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Once upon a time the Tau were grimdark...

BEHOLD!



There once was a mind/pheremone control organ!!!

I know it's really hard for people to understand but "foot" is a generic term for the things animals stand on.

Hooves come in all kinds of shapes and sizes! Did you know that Elephants, Rhinos, Deer and thousands of other animals have hooves that don't look like horse hooves! Amazing!

Kroothawk wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:I would also want to see Farsight to kill all Ethereals, declare himself an Emperor of Tau and start a crusade against the Imeprium.
That woudl be great to see.

Fralethepalewhale wrote:That would actually be a REALLY good story. As a part of the new codex, Farsight Declares war on all of the Ethereal's and he creates some tension among the Castes and then the Ethereal's are no longer completely trusted. OHHHHHHHH MAN

No Tau thread complete without posts like these
Enjoy your genocide fantasies ... in private

Take a chill pill there KrootHawk, its just the group polarization kicking in, there is absolutely no chance of that happening. And I like the Tau the way they are right now. Haha okay?

I like to think that the Tau are somewhere in the middle. The ethereals do have the pheromones, but they only sway you in their direction, not total obedience. They do accept others into the Tau Empire, but I think they're a bit more heavy handed on other species than they let on.

2 cents deposited, returning to depressing life. Have a nice day.

DeffDred wrote:There once was a mind/pheremone control organ!!!

And it only appeared in one licensed product, namely the Xenology book, and recently got ridiculed in FFG's take on the setting.

DeffDred wrote:I know it's really hard for people to understand but "foot" is a generic term for the things animals stand on.

This has nothing to do with terms. You can look at GW's miniatures whose legs look nothing like that on the picture.

To reiterate: There is no "one true canon" for 40k. One source can say something, another can contradict it. And both are equally right. This is as per the people who actually write the damn stuff.
Or in short: Xenology offers one interpretation for the Tau. It's not the only one. Like it? Pick it. Just be aware that it isn't any more "true" than any other opinion of the people in this thread.

This has nothing to do with terms. You can look at GW's miniatures whose legs look nothing like that on the picture.

The minatures are wearing clothes. There is nothing to say the Tau arent wearing boots.

Infact, does it say they have hooves in the codex? I haven't looked in that codex in a long time.

To me Tau are the newbs of 40k. Thus are unworthy of my marine-loving attention.

DeffDred wrote:

This has nothing to do with terms. You can look at GW's miniatures whose legs look nothing like that on the picture.

The minatures are wearing clothes. There is nothing to say the Tau arent wearing boots.

Infact, does it say they have hooves in the codex? I haven't looked in that codex in a long time.

To me Tau are the newbs of 40k. Thus are unworthy of my marine-loving attention.

Maybe they don't want your "marine-loving attention" anway. Haha just kidding bud, no worries

DeffDred wrote:

This has nothing to do with terms. You can look at GW's miniatures whose legs look nothing like that on the picture.

The minatures are wearing clothes. There is nothing to say the Tau arent wearing boots.

Infact, does it say they have hooves in the codex? I haven't looked in that codex in a long time.

To me Tau are the newbs of 40k. Thus are unworthy of my marine-loving attention.

no boots there..

most of the other ethereals do have boots or some form of robes covering their feet, but those are hooves in that pic

Funny thing is...


the newer Ethereal sculpts dont have a forehead gem, or at least a pronounced one at anyrate.

The thing about the Grater Good. It can be used for almost anything. Eat your peas for the grater good. I must shoot you in the face now, but it is for the grater good. How evil or good all comes down to how the aun interprets the GG in that case.

Kroothawk wrote:I wouldn't trust you anyway

BTW no Xeno joins Tau society, at best he joins the tau Empire. That is an important differenciation.

Now I'm no Tau expert, but didn't they try to make friends with the Necrons before they were shot in the face with gauss fire?

nurgl wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:I wouldn't trust you anyway

BTW no Xeno joins Tau society, at best he joins the tau Empire. That is an important differenciation.

Now I'm no Tau expert, but didn't they try to make friends with the Necrons before they were shot in the face with gauss fire?

I'm pretty sure the Tau just offered them a type of welcoming, and then the Necrons shot them in the face.

nurgl wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:I wouldn't trust you anyway

BTW no Xeno joins Tau society, at best he joins the tau Empire. That is an important differenciation.

Now I'm no Tau expert, but didn't they try to make friends with the Necrons before they were shot in the face with gauss fire?

Some Necrons helped the Tau fend off a Tyranid invasion, only to be harvested by their one time saviors.

nurgl wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:I wouldn't trust you anyway

BTW no Xeno joins Tau society, at best he joins the tau Empire. That is an important differenciation.

Now I'm no Tau expert, but didn't they try to make friends with the Necrons before they were shot in the face with gauss fire?

That they did. The only ones they won't welcome into the Greater Good are Orks and Tyranids. When I played Dark Crusade as CSM, they even offered me (as Eliphas the Inheritor) a chance to join the Greater Good. Imagine that, offering a Dark Apostle a chance to become an atheist. Not gonna happen.

They're so naive it's funny.

Tadashi wrote:They're so naive it's funny.

Perhaps not so naive, but they do have a supreme confidence in their own dogma and abilities. They see someone help them ally against one of their sworn enemies they have given up on converting to the Greater Good, they are more apt to be receptive to that force.

DeffDred wrote:The minatures are wearing clothes. There is nothing to say the Tau arent wearing boots.
Infact, does it say they have hooves in the codex? I haven't looked in that codex in a long time.
To me Tau are the newbs of 40k. Thus are unworthy of my marine-loving attention.

We appreciate that you have never read the Tau Codex and never looked at a Tau miniature, but still let us participate in your expert opinion on Tau

WarOne wrote:

Tadashi wrote:They're so naive it's funny.

Perhaps not so naive, but they do have a supreme confidence in their own dogma and abilities. They see someone help them ally against one of their sworn enemies they have given up on converting to the Greater Good, they are more apt to be receptive to that force.

"I have seen the result of blind trust...trust must be proved."
- Captain Iacton Qruze, The Last Remembrancer

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:

the newer Ethereal sculpts dont have a forehead gem, or at least a pronounced one at anyrate.

If you don't see it, that means it's working.

I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

I like the phermone / something control idea, I mean, I've based my entire tau raiders fandex off it.

Tadashi wrote:

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

There is merit in being crazy, really, the Tau are limited by there stiff social structure as well as the fact when the "Greater Good" is looked at under a microscope by non-Tau it falls apart entirely.

They will need to stand up and say they are out for conquest, no shame in it considering how the rest of the Galaxy acts.

Alexzandvar wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

There is merit in being crazy, really, the Tau are limited by there stiff social structure as well as the fact when the "Greater Good" is looked at under a microscope by non-Tau it falls apart entirely.

They will need to stand up and say they are out for conquest, no shame in it considering how the rest of the Galaxy acts.

Anything else is heresy.

Tadashi wrote:

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

By waking up I hope you mean incredibly paranoid of anything other they aren't familiar with.

Tadashi, broken pic link dude.

Fralethepalewhale wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

By waking up I hope you mean incredibly paranoid of anything other they aren't familiar with.

The question is: can they maintain their faith in the Greater Good despite all the darkness of the galaxy?

nurgl wrote:Tadashi, broken pic link dude.

Strange. Works fine here.

Tadashi wrote:

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

That would completely ruin them, but it might happen.

Tadashi wrote:Strange. Works fine here.

It just may be my end, but all I'm getting is the little white box with the red x
can i has link?

Tadashi wrote:

Fralethepalewhale wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

By waking up I hope you mean incredibly paranoid of anything other they aren't familiar with.

The question is: can they maintain their faith in the Greater Good despite all the darkness of the galaxy?

nurgl wrote:Tadashi, broken pic link dude.

Strange. Works fine here.

I think they have done a great job so far. Only one schism that has been brought to the attention of the whole empire, and he was Farsight, a giant power hungry general who probably only wanted fame and power in the first place.
And he is right, the link is broken.

Alexzandvar wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

nomotog wrote:I don't know if we want to take advice from a race that sees ignorance as a a good thing.

The tau are naive to a fault though. It's like there hat. They are the only sane man in a world full of crazy and that makes them the crazy one.

They'll wake up soon enough. Farsight has, and sooner or later, the other Tau will too, just like how Mankind 'woke up' after the Horus Heresy.

There is merit in being crazy, really, the Tau are limited by there stiff social structure as well as the fact when the "Greater Good" is looked at under a microscope by non-Tau it falls apart entirely.

They will need to stand up and say they are out for conquest, no shame in it considering how the rest of the Galaxy acts.

On the contrary, the idea of the Greater Good is actualy quite logical. By ( preferably peacefuly ) incorporating other lifeforms as equals ( *coughs* of course the Tau stay first among equals, somene has to lead after all ) into the Empire they not only profit from that lifeform's unique abilityies and knowledge but also spare themself the bloodshed that comes with actualy trying to apply force. What some would call naivety is merely a somewhat more open minded approach to even strange looking and acting cultures.
It served them well with the Kroot, the Nicassar, the Vespid and possibly many others. It didn't work so well with the Necrons ( hehe, it's not as if the Imperium of Man would have a better record in that regard. Oh look Magos XY! A strange ruin, let's plunder it for exotic technologies... ) and the Dark Eldar but that doesn't mean that the open minded approach, especialy by a species which needs all the allies it can get, by itself is wrong.

As I said many times in Afghanistan, "Don't mistake Kindness for weakness."

Tau always try what they belive is the easiest approach first, diplomacy, sometimes it works sometimes it does not, its easier to make peace before making war, the opposite is not alays as easy.

They definetly use a carrot or stick approach, but hey thats what makes them a different force in the 40k universe, everyone else already has the full monty genocide bent, its nice to have alternate approach.

And nowhere do the Tau dispute the fact that they intend on extending their rule/influance its just that they use more means than military. Cultural, political, material are all angles they can and do use.

So the Naive desciber used by some is in itself naive, they will not make the same mistake again with the same race, they just treat each race as its own distinct encounter and do not let other races color their approach, sure they will fail from time to time, but the sucesses more than make up for it.

nurgl wrote:

Tadashi wrote:Strange. Works fine here.

It just may be my end, but all I'm getting is the little white box with the red x
can i has link?

http://1d4chan.org/images/8/83/HeresyStamp.png