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2011/06/22 18:02:34
Subject: New Wyrd Miniatures/Malifaux releases (including Terraclips terrain)
H.B.M.C. wrote:Wait, wait... hold up. You don't get clips in the box?
This was my thought too, I already ordered my Sewer set some time ago from thewarstore, and I did not buy a pack of clips. Ugh, just ugh. I swear it said it came with a pack of connectors... I admit, I'm irked about this.
I should point out that this decision does not appear to have been made by Wyrd, but rather by the terrain makers, World Works Games. For those interested in how this was addressed, the thread on their forums that Kroot linked earlier pretty much became consumed with the issue of not having clips in the sets.
For people that pre-ordered, you might want to make an account over there to pipe up.
Personally, I find the idea pretty foolish, especially given that the original solicitations apparently claimed that the packages would contain clips.
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I was on the fence regarding the product with my only concern being whether or not the clips themselves will scratch the cardboard when I disassemble. However, the lack of included clips is a terrible oversight; this alone will hurt reviews, sales, and overall opinion of the product.
The product is advertised as $49, but the actual cost is $67. When I buy a model from another game system, I already have tons of glue, paint, and other materials at home. However, this product requires a special clip in order to function as advertised. Therefore, nobody is going to have extra clips just lying around the apartment.
I really advise Wyrd and Worldworks to sell this product for the $67 it is. It'll alleviate the problems associated with customer ignorance when they forget to buy clips with their first purchase. It'll cause retailers problems because their distributors never told them about this issue. It'll cause customers problems when they order online. It'll simply cause problems.
I love Wyrd and everything they do, but this product is in for a rough start.
NAVARRO wrote:Oh and paper for decorating bases got to be the most crappy base system on the planet...
Those are counters. Similar to Infinity, Malifaux utilizes 25mm-base-sized counters to signify corpses, scrap piles, treasures, dynamite, walls of fire, and various other events that happen in the game. It's a blessing that these counters are flat and not textured because gameplay allows you to walk your models on top of these counters.
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NAVARRO wrote:Oh and paper for decorating bases got to be the most crappy base system on the planet...
Those are counters. Similar to Infinity, Malifaux utilizes 25mm-base-sized counters to signify corpses, scrap piles, treasures, dynamite, walls of fire, and various other events that happen in the game. It's a blessing that these counters are flat and not textured because gameplay allows you to walk your models on top of these counters.
Yes I agree great for counters but they said:
World Works Games wrote:
What are those counters I see ?
looks like corpse scrap some kind of a neverborn faction counter.
Are you making these as well?
I would buy a malifaux counter set the second it went up.
You caught our little secret bonus. We've included Malifaux tokens in every set which match the underlying terrain textures. There's even blank token punch outs that you can use for basing your miniatures so that they match the terrain.
The neat thing about them is that they are general enough to be used in other games as well.
Serious question is to just tell them to pack it and just get yourself some of the print and paste stuff that is out there on line FOR FREE.
60-70 bones for cut outs? Are you kidding me?
That set doesn't make enough excuses for sloppy execution.
The figures are amazing, the game a side order of awesome sauce, why does it take some jackasery to pee on your shoes over some cutouts?
Those sets arn't even that good, I can do better with styro and some balsawood.
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
Grot 6 wrote:Serious question is to just tell them to pack it and just get yourself some of the print and paste stuff that is out there on line FOR FREE.
1.) I am not aware of really good free prints out there. Some are free, but they are mediocre at best.
2.) The designer World at Works sells pdf's for years for reasonable prices.
3.) If you get the cardboard into your printer, it is not nearly sturdy enough, simple as that. You need to buy balsa, glue, print paper, print colour and need hours of cutting and assembly.
These boxes are a major improvement for RPG and skirmish games, for people who want a atmospheric plug and play terrain.
Guess one reason for this packaging was that clips are already an existing product, you need less clips than terrain, and that including clips to a stack of cardboard sheets is kind of awkward packagewise.
Grot 6 wrote:Those sets arn't even that good, I can do better with styro and some balsawood.
... and a graphic designer education and three months free time.
Grot 6 wrote:Serious question is to just tell them to pack it and just get yourself some of the print and paste stuff that is out there on line FOR FREE.
1.) I am not aware of really good free prints out there. Some are free, but they are mediocre at best.
2.) The designer World at Works sells pdf's for years for reasonable prices.
3.) If you get the cardboard into your printer, it is not nearly sturdy enough, simple as that. You need to buy balsa, glue, print paper, print colour and need hours of cutting and assembly.
These boxes are a major improvement for RPG and skirmish games, for people who want a atmospheric plug and play terrain.
Guess one reason for this packaging was that clips are already an existing product, you need less clips than terrain, and that including clips to a stack of cardboard sheets is kind of awkward packagewise.
Grot 6 wrote:Those sets arn't even that good, I can do better with styro and some balsawood.
... and a graphic designer education and three months free time.
The design was 3 years or so of jacking around and chasing tail.
Free time? hardly. I can do it on my computer, or if you want tactile 3d stuff, as in Virdune bits, polystyrine, and plaster, thats going to cost you.
My sets can go for 3-400 bucks, tops.
Seriously though? If you want to DIY, you can do it big. 10 bucks tops for the materials, a couple of hours for the build.
The stuff is out there for you to print off the texture, the cardstock or heavy cardboard paneling, and you can cut and paste them for perminent or in sections for trading around and building in your own fashion.
Not going to take you much more then standard 3d scenery tools, elmers glue, and cardstock.
Those sets are ok, if you want to pay 60 bucks or so for them, but if your on a slim dime, my way is better. Those of us in the know know how its done.
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
More information including release dates and prices. All of these releases will be available at the Wyrd booth and online at Wyrd's store during Gen Con (Aug 4-7).
Gen Con 2011 Convention Exclusives Not sold anywhere after the convention has concluded.
Nightmare Edition Teddy - $50.00 (Gen Con limited release only)
Nightmare Edition Dead Justice Box Set - $50.00 (Gen Con limited release only)
(includes Lady Justice / Dead Doxy, Judge / Samurai Punk Zombie, Death Marshal / Guild Autopsy, Death Marshal / The Drowned, Death Marshal / Crooked Man)
Miss Demeanor, Female Convict Gunslinger - special edition miniature - 1 free with $100 or greater purchase
Malifaux Twisting Fates Book - $35.00 (Sep)
Includes Avatar rules and Avatar stats for all Malifaux Masters plus new Minions for all factions
7 New Malifaux Avatars
Justice, Avatar of Balance - $35.00 (Nov)
Kirai, Avatar of Vengeance - TBD (Feb 2012)
Zoraida, Avatar of Fate - $35.00 (Jan 2012)
Sonnia, Avatar of Conflagration - $40.00 (Sep)
Seamus, Avatar of Dread - $35.00 (Oct)
Marcus, Avatar of Instinct - $30.00 (Feb 2012)
Pandora, Avatar of Insanity (includes Candy) - $40.00 (Nov)
I will now follow Wyrd Miniature releases more closely as I will start playing this game, beginning with the Ophelia Gremlin gang and the Japanese Ghosts.
Now, if they would just get a Malifaux RPG in the works.
Man. I'd ditch AD&D for that!
Eric
Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective. Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of. Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be? I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11
I think they all look awesome! In fact, my only gripe is...where are the Bayou Gremlins? How could they leave my faction out?
"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness.
ADB
2011/07/20 22:40:25
Subject: New Wyrd Miniatures/Malifaux releases (including Terraclips terrain)
Rather strange that they're releasing an Avatar of Kirai, a recent character. Either way, I guess Lilith and Rasputina are in the 'second wave' of Avatars. I hope these alternative models come with alternative rules; Hamelin already has two forms.
MagickalMemories wrote:Now, if they would just get a Malifaux RPG in the works.
Man. I'd ditch AD&D for that!
Eric
I am still learnng, but the game looks like a small RPG if you take the background material and scenarios seriously.
And maybe Deadlands is not that far off.
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Zatsuku wrote:I think Wyrd's art style has really taken a hit with the new book and it translates into the models.
Besides Sonnia I don't really like any of it, it looks very amateur.
Their covers, title pages, and the black and white doll sketches have always been borderline amateur looking. I'm not really seeing a change there, but then I think most of these models are quite good.
Thanks Kroot, I've been waiting for these! Beware Ophelia, MUHUHAHAHAHA!!!
"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness.
MagickalMemories wrote:Now, if they would just get a Malifaux RPG in the works.
Man. I'd ditch AD&D for that!
Eric
I am still learnng, but the game looks like a small RPG if you take the background material and scenarios seriously.
And maybe Deadlands is not that far off.
I asked about it on the forums once, and even emailed someone (N. Caroaland, IIRC) and received responses along the lines of "We can't really discuss any products that may or may not be coming out, but keep you eyes on the forum."
I can't get to Wyrd from work, and my home internet time tends to be spotty, outside of certain obligations. So, I don't get on their forums as much as I'd like. When I do get there, though, I can't find any discussion of an RPG. Not even people asking for one.
Presuming they have one, I'd like to be in the beta for it, like I was with the release of the 2nd book.
Eric
Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective. Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of. Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be? I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11
Can't find a link to the company that is promising since January to do some bamboo bases for Wyrd. Anyone has it? Or an alternative japanese style base?
Wyrd Miniatures have been posting a veritable tidal wave of concept art, greens and painted examples of Malifaux miniatures:
Molly, Alt. Lady Justice green, Carver, Alt. Colette, Alt. Pandora painted, Alt. Ramos painted, 29, Collete Avatar, Kira Avatar:
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
This, maybe referring to the number of arms (also a number in the twenties ):
Seriously, though, I love all these minis. I've been wanting to play Malifaux pretty much ever since I heard of it... this just makes me want to throw all of my money at Wyrd, and then rob banks and throw their money at Wyrd.
2011/07/31 20:09:38
Subject: New Wyrd Miniatures/Malifaux releases (including Terraclips terrain)
Finally. I've been waiting for Kaeris since the second book came out.
I question that "29" as well. I don't recall anything by that name. The closest resemblance I could find is a new Desolation Engine.
It's likely something new from the third book.
