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Why would World Eaters have Havocs? Arne't they the in your face chapter? I always assumed they would deal with armour the same way orcs do. Dudes on bikes with fists.

Khorne should represent martial prowess in all its forms, including gunplay. It's just unfortunate that the Chaos Gods have been distilled into pale shadows of their former selves. Now all Khorne does is "RAAAR! KILL! MAIM! CUT HEADS OFF! GRRR! ANGRY!" which is disturbingly dull.

I want the old rivalries to come back the way they were meant to be:

Khorne - Power through Focus vs Slaanesh - Power through Excess

Nurgle - Power through Stagnation vs Tzeentch - Power through Change

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:Khorne should represent martial prowess in all its forms, including gunplay. It's just unfortunate that the Chaos Gods have been distilled into pale shadows of their former selves. Now all Khorne does is "RAAAR! KILL! MAIM! CUT HEADS OFF! GRRR! ANGRY!" which is disturbingly dull.

I want the old rivalries to come back the way they were meant to be:

Khorne - Power through Focus vs Slaanesh - Power through Excess

Nurgle - Power through Stagnation vs Tzeentch - Power through Change

BYE

That reminds me of my 20,000 + Chaos army I am in the progress of building. I call it, "You can do it in Apocalypse". Best part, I can toss in demons and a couple Soul Grinders without messing around with their stupid HQ options. I have already started.



I am going to have to remember that one. Maybe I will convert slutty knife chicks out of the plastic range and use metal demonettes.

note: The washers are 50mm for Warmachine and Hordes, if you are wondering. The bitz come from the Warstore. Got some cool stuff. Ogres and Beastmen with Imperial weaponry. Not to go off topic.

Ratbarf wrote:Why would World Eaters have Havocs? Arne't they the in your face chapter?

World Eaters have always had Havocs - Khorne doesn't care if the skulls are from a chainsword or a heavy bolter. Of course, World Eaters were dumbed down and their so-called, once-vaunted martial prowess was reduced to being a mindless wind-up... That was a lot of fun to watch.

In this respect, the 5E Codex is much preferred having Berzerkers as Troops, along with many MoK options gets things very close. The only missing element are the high-detail Daemons.

i have Q about the thunderfire gun if you kill the techmarine is the gun removed/unable to fire or do i need to take them both out ?

Brightdarkness wrote:i have Q about the thunderfire gun if you kill the techmarine is the gun removed/unable to fire or do i need to take them both out ?

Artillery guns are removed from play if the crew is wiped out.

Can anyone confirm the following:
1. Space Marines are mammals
2. Space Marines fight ALL the time
3. The purpose of a Space Marine is to flip out and kill people

4. Sarcasm to that degree on page 18 of a thread that was played out long ago AND for a Codex that is released this weekend? Not priceless.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Ratbarf wrote:Why would World Eaters have Havocs? Arne't they the in your face chapter?

World Eaters have always had Havocs - Khorne doesn't care if the skulls are from a chainsword or a heavy bolter. Of course, World Eaters were dumbed down and their so-called, once-vaunted martial prowess was reduced to being a mindless wind-up... That was a lot of fun to watch.

In this respect, the 5E Codex is much preferred having Berzerkers as Troops, along with many MoK options gets things very close. The only missing element are the high-detail Daemons.

With the advent of the latest Codex, it would appear that the 4 Legions are paragons of their God's way. Ergo, all World Eaters are indeed Bezerkers (especially with the mental enhancement to really make them loonies) but not all Bezerkers are World Eaters.

Thus, a Khornate Army could well have Havocs marked by Khorne, but World Eaters are unlikely to. Hell, they preferred HTH anyways.

scouts if i remember right are now WS & BS 3. Im happy for that because my brother used ALOT of scouts because they were cheaper marines with a 4+ save. so he would usually over run my renegades with bolter fire. that makes me happy because now they are basically glorified IG lmao

Scouts are not glorified IG. A power weapon hits at I 4. A fist hits at strenght 8 not 6. they have infiltrate which makes all the difference in the world. They can ride in a landspeeder. No IG can do any of those things.

Bodichi wrote:Scouts are not glorified IG. A power weapon hits at I 4. A fist hits at strenght 8 not 6. they have infiltrate which makes all the difference in the world. They can ride in a landspeeder. No IG can do any of those things.

Plenty of Guard can Infiltrate. And, come to think of it, plenty of Guard have Power Weapons hitting at I 4.

But who's taking Power Weapons in a Guard army???

BYE

Savnock wrote:Another new thing, haven't seen this anywhere: Servitors now do nothing on a 1-2 on a D6, tested for every turn. They pass automatically when accompanied by a techmarine/Master of the Forge. They can be bought as separate units though, and not as gear for the techmarine. Didn't check out unit size, costs, etc. unfortunately. Not optimal at all, but will be fun rules to use for some custom scenario battles.

Anyone have any info on servitor squads minus the techmarine?

They're a unit that has no new models, therefore they got crappy rules.

End of story.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:They're a unit that has no new models, therefore they got crappy rules.

End of story.

BYE

Yes, but how im needing info on the unit itself. Unit size, options, that sort of thing. I dont care about point costs.

Oh and rules are for chumps. I solely choose units based on how they look, or fluff reasons. That said, I also never win a game.

redstarone wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:They're a unit that has no new models, therefore they got crappy rules.

End of story.

BYE

Yes, but how im needing info on the unit itself. Unit size, options, that sort of thing. I dont care about point costs.

Oh and rules are for chumps. I solely choose units based on how they look, or fluff reasons. That said, I also never win a game.

Can have one unit per techmarine or master of the forge. Squad size is one to five, two can have hb, melta, or plasma.

Given the abundance of 4+ cover they might work, and two Plasmas or HBs can't be a bad thing.

Sadly their points are off, with the first one costing 10, and then the others cost 15 each!?!?!?!?!

5 of them plus a Techmarine and 2 HBs is 160 points.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:Given the abundance of 4+ cover they might work, and two Plasmas or HBs can't be a bad thing.

Sadly their points are off, with the first one costing 10, and then the others cost 15 each!?!?!?!?!

5 of them plus a Techmarine and 2 HBs is 160 points.

BYE

Which is why in comparison to an allied inquisitor it's not a good buy, unless you REALLY want that techmarine, or two plasma cannons. Elite Inquisitor with psycannon, and 3 servitors with heavy bolters is 125, and can be upgraded with useful things like mystics.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Khorne should represent martial prowess in all its forms, including gunplay. It's just unfortunate that the Chaos Gods have been distilled into pale shadows of their former selves. Now all Khorne does is "RAAAR! KILL! MAIM! CUT HEADS OFF! GRRR! ANGRY!" which is disturbingly dull.

I want the old rivalries to come back the way they were meant to be:

Khorne - Power through Focus vs Slaanesh - Power through Excess

Nurgle - Power through Stagnation vs Tzeentch - Power through Change

BYE

The Legions have evolved though.

A majority of Chaos Marines are basically Pirates, allying together to perform an attack, and then going their seperate ways.

And now, the Legions stand for the glorious extremes of their Gods. Those so inclined will join those Legions, and the former Legionnaires who did not feel their Gods calling so strongly left to form their own force. The forces of Chaos, in their organisation, are simply nowhere near as rigidly drawn as the Imperiums. At least, not until you dedicate yourself utterly to the Legion of a specific God.