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Oh well thats a relief! Everyone should know if you post something on the internet, someone is bound to save it for later

Yeah looks like they took the page down, think there was a problem with the video that went along with it, I couldnt watch it, but the sketches look promising.

The video wasn't a video. It was audio only.

The Zzor buggy things were discussed Backstage yesterday

Have a feeling that it may have been intended for Backstage and was posted frontstage in error.
or maybe not given what you guys now say.

Since I've gotten no message from either party--here we go without the spoilers.

Interesting sketches, I like concept A the best. Although if these are supposedly different unit types then perhaps A is normal infantry, B and C are elite troopers

I really hope they start showing actual models soon. Methinks too much hype is being built by concept art

I like concept C with the alternate helmet from A and the bottom rifle from sketch B.

Would be quite nice and 'futuristic' in my opinion.

I like the idea of alternate heads/visor down/full faced helmets. Makes them more sci-fi and distinguished from imperial guard.

Imperial guard do have full face helmets (the tri helm in particular)

Its just GW doesnt seem inclined to include them as plastic options

Nice concept sketches.

FYI there is a video there now, so go watch it if you are so inclined

Interesting stuff, I like that these seem to have more of a 'sci-fi' direction than 40k. And with the name of the models ('corporation'), and the look actually, makes me think of some 'Alien' Wayland-Yutani-esque future corporation, with privately owned soldiers fighting on backwater planets, obtaining resources for their employer's profit (or something like that anyway!)

These look like they would make much better IG (particularly as storm troopers)

These will sell VERY well for IG and INQ armies.

If they come out as nice as the concept art, yeah they would.

I'm really glad they appear to be going away from replacement GW models. While it's obvious that they could be used in 40k Mantic don't seem to be letting that run the game. I was expecting the Corp to be like SMs so having them high tech human is a nice suprise.

Ah but so far we've only seen some concept sketches, the corp could easily have power suits too

But I highly doubt they would be space knights

4M2A wrote:I'm really glad they appear to be going away from replacement GW models. While it's obvious that they could be used in 40k Mantic don't seem to be letting that run the game. I was expecting the Corp to be like SMs so having them high tech human is a nice suprise.

I don't see this at all!

I see "counts as" Orks and IG.

The Forgefathers are 'counts as' Squats! Now to be used as IG, I suppose.

So far, everything we have seen looks very much like it can be used as a 'counts as' 40K equivalent.

Alpharius wrote:

4M2A wrote:I'm really glad they appear to be going away from replacement GW models. While it's obvious that they could be used in 40k Mantic don't seem to be letting that run the game. I was expecting the Corp to be like SMs so having them high tech human is a nice suprise.

I don't see this at all!

I see "counts as" Orks and IG.

The Forgefathers are 'counts as' Squats! Now to be used as IG, I suppose.

So far, everything we have seen looks very much like it can be used as a 'counts as' 40K equivalent.

I think it can be stated fairly obviously that Mantic are trying to steer a line straight down the middle between making the models enough like GW aesthetic so they will be bought for 'count-as' and forging their own Sci-Fi path. Personally, I think they are doing a pretty good job. You won't please all of the people, all of the time - for every person complaining that they are too like GW stuff, there will be someone complaining that they don't fit the expected 'look' or are too OTT. Its a difficult path to tread. Lets not be naive here; Mantic know full well that they will make a hell of a lot of sales from disgruntled GW customers who want cheap proxies for 40K - its the philosophy that Mantic's Fantasy range is based on. But just as much I think they deserve some plaudits for trying to strike out a bit on their own. From small acorns and baby steps etc.

I agree 100% - there is no doubt that this is Mantic's Ultimate Strategy!

I didn't mean to suggest they aren't aiming for people who want cheap GW alternatives but that they are at least trying to make a game that isn't a direct copy.

There are a lot of alt GW models and many of them are much closer to GW models than mantic's are. While they are doing models that could all be used in 40k they are making them different enough that they can be a range in their own right.

Alpharius wrote:

4M2A wrote:I'm really glad they appear to be going away from replacement GW models. While it's obvious that they could be used in 40k Mantic don't seem to be letting that run the game. I was expecting the Corp to be like SMs so having them high tech human is a nice suprise.

I don't see this at all!

I see "counts as" Orks and IG.

The Forgefathers are 'counts as' Squats! Now to be used as IG, I suppose.

So far, everything we have seen looks very much like it can be used as a 'counts as' 40K equivalent.

Agreed and to be honest I think this is a smart business decision. Make your money off of the disgruntled GW players, while slowly moving those players into your gaming system. Is it risky? Yes, but with the lukewarm reception that finecast is having along with the $$ being made from the "Kings of War" line you can't help but root for Mantic.

And really, it isn't even all that 'risky' either!

I driopped 50 squid on a mantic army box and I'm absolutely chuffed!

I'm excited for Warpath but man I want to see some models already. I hope the Corportation have slightly more hi tech and modern looking vehicles than the IG tubbytanks. Then I might be tempted into a "normal human" sci fi force.

If they make plastic figures that look anything like the concept sketches for trooper A or B, they will sell like hotcakes. I can't wait to see how Mantic's humans look.

Hopefully we'll get some good heavy weapon teams

I love the visor on the B sketch. Beyond that, they're pretty standard 'soldier in body armour' sketches. They'll be nice enough if the minis are sculpted competently, but the sketches alone aren't going to get me excited.

Would take something pretty exceptional to reinvent body armour for sci fi troops.
It is invariably a variation on current design.

Problem is that the design is based on current materials and so form follows function to a certain extent.

Would be good to see something groundbreaking and imaginative. But then there is a bigger risk of a negative reaction.

Right, I'm off to reinvent the wheel.

I like how the second weapon on Corp Trooper A is a slightly rejiggered Nerf Stampede...

How does their fantasy stuff match up scale-wise to GW/PP 28mm? They don't have any "human" models yet right?
Are they going to fit in well or be closer to 25 mm, like Bolt Actions recent WW2 plastics?

I have a couple of their elf scouts that they were giving away a while back which are obviously intentionally very slight, so I don't think I can draw any conclusions from those.

plastictrees wrote:How does their fantasy stuff match up scale-wise to GW/PP 28mm? They don't have any "human" models yet right?
Are they going to fit in well or be closer to 25 mm, like Bolt Actions recent WW2 plastics?.

Bolt action is 28mm though, its just 28mm true scaled

It all really depends on the race though, their elves are thinner than GWs but their dwarves are much chunkier