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WOW! I was not digging the way things were going but this is just... a hive queen wet dream... really these spawns are orgasmic!

So much to explore, so many cool kits and sprues... this is what BUGS are all about! Im so freaking in love with these that I'm speechless

Buglands bio vats are boiling!

BramGaunt on Warseer (whose rumors seem to have been dead on) said they don't need LOS. But some confirmation would be nice, for sure.

I dunno...out of everything, HG have sparked my interest the most. And I think VT -- although potentially flawed -- may have some interesting uses.

The hive guard has the soul edge, and that trygon is like a dream come true.

Can anyone explain to me why the trygon and mawloc wear cricket boxes?

NAVARRO wrote:WOW! I was not digging the way things were going but this is just... a hive queen wet dream... really these spawns are orgasmic!

So much to explore, so many cool kits and sprues... this is what BUGS are all about! Im so freaking in love with these that I'm speechless

Buglands bio vats are boiling!

And you out there say we Furs are odd

You furries are odd...LOL

lord_blackfang wrote:

skipmcne wrote:I thought so at first as well; but look closely at the base, you see the the END of the tail, not the bit that would join with a lower-torso.. Additionally if it was decorative, why not show it off with the 3-up unit picture?

I think you need to look again!

Agree, pyrovore is HOT. no pun intended.

Downside of the new Tyranid codex...

Warriors as Troops. Feth me sideways, my Guard need more heavy weapons.

Upside?
Now I've got a reason to build and paint my Emperor's Fist Tank Company.

OMG that Pyrovore is awesome! only thirty quid for a trygon! just awesome.

Sweet release. Gotta love the pyrovore.
Actually, you gotta love em all!

Are Warriors unlimited Troops, or only one, or what? Seems like a rather odd change if you can have an entire army of em.

For figs... I just don't like the Hive Guard. The concept is cool, but I don't like how they altered the current Tyrant Guard fig, which I do like, to it's new role.

Anyone notice they changed the Rending Claws for the Raveners? Look more like the Genestealer claws now instead of big hands.

Aduro wrote:Anyone notice they changed the Rending Claws for the Raveners? Look more like the Genestealer claws now instead of big hands.

Changed?

Kanluwen wrote:

Tyranid Horde wrote:I'm unbelievably angry they have made the broodlord and warriors troops and I'm after buying one of each as HQ choices...

Broodlords are upgrades to Genestealer units(who are troops).

So don't you worry, you can get more

I spent all my pocket money I saved so no more nids for me for a couple of months...Unless I get a Hive Tyrant for Christmas.

kirsanth wrote:

Aduro wrote:Anyone notice they changed the Rending Claws for the Raveners? Look more like the Genestealer claws now instead of big hands.

Changed?

I should mention I, nor anyone at my FLGS, got the metal Raveners. I'm just looking at plastic and thinking of the only other plastic Rending Claws I know, the ones for Warriors. If the metal ones have the same claws as these, I guess it was an older change from hands to claws.

Aduro wrote:Are Warriors unlimited Troops, or only one, or what? Seems like a rather odd change if you can have an entire army of em.

"How can we sell more warrior kits?"

Not too odd to me.

Aduro wrote:

kirsanth wrote:

Aduro wrote:Anyone notice they changed the Rending Claws for the Raveners? Look more like the Genestealer claws now instead of big hands.

Changed?

I should mention I, nor anyone at my FLGS, got the metal Raveners. I'm just looking at plastic and thinking of the only other plastic Rending Claws I know, the ones for Warriors. If the metal ones have the same claws as these, I guess it was an older change from hands to claws.

The metal Ravener's arm joins are too small to fit the warrior's RCs, but did fit the plastic Genestealer RCs perfectly(which are incidentally, the same style as the new Ravener plastic RCs).

Sidstyler wrote:

Aduro wrote:Are Warriors unlimited Troops, or only one, or what? Seems like a rather odd change if you can have an entire army of em.

"How can we sell more warrior kits?"

Not too odd to me.

Actually, what I think it might give us is a unit with some actual utility that can and will be in position to hold objectives. Just my Theoryhammer so far.

Ok, they seem to want the army more Swarm friendly, and I just can't see them making Warriors an unlimited option for Troops. I'm wagering one brood as Troops per a specific HQ option (Alpha Tyrant/Warriors?) or one brood as Troops per two broods of Gaunts/Hormagaunts.

Aduro wrote:Ok, they seem to want the army more Swarm friendly, and I just can't see them making Warriors an unlimited option for Troops. I'm wagering one brood as Troops per a specific HQ option (Alpha Tyrant/Warriors?) or one brood as Troops per two broods of Gaunts/Hormagaunts.

If they do the latter, I will be so annoyed that they STILL haven't done that for Marines/Scouts.

I personaly thing they got rid of the 0-1, 0-2 option.
What was the last Codex it came in?

Anpu42 wrote:I personaly thing they got rid of the 0-1, 0-2 option.
What was the last Codex it came in?

Imperial Guard has 0-2 Enginseers, 0-5 Priests and a Platoon has their own 0-X makeups.

True i forgot and i play IG, what i was talking about mostly was HQ's, you can now take 2 Company Comand Squads. i know there are others, but i would have to pull out my old codex and look for examples.

My guess is that it won't be that complicated. Warriors = Troops.

The assumption is that GW wants to nerf Nidzilla and boost swarms. And I think we're seeing that isn't their intent. Their design approach now is about allowing a variety of builds.

I have a gut feeling an altered form of Nidzilla will shake out to be quite powerful...maybe even the power build again.

Warriors = Seargents ?

skipmcne wrote:Warriors = Seargents ?

It's not clear if it *really* means anything, but the Incoming article shows a Tyranid army that is supposedly being prepped for the new codex. One pic is of 12 Warriors that it calls a single brood. It also has a mix of ST/RC, ST/DS and twin DS, with one venom cannon.

This all would seem to indicate the brood size has increased, that mixing and matching of weapons (and thus wound allocation games) are still allowed, and that Warriors still get one "heavy" per brood.

Aduro wrote:Are Warriors unlimited Troops, or only one, or what? Seems like a rather odd change if you can have an entire army of em.

For figs... I just don't like the Hive Guard. The concept is cool, but I don't like how they altered the current Tyrant Guard fig, which I do like, to it's new role.

Anyone notice they changed the Rending Claws for the Raveners? Look more like the Genestealer claws now instead of big hands.

Which is kinda funny as just a few months ago, I modeled my 4rth Ed ravenors with Genestealer arms that I purchased off of an Ebay Bitz store.

Wyoming: Ill get some pics up in a bit
All my ravs have stealer claws.
Simply because they look alot better.

So, my initial thoughts before this: Sweet! new model will do well, the gars are more than welcome, and the trygon was just a shock at the time.
Wasnt keen on the tyrant guards though, and the venomthingy looked like gak.
The pyrovore was just a hope it wouldnt look like the bio

My thoughts now: Im actually fething shocked!
GW have taken steps and done something well for a change.

Guards: Like these, but i may do some cutting and GS'ing to make them more upright. Dont like the leaning look.

Gargs: I think ill start with 20, and possibly go for even more.
I see these being the 2nd most popular sale (after the trygon) due to chaos players wanting wings
Nightlords raptors anyone? Possessed?

Ravs: Not impressed that much by them.
The heads and back section look worse than the previous (too much like warriors now) but the convertion options are nice now.
They are cheaper, but i may stick with my metal ones. (PM me if selling in bulk please )

Pyrovore: This is the biggest shock to me, GW have made a gunbeast that actually looks like it should do.
They are £20, but they are also on a 60mm base, so they are fex size i would think.
I'll be getting 1 for sure, if they are a 1-3 brood then ill take 3.
If they have no 0-1 unit restriction then ill be taking 6

Trygon: Well, where to start.
They look better than FW's prone-to-miscast thingy.
They are under half the price.
They are plastic so offer up alot more convertions.
I love it, i think ill have to buy one simply for the hell of it.

Maw: It looks like a spikey slug, its gak, and i think i may melt the parts for it when i get the trygon kit.


Unit composition:

Warriors now troops? Im guessing this is to push the nidzilla lists to the max.
Offering a multi-wound creature to them.

I love it overall, however, i am more than willing to bet that the fex now takes back seat as a heavy only option.
I highly doubt they will be available to elites anymore.


So yea, i may start my advanced order now

Platuan4th wrote:

Aduro wrote:

kirsanth wrote:

Aduro wrote:Anyone notice they changed the Rending Claws for the Raveners? Look more like the Genestealer claws now instead of big hands.

Changed?

I should mention I, nor anyone at my FLGS, got the metal Raveners. I'm just looking at plastic and thinking of the only other plastic Rending Claws I know, the ones for Warriors. If the metal ones have the same claws as these, I guess it was an older change from hands to claws.

The metal Ravener's arm joins are too small to fit the warrior's RCs, but did fit the plastic Genestealer RCs perfectly(which are incidentally, the same style as the new Ravener plastic RCs).

They did not come with rending claws.
I used the ones from Lictors.

Venomthrope looks silly. Kinda like the Doc on futurama.
Trygon and Mawloc are pretty cool. I like the head on the Mawloc

Raveners are nice. It would have been really cool if they had given the option for the Maw mouths from the original metals.
Gargoyles are plastic versions of the metals from what I can tell. good for gameplay. But there aren't any options on the sprues.

Pyrovore should have just been the new Biovore model. So instead of improving a model, GW just adds an entry. Go Profit!
Hive Guard is neat. Does give that Zoat feel.

Termagants at least have the option sprue.
Hormagaunts are overpriced without the extra sprue.

I notice a bare minimum of spare parts on the sprues. Especially disappointing from the Raveners.
I was hoping the price was because the sprues were packed. But, no, they are Terminator/Goldsword priced.

Where is the Tyranids' 47 heads? Look at all the optional bits they cram onto a Space Marine, and even Ork Boyz sprues.
To me that used to be the selling point of the plastics, all the cool bits.
Like the dog and stump with axe that came on the Bretonnian Men-at-arms.

Overall I like the models. But I can see the missed potential of bits.

Oh no. Must resist pausing Space Wolves and Raven Guard for Gribblies.