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Yeah, I think you're right. I was really just messing round with some bits I had lying around while I waited for him to cure Thanks for the advice!

I'll have to make it short, I'm in a hurry:

Still love him!

Bolter looks decent, but where is the ammo coming from? Add a magazine or some kind of feed.

A side feed like most modern day shotguns have it would be cool. I like the idea of loading each shot by hand. Would really seperate it from your every day astartes bolter and it's just the right thing to stop your occasional escaping prisoner.

Another thing that could work is an ammo feed in the stock, like some wild west rifles had it.

To be as nitpicky as demanded, the lower left area on the back of "his" jacket and the back of his right leg look kinda rough. Might work perfectly once painted, but just seeing it as a green I'd recommend some smoothening. Might be just me...

Also I as usual have to agree with PDH: A holster couldn't do any harm and you need to put something credible under his foot, I'd suggest a barrel or keg that has some cards on it. Can you paint a straight flush?

About additional equipment of course you could always add more typical prison guard stuff, a night stick, taser, pepper spray etc. But I think one could easily overdo that so, you might want to ignore that suggestion.

Oh that reminds me of one thing he DEFINITELY needs: Keys! No one would kill a warden and not steal his keys. There are some nice ones in the flagellant box...

Hope my suggestions were productive and I could help.

Good choice for weapon ,and your welcome about the color chart thing , i think it should be frontpage of dakka it looks so handy. as for his stance , what about a box of cigars.?

Baiyuan wrote:I'll have to make it short, I'm in a hurry:

Still love him!

Bolter looks decent, but where is the ammo coming from? Add a magazine or some kind of feed.

A side feed like most modern day shotguns have it would be cool. I like the idea of loading each shot by hand. Would really seperate it from your every day astartes bolter and it's just the right thing to stop your occasional escaping prisoner.

Another thing that could work is an ammo feed in the stock, like some wild west rifles had it.

To be as nitpicky as demanded, the lower left area on the back of "his" jacket and the back of his right leg look kinda rough. Might work perfectly once painted, but just seeing it as a green I'd recommend some smoothening. Might be just me...

Also I as usual have to agree with PDH: A holster couldn't do any harm and you need to put something credible under his foot, I'd suggest a barrel or keg that has some cards on it. Can you paint a straight flush?

About additional equipment of course you could always add more typical prison guard stuff, a night stick, taser, pepper spray etc. But I think one could easily overdo that so, you might want to ignore that suggestion.

Oh that reminds me of one thing he DEFINITELY needs: Keys! No one would kill a warden and not steal his keys. There are some nice ones in the flagellant box...

Hope my suggestions were productive and I could help.

Basically agree with all of this!

I really like that alt bolter as well.

@Baiyuan - Those are some really great suggestions, thank you! I'm a big fan of the idea of the manual loading side feed, and I think it feels 'traditional', which fits the idea of a weapon as a symbol of office too. I've scattered a couple of shell cases on his base, and am working on carving a slot as soon as I'm done posting
The key idea is an ace one too - I had a look at the flaggelant ones, but they seem pretty massive. I might have a go at sculpting a ring with a few keys on the empty space on his arse.
I've had a bash at cleaning up the areas you mentioned, and hopefully they're a little less ratty now. I also like the holster plan (thanks to PDH too!) - I'll have to see if I can find one that doesn't take up his entire thigh.
Thanks so much for all the suggestions - I really like them!

@Neil101 - Thank you! And that would totally fit his look, wouldn't it? I like the image of him carrying a big case around with him, just so he can stand on it and look dramatic!

@Jackanory - It is good advice! Thanks for your kind words

Minor update: A base solution I think I'm happy with! I'm picturing it as the top of a prison wall.



Finally, cause I feel bad for deleting a picture and stranding PDH's comment, I had previously put up a cheesy picture of him standing over someone covered by rubble. It was terrible. Hope you like the new one!

Oh f**k that's so good! Can totally picture him casually picking up his gun, taking aim and popping someone in the head.


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Nice! Love the idea of him standing atop the wall, surveying what he's now taken over.

Yep absolutely perfect basing , he is such an hard arse! he looks like he is just about to spit on the lowlifes.

Your always welcome mate!

I agree with everybody else, the base is cool. And it made me stop wondering where you wanted to put his gun, great idea.

About the holster, I would recommend one from the cadians (only have a HQ box but they should be the same), they are not that big. For a size comparison look at my Radius again, he has that one. If it needs to be even smaller, FW elysian equip, there are tiny ones.
Another idea would be to not give him a holster at all and just shove a pistol into his pants (on his backside I'd say) , gangster style. I mean he is not really a warden, is he, so he might feel more comfortable when he carries his gun like he is used to. That would also solve the holster problem, because you would just need a pistol grip of some kind.
About the keys, prison keys are normally pretty massive I think, they mostly don't use your ordinary door key, so I wouldn't hesitate to give him some really big ones.

PS: Is there a hole in his boot with his toes showing through? If so, I officially announce that my favorite detail of him!

Apologies again for the delay everyone! Work has been a little all-encompassing lately, same old same old.

@jackanory - hahaha, thank you! I can totally see that too - he looks like the kind to take his time...

@monkeytroll - Thanks so much! That was exactly what I was going for, so I'm really happy you think so

@neil101 - Thank you very much! I'm glad you like him!

@Baiyuan - Thanks for the kind words, and the ideas. I'll have to try out the FW holster, though I do like the 'down the back of the pants' idea. I'll see if I can make it work! I've bashed together some keys from GS and plasticard, though I'll have to wait to get some pictures up to see if you approve!

Today's update is some painting. It's not fantastic and it's nothing particularly exciting, but I was dying to get something painted after (hopefully!) coming out of the other side of a busy spell at uni. He was speedily done, but as a tester, I'm pretty happy. Experimented with some oil stains and different kinds of rust.

Fluff isn't sorted completely yet, but at least some section of penal jumpsuit will be a requirement for all gangers (though I'm cheating and saying trousers can count!), and they'll be various shades of deep blue and green. The gang will be made up from various strata of society, and they won't all be vicious murderers or the like. The Warden is not going to be as malicious as he looks, either, though they won't be squeaky clean, of course The plan is for the group to have interacted differently with surrounding groups over time, depending on the current Warden. Each ganger will end up with a mini story, same as with the Jackals (and I know I still owe you some fluff for them too!). More to come as I sort it out. For now though, I can give a name: the Quadring Accord. Hope you like!





As always, all comments are appreciated, good or bad. Thank you for all your support so far!

Just about bed time so I'll be quick.

The gas mask visor looks great...as do the bluey grey fatigues.

Peter

Thanks PDH!

I'm having a lot of trouble with the colour scheme for the Warden. He has a slightly greener jumpsuit colour than the previous ganger, but I'm really struggling to find a jacket colour that works. The way I've sculpted it, it doesn't look like a formal dress jacket, so reds and purples tend to look out of place. I can't get a leather look that fits the 'heirloom' vibe I want it to have though. I'm also thinking that this general scheme might be too gloomy - does anyone know much about colour theory? I'm trying to get a bright, accent colour that won't clash with the rest! I don't think I'm getting this across very well. Ah well, hopefully some progress soon...

I like the visor as well. It's cool to see one with a more natural glass colour instead of red or green or whatever.
With regards to the warden's jacket, I'm not so sure a bright colour would work. Over such a big area bright colours tend to overpower. I think that with blues, browns work well. I'm not sure what real prison wardens wear (thankfully) but it might be worth looking into that...

Thanks Jackanory, I'm really glad you like the visor! I was actually thinking of a brighter colour as an accent, rather than for the whole jacket. I went with a dark blue in the end, so thank you for the tip!

It's been a while since I got anything done - LOTS going on at the mo, it's really hard to get any hobby time. Here's an update on the warden, anyway. I'd love any criticism you might have: I'm working on the base at the mo, and I've still got time to change things that don't work. I'm worried he's just a little boring as is.




As always, thanks in advance for any tips or comments, and hope you like him

FRIK'N AWESOME!

Love the character in the Warden. He screams "The Wild One" to me, Brando for the win. The guy in the gassmask looks fantastic too, btw. Great work!

Yeah, looks good man. This isn't a piece that should be bright in-your-face colours, doesn't make him boring thogh.

That's great! Where are the keys from?

Glad to see news on the warden.
The keys turned out even better than I expected, when suggesting them.
The paintjob is solid.
His clothes look really good.
His eyes are too cartoony. I know painting eyes isn't easy, but I'm sure you can do better. (Some tips: Don't use pure white for eyes, use a very bright skin tone or a very off-white. The eyes should have a rather strong outline, try some diluted black wash. His pupils are quite big, but you could leave it like that.)
Some other suggestions:
I'd give the bandages another layer of wash, they are a bit to clean and bright.
His skin is a bit to tanned for my taste, but that of course could also be dirt. Maybe have more shadows here too, one more layer of wash.
He would look even cooler with some stubble. I'd try to give him some.

Don't get me wrong mate, I love him! I just think it's better to get constructive critique than compliments. And a mixture of both is best.

Nice work , the keys are really good.

I love how the Warden is shaping up. Good work.

Thanks so much for all the comments, guys!

@The Good Green - Thank you so much, I'm glad you approve! I've never actually seen that movie, but having googled it, you're dead on! Right down to the slanty hat and everything

@monkeytroll - Thank you! That's reassuring to hear - I'm used to painting models that are overloaded with detail, so it just felt weird to have so much 'blank space'. I think I'm happy with him now though!

@Jackanory - Thanks! I made the keys myself (at Baiyuan's excellent suggestion), they're tiny slivers plasticard and green stuff

@Baiyuan - Not at all, I don't think I can overemphasise how useful your critiques are! Thanks for the kind words, and I've tried to fix a couple of things too. I've sorted his eyes a bit - they're not perfect now, but I'm a lot happier than I was with the huge ones. I've darkened his stubble and added a bit more wash and dirt to his bandages too, so I hope you like, and thanks so much for the tips.

@neil101 - Thank you! They were fiddly as hell, so I'm glad they look ok

@Scrazza - Cheers! That's really nice to say

I might consider the Warden finished now, though I haven't hit him with a spray yet, so I can still change things up. As always, please let me know what you think!





I might have a fluff update up tonight, or maybe tomorrow. I have the QA pretty sorted in my head now. I also have a LOT of blogs to catch up on - it's been a busy few weeks!

Now, hit me please - BRUTAL CRITICISM WELCOMED - I'm looking to improve here!

Loving the rust effect, but Maybe some more highlighting on the lighter blue? It looks a bit flat to me, excluding the dirty look at the front. On his knee it looks pretty dirty, but the back is too 'clean' for me.

I like him. Maybe some highlights or a wash on his right hand could help. It's hard to distinguish his middle finger from his index.

He has a nice stubble effect on him. I dig that.

Ditto on the highlights and washing. The sculpt is great, and the character palpably radiates contempt towards his charges.

Just need to add a bit more dirt to the left sleeve and back of the pants. Maybe some slight staining around the bullet hole in the back?

Looks great, very nice

Same here: He looks good. Some more highlighting for his jumpsuit would do him good. Eyes are much better now. The base looks cool, weathering is solid. So there was stubble beforehand, I wasn't sure, it's better now. His fingers really need a shadow, looks mutated.
Overall: Awesome job Scarp.
If you're seriously looking for further suggestions on the painting and if you're willing to accept that I'm making some blind assumptions here, I might have some. Send me a PM if you're interested in my rambling.

Right, thank you so much for the tips and the kind words, guys. I've tried to fix what you mentioned - a few more highlights on the suit, more dirt on the back, a wash for his hand, and a bit of a weathering around the hole in the jacket. Hope it's an improvement, even if it's not much of a change




@Baiyuan - I would love any serious tips you might have! And don't worry, I appreciate that you have no idea what I do or don't do already, so don't worry about telling me stuff I might already know (let's face it - I probably don't ) Thanks a lot for the offer!

Fluff update tomorrow (hopefully )

Just some feedback , i think he looks great I just don't like the cigar hand. It looks like it needs a thicker dark line between the two fingers. Just cuz you asked otherwise love it!

Thd dirtier pants look better, especially suited for a equivalent of a necromunda setting. Nice improvements.

He looks good.

I really like the red/brown you've used on the blue.

As you know I'm firmly in the camp of anti smoker but he would look wrong without a cigar. I'm not sure how but I think the cigar needs to stand out more...I nearly missed it.

Was it intentional or is it just a happy coincidence that he looks a bit like Clint Eastwood?

Oh and I'm really rather fond of his weapon....lovely boltgun, you really should christen it. Though I believe Godwyn-Diaz Pattern has already been taken .

Peter