sisters of Chaos army would look badass.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/29 12:16:22
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 13:20:20
Subject: Re:Sisters of Chaos???
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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 The SoB are so extra-immune...other forces smear their lifeblood on thier armor to participate in their immunity...
I'd wait for the release of chaos to see who is a possible follower in 6th ed.
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Target locked,ready to fire
In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
H.B.M.C :
We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 14:08:37
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Mirael Sabathiel. My recommendation - bomb from orbit. DO NOT MAKE CONTACT. Perhaps even exterminatus. She has turned an entire Mission of Sisters initially sent to eliminate her and even a squad of Black Templars to the Dark Prince.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/29 14:15:17
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 14:18:12
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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Yeah, Sisters can be corrupted. GW has made a special effort at depicting this at every opportunity until recently. GW's new model (C:GK) is just to show them being murdered and mutilated by their "incorruptible" allies despite not being corrupt themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 15:25:19
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
Bethlehem, PA
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Blasphemer! The sisters will never fall to chaos. People that skewer their reports to say otherwise shall be purged.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 16:44:53
Subject: Re:Sisters of Chaos???
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Lady of the Lake
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I'll get this ready and leave it over here for later. It will be needed.
Only one sister has ever willingly fallen to Chaos. The idea is usually met with the same reception as Chaos Grey Knights, Chaos Tau, Female Marines, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 16:49:08
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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yes they can turn to Chaos, and you can make certain people extra mad about it by modeling them to have turned to Slaanesh.
You can find some examples of models by throwing Chaos Battle Sisters into Google.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:13:41
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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There's one "official" SOB who's willingly turned to Chaos (however coerced that fall may have been). Outside of that? Hasn't happened in studio sources.
Making it a frequent event kind of ruins the impact of the character of Mirael Sabathiel.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:15:58
Subject: Re:Sisters of Chaos???
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
Sweden
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Mirael Sabathiel sounds like a perfect candidate. I doubt I'd get to play with such an army, but it would be a nice and fluffy one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:32:41
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Well, she's not an army, she's a single character. You could probably use her as an IC in a CSM or Daemon army, but she alone is the only Fallen Sister. I'm not sure where Tadashi is getting that she turned a Mission of Sisters and some Black Templars.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:41:23
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
Sweden
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Psienesis wrote:Well, she's not an army, she's a single character. You could probably use her as an IC in a CSM or Daemon army, but she alone is the only Fallen Sister. I'm not sure where Tadashi is getting that she turned a Mission of Sisters and some Black Templars.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Miriael_Sabathiel This article says, or at least implies, that she turned over some Sisters and Black Templars to her side.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:42:48
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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She's not the only fallen Sister. She's the only one who turned voluntarily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:42:48
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Lady of the Lake
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Don't take 40k wikia seriously, it treats fan written material as fact and tends to be spotty at times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:46:12
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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Well, it's definitely true that she's not the only SoB who's ever worshiped Chaos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:50:59
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Tadashi wrote:Mirael Sabathiel. My recommendation - bomb from orbit. DO NOT MAKE CONTACT. Perhaps even exterminatus. She has turned an entire Mission of Sisters initially sent to eliminate her and even a squad of Black Templars to the Dark Prince.
I happen to know the last bit was written by a fan. There is (sadly) nothing about Miriael other than a short story by Dan Abnett (where she kills her former Canoness) and her cards in the Dark Millennium TCG. That being said, they do make her look impressive - Miriael Sabathiel has her own private "crusade" force with whom to pillage the Pyrus Reach, leading her terrible armies from an Inferno-class battlecruiser and including a bodyguard of Emperor's Children Terminators and Daemonettes in her retinue. No other Sisters, though.
Another incident from licensed material where a whole bunch of Sisters was turned to Chaos happened in the graphic novel " Daemonifuge". In it, a captured Keeper of Secrets managed to subtly influence the Sisters Pronatus who were experimenting on it, which ended with most of the convent's inhabitants being driven mad and subsequently possessed by Chaos. Unlike with the charismatic and intelligent (and thus all the more dangerous Miriael), the resulting band of "Chaos Sisters" had little resemblance to their former selfs, though - essentially, they were a bunch of hideous demons with vague Sororitas-like features in their hair and the deformed wargear, mindlessly throwing themselves at whoever their master, said Keeper of Secrets, wished destroyed.
In general, the Adepta Sororitas have always been described as nigh-incorruptible (due to their humble and devoted lifestyle as well as various cleansing and castigation rituals or pre-novitiate genetic screenings), which was reflected in Abnett's "The Invitation" by Miriael being presented as a horrific exception that had never occurred before (and led the local Governor dismiss reports of her as a sham at first) - but of course another interpretation might be that other incidents have simply been well hidden, any witnesses eliminated or mindwiped to ensure the continueing prevalence of the Sisterhood's image of shining purity. GW studio material itself does not mention turned Sisters anywhere; there is one paragraph in the 5E Grey Knights Codex where it mentions a group of Sisters being corrupted by a demonic "Bloodtide", yet apparently this had only a weakening effect on them as the text goes on to describe not how the victims turned against their former Sisters, but are instead slaughtered by the boss demon's Bloodletters.
It should be pointed out that, unlike often claimed throughout the fandom, 40k does not follow any dictated canon or consistency (so explained by various writers and game designers who have to know, such as Gav Thorpe, Andy Hoare or Aaron Dembski-Bowden), which is the reason for the occasional conflict between various books. This means that you as the player are free to pick and choose your preferred interpretation. Do you subscribe solely to GW material where not a single Sister has ever served Chaos? Alright. Do you want a whole bunch of Chaos Sisters as their own army? Go right ahead. Or do you prefer a single Miriael-like individual in the HQ of a CSM warband? That's perfectly fine as well. You decide, and neither outcome can be "wrong". It all depends on which particular sources you want to stick to, as at times they present different versions of the same theme. Loyalty, devotion, purity and resilience against taint is one of the Sisters' main themes in GW's own books, however, so I would recommend at least a very good explanation if you wish to deviate from this image, just so that you increase your army's compatibility to other people's perception of the setting.
Enjoy converting!
[edit] added a bunch o' links
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:55:59
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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If GW falls down low enough to make "sisters of chaos", they will propably make a whole seris of models ranging from chaos inquisition, chaos necrons to chaos orks and chaos tyranids and even CHAOS chaos space marines (Double heresy?!)  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:57:32
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Manchu wrote:She's not the only fallen Sister. She's the only one who turned voluntarily.
This is the important distinction for sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:58:34
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Miriael did not turn "voluntarily", she was tortured and who-knows-what by the Emperor's Children for months.
And GW books still do not mention a single Chaos Sister ever, so it's anyone's guess.  I do think Miriael is awesome, however, so I adopted her into my personal interpretation of the 'verse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 17:59:48
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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Chaos Inquisition = GK
Chaos Chaos Space Marines = BT
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:02:59
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Manchu wrote:Chaos Inquisition = GK
The Dark Millennium TCG actually does include a Radical Inquisitor and his forces allied with Chaos!
It's not unthinkable, I guess.
Manchu wrote:Chaos Chaos Space Marines = BT
Not Space Wolves?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:09:06
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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No, the SW are bred true by the Emperor's own hand. BT are hate heresy so much that they'll commit heresy to end heresy. Basically, heresy heresy heresy heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:12:43
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Manchu wrote:No, the SW are bred true by the Emperor's own hand.
Well, I'm sure people would have said that about Horus some time ago.
SW have a mutated geneseed causing them to go into mindless rage, and they reportedly commit heretical rituals in their fortress. I smell Khorne.
Matter of interpretation, tho.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:12:44
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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Lynata wrote:Miriael did not turn "voluntarily", she was tortured and who-knows-what by the Emperor's Children for months.
I guess it's true that we don't know one way or the other. Since she seems to have been granted daemonic powers, rather than simply being possessed against her will as with others, I figured she must have cooperated (in the sense of what we Catholics call obsequium religiosum).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:13:01
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Ahh..
Chaos Sisters, check.
Nuh uh, check.
Miriel, check.
Bloodtide reference, check
Manchu and Lynata, check
Man, I hadn't realized a week had passed already.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:13:31
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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Lynata wrote:Matter of interpretation, tho.
I would have agreed before Prospero Falls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:14:07
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Solahma
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pretre wrote:Man, I hadn't realized a week had passed already. 
And now pretre ... check. All that's left is Melissia.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:14:30
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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pretre wrote:Ahh..
Chaos Sisters, check.
Nuh uh, check.
Miriel, check.
Bloodtide reference, check
Manchu and Lynata, check
Man, I hadn't realized a week had passed already. 
^ best thread summary ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:16:22
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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pretre wrote:Ahh..
Chaos Sisters, check.
Nuh uh, check.
Miriel, check.
Bloodtide reference, check
Manchu and Lynata, check
Man, I hadn't realized a week had passed already. 
Missed a couple:
GW are Chaos, check
SW are khorne worshippers, check
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:16:36
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Manchu wrote:pretre wrote:Man, I hadn't realized a week had passed already. 
And now pretre ... check. All that's left is Melissia.
I'll fill in for Mel here.
Sisters do not turn to Chaos.
The idea that they turn is so silly that it warrants no real discussion and it makes my brain hurt.
The only reason we have Miriael is that she is a holdover of old fluff; which for some reason continues to be kept around like that weird neighbor you have who stuffed his poodle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/29 18:16:58
Subject: Sisters of Chaos???
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Manchu wrote:pretre wrote:Man, I hadn't realized a week had passed already. 
And now pretre ... check. All that's left is Melissia.
Be careful. She's like Beetlejuice, but with more key words and harder to get rid of.
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