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Well, I never made it around to the other two Kan Squigs, but I added some more detail to the first one. I also had to reassemble it after a quick introduction to the floor.




I'm not entirely satisfied with the feet. For that reason the feet will likely be the most variation on the kanz. Then there's the exhaust and gun options to make. As is it will count as a grotzooka.

you might notice the moped template under it. I'm working on em... ever so slowly. Those templates are big enough that both wheels fit on an infantry base. The templates give me both the wheels and the body of the moped and I'll use some bits for the engines. Then it's on to posing the kroot.

Thanks for your input on my painboy options, guys. I like the idea of the second one bending over to examine a victim.

PS: As I was cutting out some mopeds I remembered another option for the mobile kroot. I could make them on jet bike sort of things based on Tau vehicle propulsion. The reason for the tau jet bikes idea was to conform better to the rules for jump infantry. I am still gonna make the mopeds, but I might try to keep the kroot removable so I can make the jet bikes with the same poses... but I think I'll only really go for the jet bikes if I start playing more competitively.

Been cutting out moped shaped bits of plastic... nothing to show for it yet. But I do have an outline for Da Chaptaz orkanizashun:

Da WAAAGH Chapta:
Master of the Chapter: Ghazghkull
Senior Officers: Meganobz, Mad Doc Grotsnik, Big Meks
Administrative and Support Staff: Grots and oddboyz
Techmarines: Meks
Servitors: Spanna Boyz, Grots, Cyborks
Librarians: Weirdboyz, Warpheadz
Dredz: 2-6 per krumpany, 1st Krumpany can have more and 10th krumpany can't have any, KMB only for Mek Dredz

Krumpany HQs
Captain: Warboss
Chaplain, Apothecary, Standard Bearer: Nobz, Painboy

1st Krumpany (Veterans)
Terminators: Meganobs
Veterans: Nobz, Flashgitz
Dreadnoughts: Deff Dreds, Mega Dredz (Character Dredz)
Rhinos: Trukks
Land Raiders: Battle Wagons

Battle Krumpaneez (2nd - 5th)
Tactical: Shoota Boyz
Assault: Slugga Boyz/Stormboyz/Hardboyz
Devastators: Tankbustas/Lootaz
Dreadnoughts: Deff Dreds (Dredz 0-2)
Rhinos: Trukks
Landspeeders: Deffkoptas/Warkoptaz
Bikes: Warbikers/Buggies

6th Krumpany
Tactical: Shoota Boyz
Dreadnoughts: Deff Dreds (Dakka Dredz)
Rhinos: Trukks
Bikes: Warbikers/Buggies

7th Krumpany
Tactical: Shoota Boyz
Dreadnoughts: Deff Dreds (Dakka Dredz)
Rhinos: Trukks
Landspeeders: Deffkoptas/Warkoptaz

8th Krumpany
Assault: Slugga Boyz/Stormboyz/Hardboyz
Dreadnoughts: Deff Dreds (Kutty Dredz)
Rhinos: Trukks
Landspeeders: Deffkoptas/Warkoptaz
Bikes: Warbikers/Buggies

9th Krumpany
Devastators: Tankbustas/Lootaz
Dreadnoughts: Deff Dreds (KMB/Rokkit Dredz)
Rhinos: Trukks

10th Krumpany
Scouts: Kommandos


Let me know what you think, if you have any additions or changes you think I should make. Also, if you have any ideas for how to individualize krumpany 2 thru 5. That is, if those chapters lean more toward shooting or close combat or more vehicles, anything like that.

This will help a lot when I get to painting the unit markings. Also, now the kommandos aren't just one of Gutsnik's assets but part a proppa part of Da WAAAGH Chapta (Da 10th Krumpany). Likewise, most of da boyz wut got sent to Gutsnik are from da rezerv krumpaneez, as he is a big mek, not a war boss.

Thanks for reading.

Looks like a 'sensible' organisation to me...I'll give it a bit more thought when I'm less tired maybe

Removable kroot for dual moped/jetbike use sounds even better to me

You lack Big Gunz.

@monkeytroll: Keep in mind this isn't an army list plan, just fun fluffy goodness. At least until I win the lotto and retire

@Anvildude: You're right, but I'm not sure where they would go. The only thing I can figure is the big gunz are in the armory or the mekanikus. Is there a big guns unit for Space Marines? I know there's a tech marine that can get a gun on tracks, but that's the mekanikus then.

Finally put in an order for some old metal world eater shoulder pads.

Where can you find Whirlwinds? Big gunz are essentially the artillery, aren't they?

Aren't those tanks? I was just thinking about auxiliary imperial guard, nothing but grots. It'd be a lot like the grots from Bigtoof, but more regimented and whipped into shape by ork kommissarz. But that's not gonna happen any time soon.

 The Good Green wrote:

@Anvildude: You're right, but I'm not sure where they would go. The only thing I can figure is the big gunz are in the armory or the mekanikus. Is there a big guns unit for Space Marines? I know there's a tech marine that can get a gun on tracks, but that's the mekanikus then.

Agreed with Anvildude, TFC would be the perfekt Big Gun !



And I don't think they belong to a specific company, rather in the Armoury... But you can always put them in the 9th Krumpany !

Moar dakka !

Well, now that the Big Gunz kit looks like it comes with a mek instead of a runtherd that sounds like more and more the plan. They'll be attached to Shakstof's shop as he is my shooty mek. So they still won't show up on Da Chapta Orkanizashun, instead they will be part of Da Mekanikus. I'm thinking the flashgitz will be assigned to Shakstof to get better at making and maintaining their snazzgunz. While the nobz are from three different sections of the waaagh. There is a mek and his irk servitors, a "chaplain" and his chosen nobz, and then Gutsnik's acolytes.

Also, I was looking into the daemons codex for good Gork and Mork "counts-as" units. I like the sound of a Bloodletter for Gork and a Keeper of Secrets for Mork. I don't know if you can summon greater daemons tho, cause I haven't had a chance to read 7th yet.

Well, if you're using them as proxies for Gork & Mork... why would it matter?? They aren't really summoned demons after all.

Wouldn't they be, if they come out of the warp onto the battlefield? They are the warp gods of the green skins after all. Also, there haven't ever been rules written for them, right? I figure the greater daemons are the best proxy in the game so far.

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were going to use them as proxies for the new Gorkonought and Morkonought. Not Gork and Mork themselves (my bad).

Thing is, they're described as so big and bad that Khorne himself won't pick a fight with them.

So.. 10s across the stat line? I dunno, just looking for a reasonable proxy. Also, wouldn't or couldn't some of that "boss of the warp" stuff be exaggerated rhetoric? I can agree that Gork and Mork should be at least as killy as Khorn, but maybe Khorn doesn't want to mess with them cause of their kunnin. Dey outsmarts 'im?

@Gits: Oh, that explains the confusion. I might try to figure out something for the 'naughts, but it won't be daemons. Something from da mekanikus for sure. Of course, any thoughts in that direction are a ways off.

edit: I'm getting excited about making a Deffskullz DJ with some of the flash glitz bitz... or a sound guy to go with the Goff Rockaz (when I finally get my hands on them)

I was getting tired of the hype for the new codex over the last week, so this happened





I also made a few of these


All that's left is to paint it... and you know how I am about painting

I also got a copy of the new codex and a blister of world eater shoulder pads.

Awesome gun ! Did you build it over a Nerf pistol ?

That looks to be Scratch Build, boyo.

Now I'm getting the itch to make a Choppa.

No nerf guns were harmed in the making of this slugga. It's made from cereal boxes.

Lol so it doesn't fire "real" nerf slugs ? Unless, well, you're a real Mek and then you can make a firing slugga from cereal boxes !

Don't discount the possibility. One of the most popular NERF "sniper rifles" used in Urban Gaming clubs is made from plexiglass and springs.

You know, I might work up a firin mekanizum fer da next 'un. Use this as a prototype.

I don't want to put the skull on the right side of the slugga. Any suggestions for what glyph to use? I've seen a couple that could work, but nothing has been jumping out at me.

Dakka? Frag?

I like the dakka for it, but I went with a checkered stripe. No pictures yet, but I'll be painting it up soonish. I'm also working on a revolver kustom job using a Hellboy revolver template and the slugga template. The bullets'll be modeled to look like plasma slugs.

I've also been trying to get a handle on the new detachment rules to field my army better. I'd like to use the irk detachments for the FoC multipliers and some of the special rules, but I'm worried about losing Obsec. Tho, I think with the right tactics and army build that could be negated - as in not leaving a unit on the objective to contest with... but I don't know which of our units is good for that now. At any rate, boyz most important role now seems to be satisfying FoC requirements. Everything else is a bonus.

Now that the Red Waaagh has come out I'm liking that Bigmek formation with 3 Big meks a Warboss and a Warphead. Then I can take painboys as HQs in a detachment That way, I've got my 2 Bigmeks and one extra, plus the my HQ characters from Bigtoof Proppa (Batork and Mork Da Ork)... AND I get to field the Nobz and Flashgitz with their own painboy again. I am also super happy about the Ghaz formation as my WAAAGH Chapta Mastaz.

So here's what I'm thinking:
Mogrok's Bossboyz
Snkirot's Kommandos
and 1 full CAD lead by 2 painboys.

...no to figure out how many points that is.

I've been working on another life-sized slugga, but I wanted to make it a kustom-mega-slugga... so it's taking a bit longer.

On the other hand, just this morning I realized I had enough boyz in my Deff Towin Boyz pile and enough shootaz (or almost enough) to make them a legal allied detachment. I'll be using a painboy as the HQ, or maybe just a regular mek to save points if needed. I've got a bunch of RT era meks that I'll be using as Lootas. Anyhoo, here's some pics:

Here's the lootaz, not much to look at, as I haven't started any of their gunz (save the one)

There's 5 meks there that can easily count as lootaz (four need their gunz built and the other has a metal KMB that I'll proxy) and the three on the right will be the meks.

Here's da Boyz:

You might notice there's a banna and the nob has a bosspole

These two are the upper management, the nob and big shoota from the boyz squad


Here's the madboyz and their minder. The minder doubles as the runtherd of the company... the trots are on the buggies

The two madboyz arms are pinned into place, but I've got them blu-tak'ed on for painting sake later.

I know I've said it before but I'd like to reiterate anyway... the idea for this detachment is a trukk broke down and was left behind by their WAAAGH. Since the trukk was busted it had a few meks working on it when the warband left, leaving the meks and a few boyz stranded. Well, the reason it was taking the meks so long to repair the trukk was because their area of expertise is more in the dakka region. As a result, instead of repairing the trukk with which to catch up to the WAAAGH, the meks made a load of deff gunz. Well, the lowly nob that was with them had a hard time being mad at the mixup because now he had a load of deff gunz for his boyz. He did manage to get the meks to make some new wheels, but each mek made their own ride. In this way, none of the vehicles were big enough to fit all of the boyz AND the deff gunz, so the nob had them retrofitted to collect more scrap to make a better trukk. Eventually the meks did get around to making a trukk for da boyz, but by then the band had grown. At any rate, the nob was getting wise to the idea that they were making a profit off collecting scrap, so he didn't want to leave any more. They build quite a business for themselves, towin' wrecks and broken down trukks for anyone they found. The Deff Skullz would fix up the ride and ransom it back to who ever had served waiting for the repairs.

After a while the Ordo Gorkamorka landed near by and Gutsnik became their biggest customer. After a while he sent Shakstoff to recruit them into Da Mekanikus. There was a bit of a fight, but when Shakstoff sent a few of them into the warp with his SAG, the Deff Skullz were both terrified and amazed. They agreed to join Gutnik's Waaagh with the hope that Shakstoff would show them how he made the SAG.

Here's a pics of the dok's hurty syringe

So I put together four deff gunz. There's a little bit more detail that I will add to some of them, like metal strips to hold pieces together and drilling barrels. Anyhoo, here's some pics:




Above is the one that needs the metal strips to "attach" the GW bits to the blue bit.


I feel like this one needs some metal strips too, to attach the barrels to the body of the gun. Also, I'm not super happy with this one. I've straightened out the barrels a bit, but it seems the most forced to me. Mainly because of the barrels, I think. I may switch them out for some plastic rods.


Here's my favorite of the bunch. I wanted this lootaz gun to be special, because he's the RTE SAG mek model. So I thought his deff gun should be the biggest.

Let me know what you think. Also, if you have any suggestions for the 3rd deffgun, lob 'em at me. Thanks for reading.

You know, after assembling the Deff Skullz Towin crew I realized I have a ton of infantry models almost ready to paint. With the new HQ options I can field them as their own army. I've got 6+ HQ options that are mostly meks.

Maybe you guys can clear something up for me: can the mek boyz be your only HQ? I know they aren't IC and we can take them as a +1 for other HQs, but I can't find anything that says they can't be the only HQ.

Meanwhile, I've got almost 2000 points worth of infantry without upgrades... and I have finally started putting the first moped together. nothing with pics yet. The school year just started up again so work on them won't be much faster, sadly.

I'm getting pretty happy with how my army is shaping up. I've been window shopping for a display case... any suggestions?

Mek boyz can't be your only HQ because you can only take them when you take a HQ choice. They're only boyz after all, they can't be bosses! They have to have someone to boss 'em around.

 Deunstephe wrote:
Mek boyz can't be your only HQ because you can only take them when you take a HQ choice. They're only boyz after all, they can't be bosses! They have to have someone to boss 'em around.

Pretty much this.

You also can include them in huge quantities in Loota & Burna squads, so that shouldn't be a problem !

Hrmph and curmudgeon. I guess that makes sense, but the wording on the special rule gives me hope. After all, it doesn't say they can't be the only one, just that they can't be taken as a mekboy's +1. But that's why I made a painboy for the Deff Towin mob. Plus, I found a few old grot models (namely the grot hooligan from blood bowl) that will do nicely for killsaw meks. They'll end up being my Repentia Grot models, survivors of the SAG that now wield massive chainsaw weapons.

Good grief. I have been away for so long that I forgot my password, and the password for my email that I used to create my first account here... so I've created this one to try and pick up the blog again. That's right, it's the slow and purposeful return of the good green. It's been a while, like I said above, and I haven't done too much in the hobby. I have upgraded my army storage to a display case and a few details here and there. Well, just yesterday I started three new lootaz for my Deff Towin' crew. The idea came when I found the figures. all three are old fantasy arrow orcs. I thought they would look good reloading some dakka so I set to work making the gunz. I really like how the guns turned out, but they look more like flashgit guns to me. Anyhow, that makes seven lootaz with deffgunz and plenty of meks to fill out the unit.




I hope I don't set off too many alarms trying to bring this old thread back from the dead, and thanks for reading.