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 Dr H wrote:
Good show.

Coating the other side of warped pieces with the same mixture as that that caused the warp can help fix the warp.
This is why, when I do my CD coated in tissue/PVA bases, I wrap the tissue all round the base from the start. = no warping.

Dry-brushing. Always good to go light/gentle at first and take a step back to see how it looks before adding more.
For your case, I'd have given the light DB on the joined pieces and then further work on the individual pieces.

Still, it's easily fixed. Sometimes only a dark (or base colour) wash is enough.


Those are good tips Doc- I'll give them a try at earliest opportunity (I've already transferred the plaster pieces to the plywood, moving ahead with that approach for this piece). I've got a lot of foam board though, and it's cheap, so I know I'll be giving this a try soon.


Wirecat wrote:
Yep. Wash is Your friend in fixing these things. You can even try one of the Angel Giraldez recipies for dummies - add spots of very contrasting color like green-grey and pale yellow-sandy to some of the stones before "unifying everything with a common wash. So before reverting to basecoating again You can try something new and look whether it works for You.

On the other hand, the embankment looks very believable for a clay-and-sand eroded by moat waters.

One more thing - get some fake moss in between these large stone blocks, that should draw attention from any less than perfect paint.


Thanks for the advice, Wirecat- I'll definitely be adding the moss as you suggest, and will try a final wash of some kind after the basecoat is redone and the drybrushing layers are added. I'm thinking that the stonework near or on the waterline can benefit from a very limited and light _greenish_ hue, for starters. I did some searching earlier for Angel Giraldez videos dealing with washes and found a lot fo stuff, but no wash tutes yet (but I didn't have a lot of time).

For tonight, I filled some of the worst gaps with model putty, undercoated the moat area white, added some spackle to smooth the line between the embankment and the 'ground level' and basecoated the turret conical roofs black ([per the painting instructions on Bruce Hirst's web page for the molds):





I've found that the easiest way to work with the spackle is to spread with the end of a plastic utensil, and then dip a finger in water and smooth it on and into the crevices that way.

I'm learning a lot with this project, I just hope I remember any of it when I go to do something like this again!

More follows soonest.

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A couple more WIP photos, showing the drybrushing on the slate roofs of the turrets and the redone basecoating/drybrushing/washing for the walls generally. My camera doesn't do it justice- I think the effect is very good when you can see it with the Mark I Eyeball. Basecoat of el cheapo craft Dark Grey Granite acrylic (thinned slightly to get it to flow well), then drybrush with Granite Grey (which is very close to the old Space Wolf Grey) and then a wash with a very thinned down Didi's Secret Ink - Black. Anyplace that looked too bright, I hit with more wash. Like I said, I like the effect.

Did some basecoating on the embankment and sides of the moat. When you spray Rustoleum onto pink foam insulation it eats away a little bit and forms a lot of crevices. This would be okay if I wanted a very rocky or volcanic setting, but I want to use some grass and tufts and such, so a more dirt-like surface. I smeared spackle over the roughest spots to smooth them out some, but left enough to be painted as rock outcroppings or just rough terrain for some variety.

I'm also working on the coat of arms to hang over the gate (and help hide the gap between the first floor sections a bit). Still want to follow Wirecat's suggestion and add some moss here and there, and I still have the Artist's Medium to try and work some climbing vines in, just for the practice/experience and partly just for fun. Who knows- someone may want to borrow this beast for D&D and a thief needs to follow a specific route up the walls to get inside by climbing the vines!

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Meer_Cat,

Looking good. The drybrushing definitely speeds up painting larger models with good depth.

On the item you raised about faces on this log and in mine. My method is pretty simple, I start with a darker skin tone...so for a human I use Dwarf Flesh. Then a wash of a brown wash (thin it with some water) so that it just fills in all the creases, etc. Once that is dry I go back to a thinned dark skin tone and highlight all the raised areas of the face (brow, checks, nose, chin, etc.). After that is dry I use a lighter skin toned paint, again adding some water to thin it and highlight my highlight (so the edges of the brow, top of checks, face of the nose, etc). Then a little black over the eyes, then pure white inside that in a thin line, then a dot of black for the pupil in the center of the white (make certain it reaches the black above and below so you just have the white on each side) and you are done.

Hope that helps,

CB

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Thanks, Captain!

I'll give your face painting method a try; my alternative is to use only gasmask wearing troops! I'll hit on a method I like one day. What you describe is very similar to the way I do Napoleonic 'true scale' 25mm (back in the day- I'm not sure anyone makes those anymore). I'm quite good working at 54mm scale- at the rate '28mm' are expanding it won't be long before we're all painting 54's anyway!

I remember the outrage in the 'true believer' gaming circles when Games Workshop '25's' came out, really 28's, now those are being pushed aside for 30's, 32's and even 35mm figures. Of course, 15mm and 10mm armies are coming back into vogue for large campaigns also....


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Nice work on the terrain.

   
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Thanks Cam. Trying a couple of new things here. Still trying to get back up to speed for modeling with a number of recent changes. Water seeks its own level- a new equilibrium will emerge, Yoda, blah blah blah....

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Looking pretty nice there Meer_Cat!

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Thanks CK, Wirecat! After the Necromunda piece and now this, when it's finished I'm definitely ready to get back to some nice, normal, 40th millennium infantry! Learning a lot though!

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I find that working in different scales adds a lot to your skillset on 28mm as well. It's like playing a different position in a teamsport, in that it opens up your mind and changes your perspective.

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
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True, CK. The danger here is that, whilst working on a castle, now I'm all wild to paint WHFB, or some equivalent rules set (I've got a ton of figures coming from various kickstarters that would fit right in!). I'm also busy at the moment resisting the siren song of Bushido, so there's that.

I forgot my little camera at the farm this past Sunday, so tried to take WIP pics with my camera and they all came out fuzzy, so no pics tonight. Suffice to say, I'm done mucking about with washes on the walls, have started picking out all the lintel work in a lighter sandstone color to provide some relief from all the grey, have basecoated the embankments and am finished applying washes to them. Nearly ready to mess about with the Realistic Water and tint from Woodland Scenics, which is completely new for me, so a good lesson.

More follows when there is something worth talking about and I have a decent picture taking device to capture it with!

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Just a general update, as I'm still working on the castle gatehouse. Nearly done with the washing and weathering on the building proper though, and will be able to start on the terrain scenicking and especially trying out the water effects soon. Time has been a precious commodity lately, and of course tempus fugit.

I did manage to pick up some more bits from a seller n Etsy called Funboardgames. These are 3D printed heavy weapons, suitable for titans, vehicles or ground mounted teams. We're not talking crew served weapons though- these are definitely vehicle mounted or towed. The prints are very crisp, the detail I think is very good- so good that I ordered a second set after the first arrived (not that I need any of them, you understand, they just looked so good!). Jose shipped them fast and well packaged, I'm entirely happy with them. They were US$4.50 apiece, sold in sets of four (one of each weapon). I haven't asked, but I would be willing to bet that he would consider printing and shipping (free shipping) four of the same, if someone wanted. I'm thinking of magnetizing the heck out of everything and using a Robogear T-rex Walker as the platform to carry most, if not all, of them (not at the same time, naturally. Although.....)

Here's some pics, including a scale shot with a GW Cadian for size (not painted by me, it's an eBay salvage waiting its turn):

Cannon:


Dual Lascannon (the castings are to elevated the barrels, I think a bit of rubber in the sockets would increase the friction so that they will stay where I want them):


Rocket/Missile Battery:


Chainguns:


Components (I think I can magnetize the mount to the base too- so the weapon can be on a defense wall, or moved to a ground mount, a Rhino, etc):


Scale shot:


Thanks for looking in, more follows soonest!

Projects lined up after the gatehouse:

Occulte Predators Fantasy (and hot!) Football Team
Archon Empire of Men forces
Archon Dominion forces
Sisters of Battle Squad
Yada, yada, yada....

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Really nice guns, How noticable are the layer lines. Looking forward to seeing the gatehouse done.

   
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Hey Cam! Here's a better pic to show the layer lines- I had to get as close as I could and at an angle to get them to show properly. They seem so fine (to me, at least, but I'm new to 3D printing) that at any distance over a few inches the plastic looks burnished, rather than uneven:




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There are many ways to remove the 'layer lines' of a 3d print, including gap-filling primer coats (light, multiple) and putting them in a 'bath' of acetone fumes. Search the interwebs for "smoothing 3d prints" and experiment!

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Nice find Meer_Cat, those are good looking guns

   
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Those look pretty good, nice find!

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
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Certainly look okay for the price. And twin rotary cannons are always useful.

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Okay, the exterior of the gatehouse is done as it is going to get. One day, I reckon to come back and do some work on the interior, but for now I'm tired of castles and want to get back into things with more dakka- like my Empire of Men figures (which have finally arrived).

I have a metric crap-tonne of pictures to show, I didn't realize how long it had been since I showed any WIP.

Here's what we started with:



The last update showed through the stage of smoothing out a new moat-bank and adding some spackle to make the seams a little bit better. I messed about with drybrushing to get three distinct colors layered on: dark grey, light grey and white- you'll see those in the pics coming up.

I also decided that the façade was too uniformly dingy and needed some color to contrast, so I painted and then washed all the trim masonry bits around arrow slits, the overhang towerlets, etc to look like maybe a type of sandstone.

I also wanted a vine of some sort growing up the side- what castle doesn't hav a way for the hero to sneak in, or out as the case may be? A little greenstuff for the vine and I clipped some bits off a fake weed I got from the hobby store and we have this:









All the sections still lift apart, and I like how it came out. You can also see the first basecoat of 'moat bottom' colors preparatory to pouring the Woodland Scenics Realistic Water (with 'Murky' Tint). I hadn't used this stuff before, read everything I could find for how-to and tips and had fairly good results but not everything I'd like. I may try something different next time, but by golly there will be a next time, because this was fun!



This next pic shows one difficulty that the articles had mentioned: the fake water leaking out. Naturally, one side, with blue masking tape, was tight as a drum. The other side had blue masking tape, clear packing tape, tape sealed with white glue- no dice. What finally worked was to liberally pile salt up along the edge (afterwards, everything crumbled away easy as you please):



And here's the more or less finished look:



Like I said, more or less what I wanted, but next time I will use different bottom colors and a different tint and much more tint.

Now, I still had major gaps between the sections that form the drawbridge opening. On the one side, I had the cheap brooch from Goodwill:





This is glued to the lefthand section with greenstuff. For the back, I wanted a banner, or flag or something that could be magnetized and removed so that the sections come apart more easily less risk of breaking something. So I took some greenstuff and freehanded the White Rose of the House of York (because I was stationed near York at one point in my service career, sorry Lancastrians!):







The magnets were set into the greenstuff at the beginning step and I glued small washer gears to the wall itself- works like a charm!

Here's some final shots of the whole thing:























These last three hopefully give a better idea of how all the sections fit together to form the four story gatehouse:







So, this update was a long time coming- I'll try not to let things get out of hand so much on the next one (already started on Empire of Men Marksmen Fire Team). Had a lot of fun and learned a lot:

- First time using water effects on a diorama
- Different kinds of greenstuff sculpts, new experience
- First time painting castle stone walls
- First time freehanding a banner (and don't you know _tat's_ going to be happening again!)
- The gatehouse was built literally years ago (I thin early 2015) but it was the first model I built with the idea that it could be taken apart to allow gaming inside

Thank you for looking in, those of you who made it this far. I look forward to your constructive criticism, suggestions and observations.

More follows soonest!

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So great job is definitely worthy to be said here. Love the drawbridge and piers to support it. The murky water looks good too, I’m still messing about with Elmer’s glue cause it’s cheap . The broach idea was great, I was actually at hobby lobby looking at pins/broaches/beads About an hour ago for a similar idea. Nice job on the banner as well.

The best part of this update though is that ivy . Well done. I hate ivy climbing buildings, but that looks very realistic.

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Thanks very much, Theo! Even with the 'sandstone', it was just too much grey, needed breaking up!

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Excellent result bud, give yourself a good pat on the back, really great work. Took a while , but next time will be better. Good lessons learned. All round great project.

Looking forward to seeing what is next.

   
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Thanks Cam! With the change in schedule at work, I just don't have as much time to devote to the hobby. I like how this came out, for the most part- things to try differently next time, as you say. I do want to double back and do some interior work- drybrushing the walls for some color, maybe try painting some carpets and tapestries directly onto the stone, or some more greenstuff work. I really do want this to be the gatehouse of a modular, much larger piece one day too- which means building some wall sections!

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That all looks MOST excellent!

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Thanks briancj! I learned a lot working on this- not least that with changed conditions at work, I need to accept that time management for the modeling is also going to change. I enjoy what I can get in, that's for sure!

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Wow, I really like how the pennant of the flower turned out, very nice!

   
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Greenstuff- is there _anything_ it can't do?

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The castle is fantastic!

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