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Savnock wrote:I notice that there are no biomorphs in the Hormagaunt package anymore. Guess that means no (even slight) variations in strength, etc. anymore, unless they've done something very stupid with bits.

One rumor is the biomorph sprue will now be a direct order item.

Kwosge wrote:The Trygon/Mawloc base is decorative. It's on an oval base like the Valk and not a round base like everything else in 40k. It says that on the GW website. Have fun making Prone Trygons that get cover saves from 5 point Gaunts.

Anybody tries that at my FLGS, they'll suffer such a horrible fate that they'll still be screaming well into their next incarnation.

By the way, if the Pyrovore comes as 1-3 per slot, I may just crap myself with joy.

I love the new minis, but my god. Fifteen quid for 12 gaunts?

Neith wrote:
Raveners are really nice, but I REALLY don't like Hive Guard/Venomthrope/Pyrovore models.

@Fateweaver: Yes, FW Trygon is around £76.

You don't like the Pyrovore model???? Dude the biovore looks like a mutant billy joel with a schlong on his back and nuts on his chest! The pyrovore is a huge step up, so much more refined and in line with the tyranid design lol. Overall better proportions and legibility in the sculpt...

That's like saying Megan Fox isn't hot.... she may not be your style, but you have to admit, its still hot!

skipmcne wrote:I thought so at first as well; but look closely at the base, you see the the END of the tail, not the bit that would join with a lower-torso.. Additionally if it was decorative, why not show it off with the 3-up unit picture?

I think you need to look again!

^^^
I think he was looking at the Ravener sprue and showed up right after the Trygon sprue and got confused. But yea, Raveners get some sort of burrow marker that I'm just going to call a 4th Ravener. He can't shoot a gun but he has ST and Rending.

warpcrafter wrote:

Anybody tries that at my FLGS, they'll suffer such a horrible fate that they'll still be screaming well into their next incarnation.

I call your bluff. Where is said store?

It's always a good thing to have FW models make their way over to plastic GW kits, but I'm a little disappointed that the Trygon is in the codex. I was hoping for Apoc. only just because I fear how it might change the mechanics of 40k. I guess only time will tell how things will pan out.

The pyrovore isn't really any better than the old biovore I think. It still looks... veiny AND it still has balls on its chest.

other than that, the model range is mostly made of win.

oni wrote:It's always a good thing to have FW models make their way over to plastic GW kits, but I'm a little disappointed that the Trygon is in the codex. I was hoping for Apoc. only just because I fear how it might change the mechanics of 40k. I guess only time will tell how things will pan out.

Change the mechanics how exactly? It's just a deep striking Monstrous Creature, even the current edition 'Nids have access to those. Not to mention Daemons.

cmon dude, fair enough on the balls, but at least the head doesnt look like a wedge of melted cheddar anymore right? and the arms are much more refined and in-line as well, plus it looks to be in a bit better shape than that tubby biovore lol

Ketara wrote:I love the new minis, but my god. Fifteen quid for 12 gaunts?

Last time they were about 21 quid for 16 gaunts, in an 8 Termi/8 Hormi split, and people complained about having useless models. Or, 1.3 quid/gaunt.

Now they are 15 quid for 12 gaunts. The 12 gaunts you want, no matter what. AND they are 1.25 quid/gaunt.

THEY ARE NOW CHEAPER!

The Pyrovore is about the only model in the bunch I can't grow onto. The pose and overall model don't really some to go together that well too me. Plus it's one of those models that's just screaming to be turned into the subject of horrible, horrible fiction that horrible people like to write.

Notice that the full model range listing now shows what categories the models fall into in the Codex, new and old alike. Also notice that the Red Terror and Old One Eye are still listed.

I'm not sure the Pyrovore concept holds together as well as it might. It looks like a creature that's been grafted together rather than one that's evolved that way.

The sculpting quality is very good, mind you.

GW is going to sell a whole pile of those wing sprues to non-nid converters, they'll be great for any model requiring bat/reptile style wings.

I like the pyrovore (except that it's metal) - I just wish the other gunbeasts looked something like that. I'm now trying to work out how to convert one from a warrior and a pile of greenstuff (I may be dreaming) and also how to convert a carnifex to have a pose something like that.

Clang wrote:GW is going to sell a whole pile of those wing sprues to non-nid converters, they'll be great for any model requiring bat/reptile style wings.

Too bad GW doesn't sell separate sprues much anymore.

They'll just have to settle with selling us the entire set just so we can get the wings.

Looks like no major surprises here. The venomthrope is still awkward, the trygon is solid. I'm all right with the pyrovore looking heinously disturbing, aliens should look weird and creepy sometimes. Kinda makes me want to start a new army, really.

Of Daemons.

GW is going to sell a whole pile of those wing sprues to non-nid converters, they'll be great for any model requiring bat/reptile style wings.

This occurred to me as well. Great for Daemon Prince, Chaos Lord and other Chaos conversions, Raptors, etc. Cool for Vampire Counts too.

Blue Orphen wrote:

Ketara wrote:I love the new minis, but my god. Fifteen quid for 12 gaunts?

Last time they were about 21 quid for 16 gaunts, in an 8 Termi/8 Hormi split, and people complained about having useless models. Or, 1.3 quid/gaunt.

Now they are 15 quid for 12 gaunts. The 12 gaunts you want, no matter what. AND they are 1.25 quid/gaunt.

THEY ARE NOW CHEAPER!

Likely because GW pulled the biomorph sprue. So yes its cheaper if you don't want any biomorphs.

So the Pyrovore sucked up all the cool concept art for the biovore. Can't wait to see what the guys at warpshadow do with all that new stuff. Oh and what Navarro does . Gargoyl wings will be indeed the top seller for conversions of all kinds. Well at least two boxes I'll buy.

Venomthrope - Weird. Still not sold.
Trygon - Awsome.
Mawloc - It's a different head. No sold.
Raveners - Ok I guess.
Gargoyles - Getting 3 boxes at least.
Pyrovore - Awesome.
Hive Guard - Double awesome.

So my 'Nid army will be expanding.

This:



Became this:




GW actually improved the kit and it costs half the price. GW has done something right!

Mahu wrote:GW has done something right!

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to explain why this is impossible and you are wrong.

BTW, the Hive Guard's impaler guns are apparently 2 shots at S8. Not bad...I might be spamming those boys.

@ Mahu, I'll give you that the head and body look better, but the FW tail is infinitely better than the GW version(and looks like it wouldn't break off the first time it attempted to use the tail).

One thing no one has mentioned is that in the description of the Pyrovore is that it is on a 60mm base!
It looks like its going to be much bigger than the biovore.

The FW talons actually look like they might reach the ground, too.

I like the FW model's lack of eyes. But feth that, plastic is superior to FW's resin when it comes to durability and casting quality.

BrookM wrote:I like the FW model's lack of eyes.

The FW version has eyes. They're tiny, but they're there.

gorgon wrote:BTW, the Hive Guard's impaler guns are apparently 2 shots at S8. Not bad...I might be spamming those boys.

I'm interested to hear about the indirect firing and how that works since, "Hive guard can target enemies with unerring accuracy - even those who they cannot see" per the GW store description.