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**Ogryn**

Just wanted to say how amazing some of the models here are. Great job on the Inq Sorcerer, migsula

**Baiyuan**

Mine would be ok with aliens up to a certain point, but she has little tolerance for psykers, I think that comes with being a former sister of silence. So Lord Silas would be target of some sceptic frowning and any cooperation with Navigator Thirlwell would most likely end in a focused rifleshot of plasma to the cranium. And if the gak hits the fan (and that's pretty much what it would look like) Hope would be released tear through him. No need to mention Lilith, even though demons are not exactly her speciality, she could present a welcome challenge.

We could put them all on two sides of a conflict though, that would be more believable.

**Scarper**

Wow, photoshop is harder to use than it looks! I have absolutely no idea how to resize this, and I've been trying for a while, so this'll have to do

I've also got the individual images, in case that doesn't come out properly:

Spoiler:

Photographing her proved surprisingly difficult! I know my painting / modelling isn't a patch on any of the others, but she was really fun to make, and I really enjoyed being part of this project

hope you like her! Here's the fluff for her again, which hopefully makes a little more sense now:

Spoiler:

The sound of gunfire and Curen’s scream woke her with a start. Frantic, she scrabbled for her relic blade, finding no sign of it. She grabbed a rifle beside her, swinging left and right before she’d even taken in where she was. Her blood pumped fire, anger and fear a haze on her vision. She had to protect them! Curen was dead. She knew that. But as she struggled into wakefulness, she could not remember how that information related to her. Curen had been dead a long time. Baby was with her, too. She - she could not correlate that with where she was. Animal gave her a quizzical look, head cocked to the side. He chirruped, startled – she had kicked him as she jumped to her feet. He moved between her legs, seeking forgiveness for whatever his wrong had been. Her eye colours told her nothing, arm magics whirred to no threat. The walls of the watchtower came back to her, her mind slowly returning to the world where she resided. A dream. Nothing more. She felt sadness. She had lost them again.

The memories came at night. Confused, detached, garbled. She had been given a task, once. Important, secret. They had spent many evenings hiding. Curen had been with her, as well as another female, one she recognised as close, but for whom she could draw no name. There had been more, in the before, other friends and faces, but they had been whittled down, one by one. In the old time, Curen and the other had been all that was left. They had been fighting, a fight that they could not afford to lose, and Curen spoke often of death for a cause. What they were doing was important, but she could not remember why.
Her smile, though, the smile of the other, unknown female, snagged at the edge of her memory. It bore some special meaning, one exclusively for her. She had understood, but that slid away from her, even as she fought it – As every morning, her comprehension retreated, meaning receding and the strings that held the images together twisting and breaking, one by one. A truth once known was once again out of her reach. It was infuriating, and brought with it an aching and incomprehensible feeling of emptiness. A feeling of loss. All of her dreams ended in fire.

She scratched Animal’s ear, murmured platitudes. She was sorry that she had kicked him. She remembered now. Guard for the others, her new friends; remain awake and watchful for the bad men. She had failed. Slept. Baby cried now, woken by her night screams. She was sorry for this too, but she must fix her first failing before her second. She scanned the borderlands, eye colours searching deep into the forbidden territory, where her own eye could not see. Farl had explained to her how important her task was, and she mustn’t fail her friends. Not again.

And here's a little section of a seperate story which will hoepfully shed some light on how she ended up this way:

Spoiler:

Before the haze, you could see Easthollow for days. A crooked spear jutting into the sky, mottled orange and brown, like rotten wood. There was no getting lost, it was just there – on a clear day, you could almost make it out on the horizon from Rookpoint. Which is why, despite being a few days travel away, the men and women working for McCaughey saw Easthollow fall.

RiffRaff’s never really told anyone what happened next. Doesn’t like to talk about it, you understand. You ever see someone that’s been burned with rusinate runoff? Nah, I suppose you wouldn’t have. No one goes near the dumping sites anymore – most of ‘em are wired off and signposted by now. But this stuff, the stuff they used to ship off world? It’s – I can’t really properly get across the horror this gak provokes in anyone who survived Easthollow. It’s corrosive, it burns you, right? But that ain’t always what kills you. Sometimes it’s slower, more painful, inevitable. Get contaminated, and it burns you fierce on the contact site, sometimes through to the bone. Some people died then and there – I don’t know if it was the burn, don’t know if their blood carries the poison around their bodies, burns ‘em up from the inside. Just a splash, though, step in something out scavenging, stray too close to a restricted site, that won’t kill you by itself. I’ve got no idea how it works (Farrell’s your man for that, if he’s in a talking mood), but those who die outright are maybe the lucky ones. The survivors - they got the burns, sure, but there’s something else in there too, something that stays in your body once the burning’s stopped. Over a couple of weeks, they just started to swell up. Cancers, tumours, I don’t know. Some kind of growth that just starts out and don’t stop. Didn’t hit them evenly either: might just affect one arm, might be your face; could be your liver, might be in the brain. Some people went crazy – turned violent and aggressive, beat someone to death just for staring. Farrell says it must have been compression – in the skull, you know? Others just went vacant, staring into space or just walking into gunfire. A lot of people killed themselves. Barely looked human anymore, guess they didn’t feel it either.

You’ll still see them around, sometimes. You probably have, just wouldn’t recognise them. People don’t take too kindly to those who got burned. After the hive fell, a lot of people saw the crazy ones, saw what they’d do if they got close to you – There are still people around who’ll shoot a hollow on sight. I’ve only met one or two, but they keep wrapped up, no skin on show. I don’t think there’s many left now. It’s - just no way for a man to live.

Ah, Throne, you’re right. Sorry, where was I? Poor bastards always throw me off. Right! Easthollow. And the aftermath, I guess. Rumour is, it rained runoff in parts of Shantytown. Literally poured from the sky. Think of the worst acid shower you’ve seen out on the wastes, kind of thing that strips paint from your truck, and imagine it doing the same to people. Reduction compounds got thrown up into the air too – you know the stuff that gives you blight throat? This is where all of it came from. ALL of it. Hard to imagine, isn’t it? There were rebreathers and gas masks around, of course, industrial protection for workers and the like, but nothing like as many as we’ve got today. More people back then, too, so less to go around. McCaughey’s train had masks – reconditioning gear like that was what they did, but the general public had nothing to protect themselves. Riff would have seen it all – the burned, the people whose lungs were slowly dissolving, the hollow crazies, hell, starvation and regular disease will have taken thousands. At first, they sold to the crowds, but Kew eventually talked McCaughey into giving out the spare masks they had left for free to any who would take them. It was already too late, really. All I know for sure is that once it was clear that there were more refugees than there were resources, people got desperate. Once the shooting started, McCaughey made the wise decision to get the hell back to Rookpoint

Now to read through / comment on all the amazing entries here!

**neil101**

Hey scarper , that is great man ! I love her expression in the second big pic down. Again you capture the humanity of the mini . also the colours are quiate fitting , and quite bright . like the way you blended down the skirt at the bottom.

And what can i say about your fluff that hasnt allready being said. One of the best writers on dakka. Love the descriptions of life at Rookpoint and the new Easthollow . You bring compassion and a voice for the underdog.

**The Good Green**

She looks amazing. That base really puts me into her world. She is very sympathetic too.

**PDH**

Migs - Thank you. It really does mean a lot since it is your fault...sorry I meant to say.... you inspired me to join dakka in the first place.

Baiyuan - Looking forward to seeing her...I forgot that it was my job to tell you to get painting....when she is finished I want to see Cortaro get a coat of paint

If I haven't already said it good luck with the new business too.

HF Izanagi - The gakky rope didn't get a mention because I didn't see it. I was too busy looking at the white/bone blade that I really like.

JRN - Cheers

. I'm really looking forward to seeing the street fight barricades and other warband members. Thank you for the recipe, expect to see it used relatively soon on the next sorcerer I've started on converting.

Scarper - Man I love her....the story she tells is different from the rest of us. Not a battle hardened fighter but a victim. The colours of her clothes are great. The blue dress is my favourite part of the paint job, the highlight blue is

, along with the weathering

. Her bionic arm looks even better now it is painted. The pink fringe is a nice touch. The baby is so well done, good sculpting there mate. Ok one last gush the base...the colours... you've nailed it.
Tell me about "photo shop" I used two programs: one for the photo editing (irfanview it is really straight forward to use for sizing and photo montage) and one for the PMW stamp (gimp).

Peter

**Baiyuan**

Much better now with the proper pics, Scarper! And don't worry about the resizing, while it is pretty simple I wouldn't like it anyway. I think 800x800 is way too small, can't zoom, can't see gak.
I praised your conversion a lot already, so I'm focussing on the paintjob now. We talked about painting technique a couple of times and I'm not sure I had anything to do with the outcome of this, but it looks like you improved your technique a lot. My absolute highlights are the growth on her forehead and the dirty (and well highlighted) blue of her skirt, blending into the rust of the great base.
The only weakpoints I can see are the yellow parts and the babies skin. These areas look a little like the "old scarper", while the rest is from a different league now. The yellow has a suitably dirty look, but the use of the ink is a little bit too obvious. Same for the babies head, I would have gone for a brighter cleaner color, as I imagine she would do her best to keep the baby clean.
Only petty nitpicking! You achieved a unique and suitable color scheme I couldn't have come up with and apparently improved your technique a lot. I'm looking forward to see more of your sensitive and special creations. Must be the hippocratic oath or something...

@Jakob: Well that's not exactly a simple recipe, but the effort shows!

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@Peter: Yeah, it's all your fault! You should have been up my neck, forcing me to paint, like the Beslin Stone of painting enforcement you actually are! About Cortaro, I hope my plans to visit next years GDUK will persist, in which case I'll bring Cortaro as one of my entries. And thanks for wishing me good luck, it's a really big step for me, almost 13 years of preparation and now it's all happening in an instance.

**Scarper**

Thanks so much for all the C&C guys, I really appreciate it! I'll respond to that first, then comments on other people's stuff are underneath

@PDH - Wow, so many kind words - thank you! I always seem to get drawn to the kind of 'ancillary' characters in the background - I actually got the idea from some art in one of the necromunda rulebooks

The colour scheme was a little outside my comfort zone, but I wanted to do something different from my usual for the competition, so lots of teal and orange. I'm really glad you liked the weathering - I've been trying out a few new techniques! I really love pretty much everything you produce, so that really means a lot. Thank you.
Re: The lecturer stuff - Ugh, tell me about it. It wouldn't be such a problem if they would acknowledge that they had made an error, rather than trying to blame us for not doing work that we weren't informed existed...

Still, all done now, so no point in me bitching

@neil - Thank you so much! Once again, you know exactly how to butter me up, even if I don't really agree - I'm literally blushing here, thank you again

If you're interested, the Easthollow story is actually in full in my blog - it's the first part of a longer backstory for Coop and Riff! Baby took a lot of resculpts to get the face to something that I was satisfied with, and I'm still not entirely happy. I'm really glad you like her though - once I got an idea of her character fleshed out in my head, it was just something I couldn't really leave out.

@migs - Wow, really? Thank you! There are some really amazing ideas here that I feel were translated leagues better than I can manage, so I take that as a massive compliment! Hope you still like her after the new pics...

@JRN - Thanks

@Remi - Hahaha, thanks a ton! I worked really hard with the rust, trying out different techniques on the different ages of metal. It was really fun actually - I always find weathering is the most interesting part of painting a model. Did you like using the powders on your own model in the end? The arm is actually mostly tomb king parts, believe it or not - I took a couple of the skeletal spear arms and chopped them into component parts, then trimmed bits down and glued them together again with some grey stuff to see what worked. The rest is just copper wire

Cheers for the kind words!

@The Good Green - Thanks so much! I'm really glad you like her

@Baiyuan - Really gutted to hear that real life has stolen all your time! Still, yours was a really ambitious project, and I know how many dozens of hours you put into one of your models, so I can't really complain

Can't wait to see it though!
You've got a real gift for motivating people, did you know? You managed to not only pick out every area that I put special effort into and comment upon them, but you also spotted the areas that I ran out of time on, and wasn't really happy with myself. Your advice before really helped me out a lot, and I honestly really appreciate you taking the time. I'm really pleased that you think I'm improving! Thanks so much for the kind comments (especially your one about 'scarperness' a few weeks ago - made me happy for ages!), and I'll try and keep improving! I know you'll be there with the carrot and stick if my standards slip

Ok, so roughly from the start of page 23

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@Cadaver - Really nice work! Looks totally unsettling, the skull mask (or just... her skull?) is fantastic. You spoke earlier of her body acting as a mere frame for her augmentations, and I think you've really pulled that off. Recognisably and distinctly human, but with no humanity. And I'm trying really hard to see where you could possibly need that green stuff

Can't wait to see her painted!

@Jackanory - That's gutting! Make sure you post up when you do get finished please

I was really looking forward to seeing where you went with yours - it was a really promising start!

@Vitruvian XVII -

The effect of suspension is just incredible, even in your mock ups she looks submerged. Amazing work on picturing that! I was hugely impressed by the base, then how you set her up inside the tube, but the walker itself is just jaw dropping. It's a real shame that you haven't had the time to get finished up, I can't wait to see the finished product! Really excited about the bionics you're going to set her up with - looks like there's not much of the original left! The model must be absolutely massive though... are you planning on playing any games with it? Or is it purely a display piece?

@PDH - Awesome! Really like the weathering effects on his shoulderpads, and the pistol lenses and jewel in the centre of his chestplate is beautiful. I think the face painted up really well, and it's an excellent sculpting job - human features with a touch of the supernatural. Any chance you'd be willing to divulge a few hints on how you did your fleshtones? I'd love to be able to pull off pale skin like that

I think he looks fantastic as an occult insider: sinister in a way that you can't quite place, but still within the realms of 'normal' imperial society. Overall: Ace!

@JRN - Just wow. Quintesentially 40k - like a blanchian nightmare made flesh. The right arm in particular is a tour de force - I have absolutely no idea how you managed to produce that from green stuff, and the weathered off-white was an inspired choice. Incredible. (I also really liked the file name - "wizpimpjrn" describes it better than words ever could

)

@Neil - Stop selling yourself short! The robes are absolutely awe inspiring, both in form and depth of colour. The head dress seems a little strange to me but fits the theme, and the pose absolutely screams deamonic power. The grey skin tone accentuates the 'wrongness' of it - and did you blend that claw? It looks great! I really like her, but I can see how if something doesn't fit your original vision, no amount of praise from others will change that. Hope you're still happy with her - she's a real work of art, and I'm not just saying that.

@Migs - You've heard this to death already, but I really like the red, even if all the depth isn't showing through. The spilling chalice is an inspirational touch - is that going to be a repeating image among his acolytes? The weathered armour is subtle and effective; perfectly understated. Love it!

@Remi - Wow, man, the reveal on those wings was totally worth the wait - they look fantastic, and you've got the shape dead on. The cloudiness is a great touch of realism - What technique did you use on those in the end? The feathering and the weathering on his carapace / armour look great, and his pose is brilliant - it's really inspiring to see what you've done with the original model: it's barely recognisable anymore! What was the problem that you mentioned with the water effect? It looks really effective as is

I think your repaints paid dividends: the final scheme is insectoid, harmonious and realistic. Kudos!

And a final note - I feel like this blog is a perfect example of how fantastic the Dakka community really is. Fantastic models, artistic vision and inspiration, tips and advice from some of the biggest names on the forum. It's been great to be a part of it, and thank you so much to everyone involved!

**HF Izanagi**

@Scarper-LOL... holy crapola! That was a great response! Having tried similar myself, I know the effort that goes into that.

Kudos!

As to your questions/comments, thanks! The painting of it was rough, as I had quite a few false starts that I airbrushed over. Twice. But I'm glad you like the final result. The wings were made out of something like this-

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I took the clear side and Pigma Micro-pen to mark out a design, cut out a bit larger than the final product. Then Baiyuan suggested using incense (stick-form) embers to mould the wings. Worked like a charm. Just for kicks, I tried a lighter after the contest on a spare set of wings I made... worked for a bit, but one slip turned the right wing into something resembling a butterfly's curled proboscis.

I painted the mini up completely first, then used greenstuff to anchor the wings into his back cavity, then sealing it with more GS before painting it up to match his appendage bonding.

Now... will I be going this insane with every, single miniature? Probably not, or you'll all be getting blog updates once every three months...

But definitely got a good practice session for greenstuff... and I know my PH 1K sons will be on the recieving end of that benefit, plus any single-minis I paint up for WHQ, my Eldar force, or my =I= Munda rebirth... besides... this insect-merc

needs a home.

-Remi

**JRN**

My wizpimp out there serving the Holy Emperor of Mankind:

Mini-lineup from the cabinet + some photoshop.

**neil101**

She sits well with rest of your holy joes

**Baiyuan**

Damn Jakob, it's great that Peter and me starting this contest has resulted in you adding a new miniature to a line containing one of my absolute alltime favorite miniatures, the preacher with the gatling arm. I adore him!

**JRN**

Cheers Baiyuan. You know, it is also one of the model I keep returning to myself. I think it has a lot of the things that I rate highly in the hobby - passion, bold conversions, classic colours. And purity seals en masse.

**neil101**

Hey up folks , i had some free time today , and thought i would use it by making a commemorative poster of this event and all who sailed with her. hope you like

@baiyuan , good luck with your business mate, i had to laugh at the thought that pdh still didn't manage to get you to paint even after the blinding success of this event.

i am sure you will do them both justice when time is on your side though

**Gitsplitta**

Finish or not... you've all done yeoman's work and should be really proud of yourselves.

Fantastic work all! Thank you!

**migsula**

I did some more work on the model, glazed the text (it looks so crude as it's built from the red and all the range disappears in the photo, but this crudeness made me want to make it better :/ ) and darkened the hammer to a dark crimson shade with darker metal, to make the Palette more restrained and the green to pop even more.

... Really worth the extra 15min.

Now when I get a new camera you'll see how he really ended up like

**Vitruvian XVII**

Aaah! To many posts to reply to! Here goes...

@JRN: As i said previously, just beautiful. It fits so well into the 40k universe and the painting and converting is just seamless. Very nice Photoshop as well, always envious of people who can set up "action shots" like that.

@neil: I really like the red robes. The whole model just reminds me of a bride thats been daemonically possessed and is about to rip the entire congregation to shreds!

@Migs: Despite the poor red capture, i think hes a triumph. He exudes evil in a totally subtle way, from the slightly clawed fingers to the menacing red eye glow. Reminds me of an Inquisitor who's just started on the path of the Radical. Love the glow on the weapon, and the subdued freehand on the cloak is great too. Cant wait to see the Twist beasty as well

@Remi: Bloody hell, its amazing! I completely missed the wings, but i think they work perfectly. I think im definitely in agreement with Baiyuan that you have shown the greatest improvement in the competition. Its a shame the water effects didnt quite work out, but the base looks suitably gooey anyway!

@Scarper: Ive said it before and i'll say it again. I love the way you tackled this project. Its such an evocative mini, it really oozes helplessness and despair, coupled with the hope of new life. Really like the grubby robes, and the combination of blue and yellow is great. The base is a great contrast as well, and a great idea. Thanks btw, Its very big, much bigger than i initially intended! It almost reaches the bottom of a flying Stormraven/Valkyrie! I plan to use it as an Archmagos Veneratus, an AdMech MC HQ from the Tempus Fugitives book.

@neil: Thats an amazing poster, i had a chuckle at some of the quotes you completely took out of context,. Thanks, that was a great idea

@Baiyuan: It seems me and you are in a similar boat mate!

I hope you manage to finish it soon!

All that remains for me to say is that im very sorry i couldnt get the time to finish it by the deadline, however, reading all the nice comments from you lot (thanks btw!) has given me back the motivation i had lost at the end of saturday.

I will endeavour to finish it asap, and will set myself (another...) deadline of the 2nd of october to finish it by, which is when i go to uni!

Thankyou to PDH and Baiyuan for thinking of the idea in the first place. Imo it has been a resounding success, even the slightly unsavoury drama at the beginning spawned another 15 or so great conversions on Panic's thread, which just goes to prove how good the idea, and indeed the Dakka community is. Thanks also to everyone who participated in and followed this thread. The camaraderie and friendship displayed by all just epitomises Dakka and it has been a great pleasure to be part of such an experience.

Thanks... *wipes tear from eye*

**Baiyuan**

Cool poster! I think we will all think back to this event every now and then. And I'm positively surprised how emotional everybody (me included) gets about our little contest and I agree the camaraderie is what made this special. The good thing is, we can totally keep that up and have some more of it. I would be the first to start the next one right away, but then there are dozens and dozens of hours of work on this one left for me.

Progress:
Hardly made any. Yesterday I was thinking "come on, just let me go home so I can paint" all day until when I got home at 8:30pm I was too exhausted to paint. Today I didn't have any time yet, but I'm gonna turn off my computer now and paint for one or two hours before going to bed. I think I'll take care of her face tonight, a relatively small area and when I'm done with it I can put her head aside and continue with the other areas, also I hate painting faces, so I rather get it done.

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Update:
EYES, I hate painting EYES! The only thing I hate more than painting eyes is painting tiny, slightly missshaped eyes like in this case. Anyway Samarianne has green eyes now and they even turned out almost symmetrical, so I'm calling it a day. Makeup and eyebrows tomorrow. Hhhm face tattoo or not...

**Starfarer**

Hey everyone - I'm totally blown away by the work displayed by everyone here, which makes me all the more disappointed I didn't get mine finished in time. Between work and buying my first house, my hobby time has been non-existent the past few weeks. I'm fully intending to get the model done this weekend, if I can manage to avoid any last minute issues trying to close on this house.

While my free time may be scarce these days, the offerings presented by everyone here has fueled my passion for both the =I=munda and Necromunda community that has developed, and I would love to have another round, once us slackers get our entries finished.

Perhaps it's a bit early to discuss, but I like the idea of using solely the recent Brian Nelson plastic character models, but not limited to the wizards. Admittedly, this serves my interest in getting that amazing Nurgle Lord(possibly two) and getting back to my =I=munda warbands, which have not received attention for many months.

**Baiyuan**

My idea for a follow up event would be this:
We take a months rest of the wizards, so everybody has enough time to take care of other projects (or finish the current ones like in Vit's, Cadaver's and my case) and we can refuel our pimp juice and then by mid octobre we just start a new one with similar rules.
Only fresh WFB plastic releases and they must be turned 40k. If you want, your second project can be related to the first, but it's not compulsory.
We could even open the competition to everybody who managed to finish an entry for the first event, so Panic and the other guys can join in the fun this time and we don't have to keep an eye on two threads.

**JRN**

Following Migs' example I have started another model - mostly sticky-tack assembling so far but I'll get there...

Just the change of head, the different base, and the =I= symbol has big impact on the original figure.

**DarkStarSabre**

Baiyuan wrote:We could even open the competition to everybody who managed to finish an entry for the first event, so Panic and the other guys can join in the fun this time and we don't have to keep an eye on two threads.

Pots and kettles! Pots and kettles!

You'd still be keeping an eye on two threads as those of us who RL caught out (which includes some of yourselves!) wouldn't likely let this pass!

**endtransmission**

I like the idea of follow up competitions as watching all the entries in both threads come together has been very inspiring; more so than working on my guard has been.

Rather that saying any new fantasy models, I do think there needs to be a limited selection to choose from as the knowledge that lots of people were using the same base model was a great driver for creativity.

**speedfreek**

JRN wrote:My wizpimp out there serving the Holy Emperor of Mankind:

Mini-lineup from the cabinet + some photoshop.

I knew I recognised that style of painting from somewhere!
Never thought to chech the signature though....

Great piece of work you have there.

**HF Izanagi**

@Neil - Awesome poster, man! I'll be saving that!

Someday... someday I'll learn how to use all the different fonts, er, find them for my use. I like it!

@JRN - LOL... eldar gatling cannon = epic win!

The two figures look great together, as does your newest creation!

@Baiyuan- Refuelling the "pimp" juice sounds good. School just started for me again and finishes... next year

, but might as well try- if you guys'll have me here again!

I feel you on the eyes... whenever I get them "right", I consider it a miracle... I feel your pain!

@Cadaver - No worries, man. I'm still here looking forward to your/Baiyuan's finished creations!

@Migs - Hmm... by all means, share! As if the final product wasn't already awesome...

@endtransmission -I'd have to agree with limiting the selection. Part of the awe-factor for me was seeing how so much was done with such a limited line-up, and in that line-up, the Tzeentch sorcerer and necromancer... two models which were almost "rock solid" to me and nearly impossible to change up. The amount of Necro conversions totally blew me away. As did the other thread's entries for the grasshopper.

If it has to be something similar but not limited to sorcerers, etc... perhaps we could add a tagline to the title? "Fourty-kay Me!" or "STOP. Inquisitionize!" I see Manann's Blade Command Leader being a suitable entry... *sound of mindseye gears crunching and falling apart* Ugh... give me a month to recuperate and see how my classes are taking up my time...

Anyways, I love how this thread still lives after the game is over. I'll have to admit, Sunday and yesterday were feeling a bit... empty.

-Remi

**Baiyuan**

You got me wrong there, I wasn't saying any wfb release, just the ones in plastic sprues, there are not too many of those.

**Vitruvian XVII**

Id be up for it for sure! But it would be better if we were all limited to the same sets of minis as Endtransmission said.

**neil101**

second comp sounds cool , maybe a xmas dead line this time ?

@JRN the new model looks promising .....

**endtransmission**

Baiyuan wrote:You got me wrong there, I wasn't saying any wfb release, just the ones in plastic sprues, there are not too many of those.

No, you're fine, I do understand that.
I was just trying to say (and very badly apparently) that the original scope of 4 individual characters to choose from was nice and limited. The thing I enjoyed about this one was seeing how many variations came out of the Chaos sorcerer model. If one of your options was, for example, a unit of skeleton warriors, you've got loads of pose options in the box to start with.

If we took this month's fantasy releases as an example you've got two characters, a monster, a war machine and a box of cavalry to choose from (assuming you ignore the reboxed ogres). This offers a much larger scope of things to work with and means there would be far more variety coming through in the results.

It will, in the end, come down to what fantasy releases are actually released and what you guys decide

**Vitruvian XVII**

I think Baiyuan is just talking about the plastic character sprues, ie this month there are only 2 (Nurgle champ + saurus oldblood) but i could be wrong.