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I don't think we'll see much of a change, at least for the time being. Disney bought Lucasfilms in its entirity had they just been more piecemeal and purchased only the IP then I think things would change. Buying it in its entirity as they did shows at least some interest in maintaining the status quo on the buisness side. Image and IP management has probably been Lucasfilms biggest successes, so I can't see Disney throwing that out.
I suspect that the contract would be x years maybe they are meeting Disney now to extend the license to include the new film material or ships that show up in clones wars perhaps.
yeah, Lets all email disney and ask that GW handles a 28mm Star Wars miniature line... Say what you want about GW but they got good mileage out of the LOTRs films... I'd love to see that done with Star Wars.
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Panic...
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Panic wrote: yeah,
Lets all email disney and ask that GW handles a 28mm Star Wars miniature line...
Say what you want about GW but they got good mileage out of the LOTRs films... I'd love to see that done with Star Wars.
Panic...
I don't know. You'd get too much complaining that you can't raid the models for bitz.
Besides, I'm assuming Knight Models already has that license.
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Secondly, calling them a "munchkin craft" is silly. We don't know what the rules would be and you're assuming FFG wouldn't be able to write a balanced set of rules for it.
aka_mythos wrote: When you look at its description it's easy to imagine it simply as an Imperial equivalent to the X-wing.
Quite a bit superior to an X-Wing actually. Better weapons, better shields, faster than TIE/Ints and A-Wings. The TIE/d is one of the best fighters around... it just wasn't very widespread by the time the Empire fell. They were still using them years later, but they became exceptionally rare.
aka_mythos wrote: When you look at its description it's easy to imagine it simply as an Imperial equivalent to the X-wing.
With a tractor beam and an ion cannon.
Those would be equipment cards in this game, which would carry additional costs, beyond that of the most generic pilot. Its no different than this game deals with Y-wing ion cannons.
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Quite a bit superior to an X-Wing actually. Better weapons, better shields, faster than TIE/Ints and A-Wings. The TIE/d is one of the best fighters around... it just wasn't very widespread by the time the Empire fell. They were still using them years later, but they became exceptionally rare.
Fair enough. If the game supports the Millenium Falcon and Slave1 I don't think a Tie Defender is neccessarily over powered.
From what I can gather the TIE/Ints and A-Wings... have the new "boost" which looks like an extra move taken as an action. The game would likely approach representing the TIE/d's speed with that same rule. The basic laser loadouts for the Tie/D are identical to the TIE/d, giving it a "3" for offensive. With the ability to mount Ion cannons and Concussion Missiles, it'd be able to take equipment upgrades. It's atleast structuraly and defensively comparable to the TIE/in so it would be atleast a 3.
Shields are where it'd get complicated... X-wings are a "2" while fluff wise the Y-wing has 50% more shields is appropriately a "3".... but a TIE/d is suppose to have 4 times that of an X-wing. An "8" certainly would be game breaking. Though the Millenium Falcon despite its significantly upgraded shields is only a "5" (based on a lot of squinting)... Implying the scale isn't necessarily linear.
So a TIE/d would be 3/3/3/4 with boost, focus. Even with a generic pilot it'd be pricey to take.
The Empire got their hands on exactly two. One was kept for study and analysis, while the other was used by the protagonist in TIE Fighter. The only others that were seen after Zaarin's attempt to kidnap the Emperor were used by Zaarin's forces to support his insurrection (which is why the even more munchkiny Missile Boat was introduced).
All plans and production facilities were owned by Zaarin, and would have been destroyed by Thrawn as part of his systematic reduction of Zaarin's forces and logistical support. And Zaarin himself was finally killed just as the Battle of Endor was being fought (the final mission debriefing for TIE Fighter mentions waiting for the Emperor to return from Endor).
The Empire got their hands on exactly two. One was kept for study and analysis, while the other was used by the protagonist in TIE Fighter. The only others that were seen after Zaarin's attempt to kidnap the Emperor were used by Zaarin's forces to support his insurrection (which is why the even more munchkiny Missile Boat was introduced).
All plans and production facilities were owned by Zaarin, and would have been destroyed by Thrawn as part of his systematic reduction of Zaarin's forces and logistical support. And Zaarin himself was finally killed just as the Battle of Endor was being fought (the final mission debriefing for TIE Fighter mentions waiting for the Emperor to return from Endor).
Not being a dick here at all, but please keep arguing. It makes me so happy to hear folks argue classic Star Wars fluff. (tears of joy)
Next can someone assert (foolishly) that Matthew Stover isn't the greatest EU writer ever? Because I will voraciously attack you. ...Doubly so if you contend that the title belongs to Troy Denning (the Matt Ward of Star Wars)
The Empire got their hands on exactly two. One was kept for study and analysis, while the other was used by the protagonist in TIE Fighter. The only others that were seen after Zaarin's attempt to kidnap the Emperor were used by Zaarin's forces to support his insurrection (which is why the even more munchkiny Missile Boat was introduced).
Starfighters of Adumar featuring entire squadrons of Defenders proves you incorrect.
There were also a squadron of Defenders stationed on the Executor.
Onyx Squadron at Endor flew Defenders, too.
They were used in the Yuuzhan Vong war.
Reading the Wookiepedia entry makes them seem a lot more prolific than the statement "handful of elite squadrons" would suggest.
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scipio.au wrote: I just hope they do the film-canon stuff before they delve into the EU for more ships and 501 TIE-Variations.
What's left film-wise out of curiosity? As a peripheral Star Wars fan I'm not sure what super awesome ships I've missed zipping around in episodes 4-6.
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The Empire got their hands on exactly two. One was kept for study and analysis, while the other was used by the protagonist in TIE Fighter. The only others that were seen after Zaarin's attempt to kidnap the Emperor were used by Zaarin's forces to support his insurrection (which is why the even more munchkiny Missile Boat was introduced).
Starfighters of Adumar featuring entire squadrons of Defenders proves you incorrect.
There were also a squadron of Defenders stationed on the Executor.
Onyx Squadron at Endor flew Defenders, too.
They were used in the Yuuzhan Vong war.
Reading the Wookiepedia entry makes them seem a lot more prolific than the statement "handful of elite squadrons" would suggest.
I was going to point out that three squadrons show up in Isard's Revenge (the X-Wing book before Starfighters of Adumar), given I'm reading it at the minute, but it looks like someone beat me to the punch...
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Next can someone assert (foolishly) that Matthew Stover isn't the greatest EU writer ever? Because I will voraciously attack you. ...Doubly so if you contend that the title belongs to Troy Denning (the Matt Ward of Star Wars)
I've never even heard of either of them.
It has been and always will be Timothy 'It was so artistically done....' Zahn. Followed by the Stackpole/Alston double team.
Eumerin wrote: The Empire got their hands on exactly two. One was kept for study and analysis, while the other was used by the protagonist in TIE Fighter. The only others that were seen after Zaarin's attempt to kidnap the Emperor were used by Zaarin's forces to support his insurrection (which is why the even more munchkiny Missile Boat was introduced).
All plans and production facilities were owned by Zaarin, and would have been destroyed by Thrawn as part of his systematic reduction of Zaarin's forces and logistical support. And Zaarin himself was finally killed just as the Battle of Endor was being fought (the final mission debriefing for TIE Fighter mentions waiting for the Emperor to return from Endor).
Exactly two huh? Nope. Not even close.
Time for a bit of copypasta magic:
Other Imperial use
Some TIE Defenders were stationed aboard Darth Vader's flagship, the Executor. During the Battle of Mygeeto—as the Executor led Imperial forces in the invasion of the Rebel base on Mygeeto—the Imperial fleet came under attack from several Rebel capital ships, and Admiral Firmus Piett ordered use of TIE Defenders in the defense of the fleet. Flown by elite pilots, TIE Defenders aided in the destruction of the Rebel ships and the Empire went on to capture the Rebel base. At some point, TIE Defenders participated in a Base Delta Zero orbital bombardment operation led by the Assertor-class Star Dreadnought Wrath. Similarly, TIE Defenders also operated around the Naval Station Validusia.
At least one element of TIE Defenders, as part of Onyx Squadron, saw action at the Battle of Endor. However, they were a very small minority of craft at the battle—the majority were TIE Fighters and TIE Interceptors—and were unable to ensure victory for the Empire. As the Empire began to crumble following the Battle of Endor and the death of Emperor Palpatine, the cost of the TIE Defender became an even greater factor and the model was decommissioned. Though information obtained by the New Republic on Spirana in the year following the Battle of Endor indicated that there were over ten thousand production TIE Defenders unaccounted for, the cessation of production prevented it from ever achieving widespread use. Nonetheless, any TIE/D Defenders that were already created prior to being decommissioned were placed into groups such as Elite Force, at least two of which would later be utilized during the First Battle of Coruscant to defend the Imperial Palace.
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Yuuzhan Vong War and later use
Despite the Empire's long held resistance to the TIE Defender, they would continue to be used by the Imperial Remnant until at least the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War, with the starfighters stationed on many Imperial capital ships including Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon's flagship, the Right to Rule.
The Empire got their hands on exactly two. One was kept for study and analysis, while the other was used by the protagonist in TIE Fighter. The only others that were seen after Zaarin's attempt to kidnap the Emperor were used by Zaarin's forces to support his insurrection (which is why the even more munchkiny Missile Boat was introduced).
Starfighters of Adumar featuring entire squadrons of Defenders proves you incorrect.
There were also a squadron of Defenders stationed on the Executor.
Onyx Squadron at Endor flew Defenders, too.
They were used in the Yuuzhan Vong war.
Reading the Wookiepedia entry makes them seem a lot more prolific than the statement "handful of elite squadrons" would suggest.
That's because the EU is made of layers upon layers of nightmarish often-contradictory stuff that ranges from barely-above fanwank-fiction to some rare reasonable bits - mostly with a concurrent theme of making every single background character seen in the entire trilogy (and prequels as well) into a significant character that also had a vital part in the grand scheme of things.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and with Disney buying Lucas' Empire out this week, and announcing the next post-RoTJ trilogy, EU-fans may as well forget about the whole Yuzaan Vong story arc, along with Cade Solo/Skywalker and the OT-grandchildren collection, because it's likely about to have never officially happened.
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scipio.au wrote: That's because the EU is made of layers upon layers of nightmarish often-contradictory stuff that ranges from barely-above fanwank-fiction to some rare reasonable bits - mostly with a concurrent theme of making every single background character seen in the entire trilogy (and prequels as well) into a significant character that also had a vital part in the grand scheme of things.
Not as much as you'd think. Unlike other areas where there are multitudes of additional stories via books, comics and games, there are people at LucasFilm whose only job was to keep it all together. There are canon levels, and they are adhered to.
Yes, there are ret-cons (Adia Gallia dying at the hands of Savage Opress rather than Grievous being the most recent example), but most things like this have ret-cons.
scipio.au wrote: Oh, and with Disney buying Lucas' Empire out this week, and announcing the next post-RoTJ trilogy, EU-fans may as well forget about the whole Yuzaan Vong story arc, along with Cade Solo/Skywalker and the OT-grandchildren collection, because it's likely about to have never officially happened.
You must know more than we know then, because no one has heard anything specific about this. We can speculate, yes, but that's all it is - speculation.
Panic wrote: yeah,
Lets all email disney and ask that GW handles a 28mm Star Wars miniature line...
Say what you want about GW but they got good mileage out of the LOTRs films... I'd love to see that done with Star Wars.
12thRonin wrote: "I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it further." -Micky Mouse
Panic...
Wait, so on top of things being expensive because they're Star Wars, you want things to be expensive because they're GW? That's like when Marvel put Joe Madueira and Jeph Loeb on a book already famous for outrageous delays.
I wouldn't want to play a minis game that was twenty dollars per stormtrooper.
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