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So, if GW release a new battleforce for CSM (or any army) what do you think should be in it, and how much should it be priced at.
Discuss!

Would be cool for grey knights to get one, something like 10 marines, 5 terminators and a dreadknight or something.

Seems strange being to only army without one

GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

I want the new SM one to have something instead of the combat squad, maybe a command squad or a speeder/ speeder storm?

Kal-El wrote:
GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

I'll have to check out the new WD, ive seen the tau one before, would love to see if they release a IG or Chaos one.

Kal-El wrote:
GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

Do you have any idea whats in the megaforces? especially SM as I have yet to pick the white dwarf up

matapata98 wrote:

Kal-El wrote:
GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

Do you have any idea whats in the megaforces? especially SM as I have yet to pick the white dwarf up

Just found out, in the SM one there is a scout squad, land raider, drop pod, razorback, dreadnought, two tac squads and i think a command squad.
Crons - 2 Warrior squads, 1 immortal squad, triach stalker, 2 tomb blade squads, ghost ark, command barge and a canoptek spider.

matapata98 wrote:

Kal-El wrote:
GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

Do you have any idea whats in the megaforces? especially SM as I have yet to pick the white dwarf up

Commander, command squad, tactical squad, combat squad, scout squad, razorback, drop-pod, ironclad, crusader/redeemer

New Chaos Marine force :

1 Terminator lord/sorcerer

10 CSM

40 Cultists

4 Terminators

Rhino

tuiman wrote:

matapata98 wrote:

Kal-El wrote:
GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

Do you have any idea whats in the megaforces? especially SM as I have yet to pick the white dwarf up

Commander, command squad, tactical squad, combat squad, scout squad, razorback, drop-pod, ironclad, crusader/redeemer

where did you find that? in the WD? do you have any pics?

Space Marine
1 Commander
x2 Tactical Squad
1 Rhino
1 Predator

Kal-El wrote:
GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

The megaforces are a limited-time holiday bundle sort of dealie. They did a Marine one and a Dark Eldar one last year. They won't be doing them for every army or anything.

matapata98 wrote:

tuiman wrote:

matapata98 wrote:

Kal-El wrote:
GW is releasing things called mega forces. Its in the newest WD. They have a necron and sm version so far. They offered some really good entry units and some not so good units. These are bigger than the battle force.

I honestly can't say what I think would be good in a battle force because I would pick units that appealed to me more and would be biased.

Do you have any idea whats in the megaforces? especially SM as I have yet to pick the white dwarf up

Commander, command squad, tactical squad, combat squad, scout squad, razorback, drop-pod, ironclad, crusader/redeemer

where did you find that? in the WD? do you have any pics?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/483354.page

GKs definitly need one.

I think a squad of 10 PAGKs, rhino, 5 terminators, and a Dreadknight would be good.

THey should do an IG one with 2x chimeras 2x inf squads and 1x command squad

I'd like them to bring back the Black Templar army deal from way back.

Had like... 5 terminators, assault troops, scouts, tactical squad, combat squad, Emperors Champion, Chapter master, Chaplain, bikes, landraider, rhino, the list went on in that one.

Best deal on Space Marine stuff... ever, I think.

Still can't believe the Tyranids doesn't have a single Monstrous Creature in it. That needs to be remedied sharpish.

i like the ones like black reach wear you get 2 armys for one.
tau vs orks/spacewolves
eldar vs slanesh/dark eldar
tau vs guardsmen
orks vs orks!

In the tau vs orks farsight comes in the box too for the HQ.

I'm going to post my "wishlist" battleforce for each army, keeping the monetary value for each box about the same.

Blood Angels: This box is pretty much perfect as it is.
Chaos Daemons: I'm not well versed on Daemons as an army, but it seems decent. I'd like a way to squeeze in the new plaugebearers and flamers though.
Chaos Space Marines: The Possessed should be either Raptors or Terminators. Otherwise the box is good.
Dark Eldar: This box seems very good to me.
Eldar: The only change I would maybe make would be to give them a few Jet Bikes instead of a War Walker. However, if they released plastic non-dire avenger aspect warriors, those would easily fill the slot.
Imperial Guard: I would like to see either a Chimera or a Leman Russ in the Battleforce. Perhaps make it 2 infantry platoons, 1 command platoon, 1 tank?
Necrons: The biggest issue with this box is that there are no exciting toys to play with. I would drop 10 warriors to give Crons either a Catacomb/Annihilation Barge or a Scythe.
Orks: Another really good box. If I were to make any changes, I would either drop the a mob for either Lootas/Burnas or Stormboyz
Space Marines: I would argue that Codex Marines have the worst battleforce. I would drop the assault squad, the 5 man combat squad, and the scouts right off the bat. I would then replace them with a Scout Sniper squad and either a land speeder (with appropriate cost reduction) or a Predator. I could also see the Rhino being substituted for a Drop Pod.
Space Wolves: Their kit is fairly good, although I'd probably swap the Blood Claws for a Devestator squad.
Tau: I'd drop the Kroot and the Stealth Team for two more Crisis Suits.
Tyrannids: They are currently the only battleforce of all little dudes. I'd drop the Genestealers and the Hormagaunts for either a Fex or a Tervigon.
Dark Angels Ravenwing: A solid battleforce giving you 6 bikes and a speeder.

New Battleforces:
Grey Knights: I would give grey knights 1 Strike Squad, 1 Razorback, and 1 Terminator Squad and price it at about $120 Canadian (That combinations would be about $145 CND if purchased individually).
Dark Angels Deathwing: 1 Tactical Terminator Squad, One Land Raider. $130.

Krieg B-Force

1x PCS 2x Guardmen Squads 1x Grenadiers Squad Heavy Mortar/Thudd Gun w/ minimum crewman need.

RegalPhantom wrote:
I'm going to post my "wishlist" battleforce for each army, keeping the monetary value for each box about the same.

Blood Angels: This box is pretty much perfect as it is.
Chaos Daemons: I'm not well versed on Daemons as an army, but it seems decent. I'd like a way to squeeze in the new plaugebearers and flamers though.
Chaos Space Marines: The Possessed should be either Raptors or Terminators. Otherwise the box is good.
Dark Eldar: This box seems very good to me.
Eldar: The only change I would maybe make would be to give them a few Jet Bikes instead of a War Walker. However, if they released plastic non-dire avenger aspect warriors, those would easily fill the slot.
Imperial Guard: I would like to see either a Chimera or a Leman Russ in the Battleforce. Perhaps make it 2 infantry platoons, 1 command platoon, 1 tank?
Necrons: The biggest issue with this box is that there are no exciting toys to play with. I would drop 10 warriors to give Crons either a Catacomb/Annihilation Barge or a Scythe.
Orks: Another really good box. If I were to make any changes, I would either drop the a mob for either Lootas/Burnas or Stormboyz
Space Marines: I would argue that Codex Marines have the worst battleforce. I would drop the assault squad, the 5 man combat squad, and the scouts right off the bat. I would then replace them with a Scout Sniper squad and either a land speeder (with appropriate cost reduction) or a Predator. I could also see the Rhino being substituted for a Drop Pod.
Space Wolves: Their kit is fairly good, although I'd probably swap the Blood Claws for a Devestator squad.
Tau: I'd drop the Kroot and the Stealth Team for two more Crisis Suits.
Tyrannids: They are currently the only battleforce of all little dudes. I'd drop the Genestealers and the Hormagaunts for either a Fex or a Tervigon.
Dark Angels Ravenwing: A solid battleforce giving you 6 bikes and a speeder.

New Battleforces:
Grey Knights: I would give grey knights 1 Strike Squad, 1 Razorback, and 1 Terminator Squad and price it at about $120 Canadian (That combinations would be about $145 CND if purchased individually).
Dark Angels Deathwing: 1 Tactical Terminator Squad, One Land Raider. $130.

...Doesn't the IG Battleforce already have a Leman Russ? And the Stealthsuits in the Tau battleforce are actually pretty good in small games, dropping the Kroot for another Crisis suit makes more sense.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
...Doesn't the IG Battleforce already have a Leman Russ?

Used to. Now it has the stupid metal chicken.

Megaforces are just a fancy way of saying "GW Christmas deal".

I agree that the imperial guard one is dumb. You can't make a real guard army with one. Not even close. You do get two squads of infantry, and an officer squad, but in order to field them as a mechvet list, you need to buy three chimeras and a bunch of special weapons. If you want to run foot guard, you could buy two battleforces and STILL not be able to field a legal list.

I almost think they should have two battleforces for guard. One that comes with 4 squads of infantry, and officer squad and 3 heavy weapons teams, and a separate box that comes with 3 chimeras, a russ, and 3 of the special weapons booster packs.

That way, you could make a serious foot list with two of the infantry battleforces, and you could make a serious mech list with one of each of them.

Plus, as they'd have different things in them, it's not like they'd be cannibalizing sales or anything.

Ideally, I'd want every battleforce to be able to make a basic army. Make it an actual... you know... battleforce. Preferably with all of them balancing out at the same point-values (but this would be difficult, due to disparity between point vs. monetary costs, and is excusable, so long as some sense goes into it).

As far as I know, the only Battleforce capable of actually working like that is the Tau one. And knowing GW, they'll probably take out half the goodies from that one (but keep the price!) when the codex gets its update.

Every BF box should have 1 HQ, 2 troops, and a Transport, where possible, and be useful to newbie players as a gateway to the game. The final element should be something fun to play.

Space Marines: Captain, Tac squad, Sniper Squad, Pod and one of either assualt squad, bikes, speeder.
CSM: Lord, Chaos Marines sqaud, Cultists, Rhino and either bikers, raptors
Daemons: DP, Nurglings, Bloodletters, horrors, and either seekers, screamers, flamers
Guard: Command squad, Troops, H. Weapons team, Chimera and a Valkyrie (fun and transport)
Tau. Battle suit, firewarriors x2 devifish and either Piranha, broadsidex2

ect ect. Each of these boxes is an efficient way to start an army, as well as being useful to players who are looking to expand a force. More troops coices is always good.

I agree with Hetelic.
The box's should contain the basics for getting started where possible.
Obviously the main rule is that it needs to be plastic, so not all armies could do this yet.

But something like this for space marines:

Commander
Tac squad
Tac squad
Rhino

Just a nice, basic start to an army, as they were initially designed for.
However, it now seems as if they are used to sell the less commonly seen units.

Great Ideas guys. I strongly believe that the Battleforces should be a (somewhat) basic army straight out the box. Easy to use as a starter army, and easy to use for adding to a pre-existing army. As for IG, I think the sentinel, and maybe the HW teams should be thrown out for a Leman or two chimeras. The CSM Battleforce, i think should not have the worthless possessed, and instead should have a Raptor squad or termie squad.

I think with the IG box it should be something like 2 Infantry Squads, 1 CCS, 3 Chimeras, and maybe a special weapons sprue. That way we can make a semi-basic Mechvet army. I think each battleforce should provide frameworks for at least aa 500 point army. Like something you could buy to jump-start an army and try it out.

 Tyriion wrote:
So, if GW release a new battleforce for CSM (or any army) what do you think should be in it, and how much should it be priced at.
Discuss!

I want an all foot SM box.
Commander
Command Squad
Two Tactical Squads
Devastator Squad

 Bobthehero wrote:
Krieg B-Force

1x PCS 2x Guardmen Squads 1x Grenadiers Squad Heavy Mortar/Thudd Gun w/ minimum crewman need.

Add 1x Commissar General and a Squad of Engineers.

Starter army there.