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Bakerofish wrote:

LOL Finecast Void???

That is hilarious...

Finecast Void may be the best/worst intentional/unintentional pun in wargaming.

I think by now we all know what this meens:https://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=1900054-gws

infinite_array wrote:Finecast Void may be the best/worst intentional/unintentional pun in wargaming.

Yeah...the color is "Nuln Oil".

The poster in question used Photoshop to alter it to say "Finecast Void"--and in the process added a spam post to an informative thread.

hey i resent that...i spent 5 minutes on that photoshop job

besides! its a very trademarkable name

Kanluwen wrote:

infinite_array wrote:Finecast Void may be the best/worst intentional/unintentional pun in wargaming.

Yeah...the color is "Nuln Oil".

The poster in question used Photoshop to alter it to say "Finecast Void"--and in the process added a spam post to an informative thread.

But it was pretty funny

Alpharius wrote:

Goatboy wrote:<snip>

I'm not sure any of that was necessary at this point in the thread.

Please refrain from posting similar things going forward.

Thanks!

I merely reiterated what has been said. I cant believe a Moderator would jump all over my post for one bad word. Censorship is ridiculousness, even here. If I would have said gak you would have left the post.

Again I stand by the left over comments./ This thread turned out to be whining from fan boys and non fan boys that GW is a big evil empire.

The paints that are dry when you bought them are probably new old stock. They nthey were changing and scraped the bottom of the batch to fill orders. I'll bet if you took the pot back they freely gave you a new pot of the same paint. Probably no questions asked. I for one have never had any issues at my local GW store, even when they brought new managers into the store.


shame on dakka for editing/censoring a post. I do apologize for the bad word


Remorsefully yours,

Goatboy

You clearly understand the rules, no swearing, no rudeness. You are entirely correct that if you had said Gak then it would have been allowed. So, if you understand all that, why are you surprised if you get in trouble then? If you don't like censorship, you are entitled to your opinion. You are however not entitled to act on it here, I respectfully suggest you simply accept that fact and conduct yourself according to our rules so that we can all relax and enjoy the forum. Thank you, MT11


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I like the new logo on the bottle.
My issue is the font should be bigger and not dark on some bottles.
I for one will have some of them.
The colors look nice


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ohhhhhhh just noticed the red bottle in the boxes is standing up..Possible the clip is on all pots?

I now understand GW's true intent behind this change. Look at all of the paint pots. There's a "TM" after all of the names.

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:IT'S A TRAP!!!

Sorry for the melodramatics, but it's my default mode when dealing with GW

People were wondering earlier why so many colours, but is it beyond most painters to add white or black to their colour to get a lighter/darker shade?

As for textured paint - just add some sand.

This is one big GW **** sandwich, but I'm not taking a bite!

Just means more colors to add black or white to

Brother Weasel wrote:And why can't the paint change be something like, higher quality paint? we don't know why they are making a change... cold be purly a business desision involving relations with the company they used to use, they could want more control... or, they could want to improve thier line... who knows...

Gotta love people complaing about what they don't know... for all you know your paints will be exactly the same with a new name... hence my "doom and gloom" comments... could be the same could be diffrent, but stop the freekout till you know... (and no cameron, i'm not saying you)

personally, GW has done more right with actual minis and products, then wrong... i'm not talking quantity, or price or what not, i'm talking quality of products... they have splendid plastics, great quality of paints (not all of them, but then vellejo has problems as well) and a wide range of other quality products... (if you don't use gw paints anyways then who really cares what they do, much like people who hate everythign 40k then jump into every topic to tell you)

as for paints, some are better then others, but no paint is magic i find various paints better for different things, snakebite leather is one of the best paints out there, and vellejo green always sucks... but from there, it's just what you do, how you do it, and how well you can make it work... (craft paints suck if you work top level type of stuff, as the pigments are pretty big, bit most people who paint to play and not paint to paint won't notice....

least that's how i see it

Why not me? Don't you know, I'm wetting myself over this, losing sleep that my beloved two purples are going forever, that I'll never paint in this colours again???

WHY GW, WHY!!!! :@P ;@)

Seriously, though... I'm not worried either way. I've done the research, I'm ready to react should all the colours change, and I'll definitely be having me some Vallejo paints... they've got some wonderful metallics in their range. All the better for me.

As for the paint maybe being better, that is a given. In the original rumours I was hearing, the paint company in Michigan had been told to make the paints at grade 42, which was much higher in quality than before. As I've said already, I think they had the idea of creating a whole new range, with lots of new categories, with lots of weird names that can't be easily aped by other companies, and with a lot of changes to the range to stop other companies from copying their paints, as has happened in the past. All great on paper... but not for the customer. And this is where it falls down dead. I don't think the execs are evil, or greedy, just monumentally clueless about what is happening at customer level, and are out of touch with us. They also have no ability at the moment to use all the latest technologies, and are behind the times, so to speak.

(To clarify: I've been joking. I've not given the GW paints much thought, been more focussed in haning out with friends, and worrying about scenes for a novel I've been writing. Obsessing on getting scenes in the story right rates more highly that whether Gibbon orange is being replaced with Leman Russ's hair Orange. I have my priorities straight, honest. )

spiraleddie wrote:So does 145 relate to the new paint range? the teaser has a silhoutted shield shape that "sprayed" in various colours so i wonder

You know, you're right... I'm having second thoughts too. Maybe it's a revealing of a new shield for models that changes colours every few seconds? :@P

Goatboy wrote:Maybe GW is putting one over on us with the names?

Maybe GW doesn't want you to repaint models or extend you armies?

Maybe GW wants you to buy all new armies and start from scratch?

Maybe GW really listens to the players at the stores in the UK and could care less for rants as found in Dakka and Warseer?

I'm not convinced they read any message boards for the simple reason they do not have an official board?

I for one will have to stick to GW as I paint models for friends and they like the colors in the book?

If I find one good color from the range Im happy, for my personal items I'm sticking to P3.

Maybe GW is more sensible than to send out fake/joke reports from them?

Maybe GW execs don't paint armies, so don't actually have knowledge and understanding of what they are selling?

Maybe GW execs have no real idea about the individual armies, or the details of the worlds they fight in, because they are paid to think about corporate dynamism, new modelling paradigms, and pushing forth with revolutionary model strategies?

Maybe GW execs are not asking the customers what they think or like, because they've not considered that customer input could help enhance the company's products?

Maybe they don't have an official board, because they are not aware of the usefulness of an official forum?

Maybe your friends will have to give up having their armies in the colours dictated in the book, because the colours are discontinued?

If I find one good colour in the range, I'll be nervous to take it up, because it might disappear in a couple of years, due to lack of demand... Every other collour will be from a selection of alternatives.

Leigen_Zero wrote:I'm not really sure what the fuss is about. All they seem to have done is change the names (mostly) to names that are easier for them to sue over in a IP case.

I'm quite interested in the textured and drybrush-focused paints, might be quite interesting to dabble with

Otherwise, the 'main' paints seem essentially the same

The paints are all changing. New company, new formulas. Even if it is the same colour. The new company can't use the old formula, because that is a breach of trademark, or something to that effect. They could back-engineer a similar colour, with their materials and techniques, but it'd be different in the end.

Bakerofish wrote: i will reserve judgement of the quality of paints later. They TOUCHED Chaos Black. There is NO MORE Chaos Black. Im hoping that Abaddon black will be the same or better...otherwise...crap

I will say this now though. 145 is a LOT of colors to sustain. Someone mentioned this earlier that there will be colors cut from the range sometime or another. I know Reaper has cut colors from their range that just wasnt selling

Knowing that...this makes me apprehensive about getting attached to any color. I dont want to fall in love with a shade of purple for instance only to find 3 years down the line that theyre cutting it

I agree. I want to find something wonderful in the new colours, but... will that colour disappear, leaving me in the lurch?

Headaches, headaches all round...

NAVARRO wrote:145 overpriced pots that will dry faster than most other brands... If they took the time to change things to useless names and add more paints and they KNOW paints dry fast on their pots ( because I have seen and bought several new pots with already dried up paints inside on diferent retailers before giving up on them) why on earth did they not change the pots? Its a rethorical question because the answer its quite obvious to me...

I only had some washes and one or gw two pots on a collection of hundreds vallejos ( all good and not dried up for many many years) and I liked them so lets see if GW changed that also!

All the changing over the years and the fct others supply with much superior products made me change from full GW paints collections to others... Looking at this thread i feel the need to invest in more P3 and andrea's

I'll still be using foundations, until I can work out decent, stable alternatives. And stocking up on certain Foundations that are used a lot, until I can switch over to something new. Other stuff will be sourced from elsewhere, to make sure i don't have all this to repeat.

Brother Weasel wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

Brother Weasel wrote:And why can't the paint change be something like, higher quality paint?

I can't follow you here. The whole point of renaming is that they changed the formula and consistency to improve the paint. And adding completely new stuff like textured paints.

whats not to follow? simply, I would agree that they are making the change to improve quality, but we don't know it for sure (and it was more directed at the general naysayers who think they are making a paint change just to copyright names with no improvement... )

I think that there are many factors involved in this action, none of it factoring the customer's perspective. Which is where the suckiness sets in. Because they don't realise what panic and frustration having a change of paints halfway through an army, only to find that you're the last to know, so the paints you want to stock up on have vanished, leaving you with irritating and annoying choices to make. Or, to have to hunt down the places that still have the stock.

But the change won't be down to one single idea. This much I've concluded.

Goatboy wrote:Honestly why would GW trademark a paint or the name of a paint. The costs associated with naming this would be huge and involve a lot ot time and resources.

Here's what we know for sure.


Nothing,

We suspect

Paint names,
New colors
Old colors going by bye
different lids
same lids
new pots


At issue

Wha wha wha (baby crying)

My 14 year old army will no longer be able to match the new colors.

I wont like thenm just because this is GW

I wont use them just because they are GW

GW hates me

GW doesnt listen.


My god have we all turned into raging lunatics? All this lost energy could be better spent by painting a model or playing a game. Hell one friend never paints any model and still kicks ass

No, but it seems you want to derail an important threat with inflammatory comments. And the pots and lids seem to be staying, based on the image of the ebay sale we have.

What we Know is that independant sellers have been told to run down stock, and to save up money for a huge outlay. As far as these guys are concerned, that is telling them the paints are changing.

What else do we know? Well, the paint guides on the GW site have been removed for months now, that more than one rumour has mentioned a paint company in Michigan as the new supplier, and that the grade of paint is meant to be much higher, now grade 42 out of a possible fifty. We know there is meant to be 143 or so paints in this range, and we have a potential list that corralate3s not just with the first rumours, but the image of an ebay sale I've already mentioned, which had paints that have been correlating with the list, not to mention that those labels on the pots, to me at least, seemed too genuine to be fake. We also have the fact that GW managers have been saying there's no paint right now, and that there will be something soon. They clam up when asked for more details.

Also, based on what folks have added to this thread, there seems to be evidence that employees of GW have known for a while, having to sign non disclosure forms in a very Secret Service twist. GW employees, when shown by good friends the paint list on this thread, have said they can't comment, but then added that the list is scarily accurate. We also have the paint guide, which seems to have been copyrighted some time last year, and seems scanned into the computer, which adds authenticity in my mind, because a faker would create it on the computer, then post it. They wouldn't go and print it up, then scan it in, then post the scanned images up, unless they're really, really used to looking at Conspiracy Theories, and love to take them apart to see if there is anything authentic to them. (Like I am...)

Oh, and there's a big announcement coming on Saturday, and it seems obvious that it will be about the paints.

As for raging lunatics... well, sorry, you seem to be all alone in that corner... And all this lost energy replying to your asinine comment in a proper and decent response would have been better spent getting more novel done. So, thanks for draining my time away from me...

Alpharius wrote:

Goatboy wrote:<snip>

I'm not sure any of that was necessary at this point in the thread.

Please refrain from posting similar things going forward.

Thanks!

Agreed.

Sorry for replying to his post, but I thought a re-cap of the clues and evidence and rumours could be useful at this point.

infinite_array wrote:Finecast Void may be the best/worst intentional/unintentional pun in wargaming.

Touche Sir, there must be an award for this one surely? It's going in my Sig.

oni wrote:I now understand GW's true intent behind this change. Look at all of the paint pots. There's a "TM" after all of the names.

That's part of it. GW wants to put a 'TM' after everything. They even claimed an unspoken trade mark on spikes, skulls, arrows and chevrons in their CHS case.

Basically they want a future that looks like this:

“Coming soon to a Games Workshop™ Hobby Centre™ - Codex™: Space Marines™. All new for the 6th edition of Warhammer™ 40,000™, Codex™: Space Marines™ opens up new avenues of destruction as you unleash the armies of the Imperium™ against the enemies of the Emperor™. Will you send in legions of Tactical™ Marines™? Maybe flank them with some Assault™ Marines™? Or perhaps destroy them from afar with your Devastator™ Marines™? And you’re going to need to paint the fine crafted Citadel™ Miniatures™, so use our new range of Citadel™ Paints™, including such great and obvious colours like Necron™ Compound™ and The Fang™ and XV-88™. Also, arrows™ and skulls™!!!”

Okay, this might end up somewhat confused, I'm still getting used to the Multi Quote system...

infinite_array wrote:Finecast Void may be the best/worst intentional/unintentional pun in wargaming.

Certainly worth keeping... Imagine printing up that image, and showing a GW employee, and asking them how accurate the pic is, and see them go funny colours at "Finecast Void"....

Hugs-for-the-Hug-God wrote:I think by now we all know what this meens:https://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=1900054-gws

Yes, it does. The shield thingy in the advert matches the shield paint thingy behind the letters on the label...

I'm holding this rumour now as utterly confirmed...

Bakerofish wrote:hey i resent that...i spent 5 minutes on that photoshop job

besides! its a very trademarkable name

Certainly one that'll go down in history...

Goatboy wrote:

Alpharius wrote:

Goatboy wrote:<snip>

I'm not sure any of that was necessary at this point in the thread.

Please refrain from posting similar things going forward.

Thanks!

I merely reiterated what has been said. I cant believe a Moderator would jump all over my post for one bad word. Censorship is ridiculousness, even here. If I would have said gak you would have left the post.

Again I stand by the left over comments./ This thread turned out to be whining from fan boys and non fan boys that GW is a big evil empire.

The paints that are dry when you bought them are probably new old stock. They nthey were changing and scraped the bottom of the batch to fill orders. I'll bet if you took the pot back they freely gave you a new pot of the same paint. Probably no questions asked. I for one have never had any issues at my local GW store, even when they brought new managers into the store.


shame on dakka for editing/censoring a post. I do apologize for the bad word


Remorsefully yours,

Goatboy

You clearly understand the rules, no swearing, no rudeness. You are entirely correct that if you had said Gak then it would have been allowed. So, if you understand all that, why are you surprised if you get in trouble then? If you don't like censorship, you are entitled to your opinion. You are however not entitled to act on it here, I respectfully suggest you simply accept that fact and conduct yourself according to our rules so that we can all relax and enjoy the forum. Thank you, MT11


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I like the new logo on the bottle.
My issue is the font should be bigger and not dark on some bottles.
I for one will have some of them.
The colors look nice


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ohhhhhhh just noticed the red bottle in the boxes is standing up..Possible the clip is on all pots?

Like the Moderator said. Please stop trying to wind us up. And that complaint about censorship sounds like a naughty child who has been caught out and disciplined, and is complaining about the telling off...

oni wrote:I now understand GW's true intent behind this change. Look at all of the paint pots. There's a "TM" after all of the names.

I noticed that too. Given the whole Chapterhouse legal war, I wonder i9f this is a reaction to that, to prevent more legal warfare in the future... by creating an active trademark, they've protected their range.

I could also being too generous towards them, and there are other, more dubious motives at work...

Kroothawk wrote:Here two more leaked pics, a.o. showing the new paint sets and one of the books:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Interesting. The book has colour swatch/patch blobs to show the different colours, and it matches up with what was posted a day or so ago.

Kanluwen wrote:Huh. That book is a good design; looks like they went with how Testors does their technical painting guides.

That's a Very Good Thing, as my one complaint with the FW Masterclass/Osprey Publishing Masterclasses is that they're big, solid books and really well printed--making one worry that you might damage it while painting.


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SIDENOTE!

That is a set of freaking Dark Angels in the painting set.

How much invalidated does this make the old paint guide book? Because I only got mine in January...

Balance wrote:Is 'technical' the family name for primers, sealers, and similar "not quite normal paints"?

Given the fact that Liquid Green Stuff is in it, I think it is a special range to deal with Finecast failures...

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:IT'S A TRAP!!!

Sorry for the melodramatics, but it's my default mode when dealing with GW

People were wondering earlier why so many colours, but is it beyond most painters to add white or black to their colour to get a lighter/darker shade?

As for textured paint - just add some sand.

This is one big GW **** sandwich, but I'm not taking a bite!

I'm wary of all of this myself... And the Ackbar quote will always be awesome to me, no matter how many times it is used... :@)

Cameron Baum wrote:How much invalidated does this make the old paint guide book? Because I only got mine in January...

Well, the "old" paint guide book uses the current range of paints yes?

The colors might be the same, but it would get slightly confusing I'd think to use the old one with the new range of paints.

mwnciboo wrote:

infinite_array wrote:Finecast Void may be the best/worst intentional/unintentional pun in wargaming.

Touche Sir, there must be an award for this one surely? It's going in my Sig.

Did you miss the part about it being photoshopped by the guy who posted it?

Kanluwen wrote:Yeah...the color is "Nuln Oil".

H.B.M.C. wrote:

oni wrote:I now understand GW's true intent behind this change. Look at all of the paint pots. There's a "TM" after all of the names.

That's part of it. GW wants to put a 'TM' after everything. They even claimed an unspoken trade mark on spikes, skulls, arrows and chevrons in their CHS case.

Basically they want a future that looks like this:

“Coming soon to a Games Workshop™ Hobby Centre™ - Codex™: Space Marines™. All new for the 6th edition of Warhammer™ 40,000™, Codex™: Space Marines™ opens up new avenues of destruction as you unleash the armies of the Imperium™ against the enemies of the Emperor™. Will you send in legions of Tactical™ Marines™? Maybe flank them with some Assault™ Marines™? Or perhaps destroy them from afar with your Devastator™ Marines™? And you’re going to need to paint the fine crafted Citadel™ Miniatures™, so use our new range of Citadel™ Paints™, including such great and obvious colours like Necron™ Compound™ and The Fang™ and XV-88™. Also, arrows™ and skulls™!!!”

You know, in the early nineties, Paramount started doing that more and more with Star Trek. It got annoying reading the blurb on the back of the novel, and having to field TM every other sentance or word... They gave up in the end, because they realised it was pointless, and people didn't care. They were only getting annoyed.

I see something similar happening with GW(TM)....


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Breotan wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:

infinite_array wrote:Finecast Void may be the best/worst intentional/unintentional pun in wargaming.

Touche Sir, there must be an award for this one surely? It's going in my Sig.

Did you miss the part about it being photoshopped by the guy who posted it?

Who cares? Still funny... :@)

But not as much as if GW actually did it.

Was almost excited, "fine cast void". Best colour ever.
XP

As for the new paints, I find it interested the new 40k starter set is how to paint dark angles. Gives atleast some credit to the dark angles part of the rumored Dark Angles Vs. Chaos Starter set rumors.


Anyone know if new empire stuff has been leaked from this WD or no?


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stubacca wrote:
Thank you for that patronising reply. I'm surprised you didn't include diagrams.

All I was simply saying was that I'm surprised those little tabs aren't on every pot, I really didn't a need red highlighted reply

I'm not trying to stir up bad blood. I was just REALY confused why you asked "why the nubs gone?" to a post about why I'm happy they are gone. If it was just meant as a general statement I didn't get that from the fact your were replying to me specificly.
o.o

I also apologize if my post came across as "patronising", it was not my intent. I legitimately thought you miss read my post, as I've made that mistake before when quickly reading someone's post. I legitimately want to apologize about that.

Lockark wrote:Was almost excited, but had to raise a eye brow at "fine cast void"


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stubacca wrote:

Lockark wrote:

stubacca wrote:

Lockark wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:145 overpriced pots that will dry faster than most other brands... If they took the time to change things to useless names and add more paints and they KNOW paints dry fast on their pots ( because I have seen and bought several new pots with already dried up paints inside on diferent retailers before giving up on them) why on earth did they not change the pots? Its a rethorical question because the answer its quite obvious to me...

I only had some washes and one or gw two pots on a collection of hundreds vallejos ( all good and not dried up for many many years) and I liked them so lets see if GW changed that also!

All the changing over the years and the fct others supply with much superior products made me change from full GW paints collections to others... Looking at this thread i feel the need to invest in more P3 and andrea's

I've found ever since threy switch the to new clear plastic pots from the Black tops, my paint don't dry at all any more. Don't get me wrong. Thows black top pots were TERRIBLE for keeping paint in. But the new ones have done allot to address that problem for me. I know some people hate them since they don't stay open, but I've gotten use to it for the sake of pots that seal properly.

I also found the orginal white toppers the foundations came in did not seal correctly and thows paints would dry up really bad also. But after they got rid of the nub on the back that keeps the pot opened, I no longer had a problem with foundations drying out.

That's what I don't get, the washes and, it looks like, the foundation paints have that little tab that, if you pop the lid back far enough, keeps the lid from closing. Why they don't do this on every single pot, I don't know. The clear pots are infinitely better than the black topped ones though, I'm glad they've changed them

uummm.... Did you even read my post?

"I found the orginal white toppers the foundations came in did not seal correctly and thows paints would dry up really bad also. But after they got rid of the nub on the back that keeps the pot opened, I no longer had a problem with foundations drying out."

Not trying to be a jerk. Just highlighting what I've already said.
>___>

Thank you for that patronising reply. I'm surprised you didn't include diagrams.

All I was simply saying was that I'm surprised those little tabs aren't on every pot, I really didn't a need red highlighted reply

I'm not trying to stir up bad blood. I was just REALY confused why you asked "why the nubs gone?" to a post about why I'm happy they are gone. If it was just meant as a general statement I didn't get that from the fact your were replying to me specificly.

I also apologize if my post came across as "patronising", it was not my intent. I legitimately thought you miss read my post, as I've made that mistake before when quickly reading someone's post. I legitmitly want to apologize about that.


As for the new paints, I find it interested the new 40k starter set is how to paint dark angles. Gives atleast some credit to the dark angles part of the rumored Dark Angles Vs. Chaos Starter set rumors.


Anyone know if new empire stuff has been leaked from this WD or no?

haha, it's cool. The downside of the internet, you can't really get a grip on how someone has written something.

Lockark wrote:Was almost excited, but had to raise a eye brow at "fine cast void"

As for the new paints, I find it interested the new 40k starter set is how to paint dark angles. Gives atleast some credit to the dark angles part of the rumored Dark Angles Vs. Chaos Starter set rumors.


Anyone know if new empire stuff has been leaked from this WD or no?

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Er... dark angles????? Chaos demons will be fighting against vigilante mathematical equipment?

This has brought some very funny images to my mind...


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Breotan wrote:But not as much as if GW actually did it.

Maybe they did, and someone lowly spotted the mistake in time, and quietly changed...

Perhaps this should be the new name for Liquid Green Stuff?

Cameron Baum wrote:
Er... dark angles????? Chaos demons will be fighting against vigilante mathematical equipment?

This has brought some very funny images to my mind...

What that- huh. How one typo can change a whole word.

XD

Lockark wrote:

Cameron Baum wrote:
Er... dark angles????? Chaos demons will be fighting against vigilante mathematical equipment?

This has brought some very funny images to my mind...

What that- huh. How one typo can change a whole word.

XD

I know. It really made me laugh heaps when I realised what you'd put up. Think it is truly awesome, by the way. :@)


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Had to put it in my sig. It is an awesome screw-up, in all the right ways. You've gained awesomeness points with it. :@)


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Kanluwen wrote:

Cameron Baum wrote:How much invalidated does this make the old paint guide book? Because I only got mine in January...

Well, the "old" paint guide book uses the current range of paints yes?

The colors might be the same, but it would get slightly confusing I'd think to use the old one with the new range of paints.

But the techniques will still be okay, yes? That's what I'm thinking about. And the book has no DE, which is what i have, so I don't look at the colour schemes in it anyway. :@)

Omg that GW teaser was the corniest thing I've ever seen

But if I wasn't a member of the online rumour mongering community... I would be totally stumped about what it is. I would've never dreamed GW would give us 145 colors.... I was overwhelmed with the Mega Paint Set last winter, and I could hardly imagine them doubling it.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Omg that GW teaser was the corniest thing I've ever seen

But if I wasn't a member of the online rumour mongering community... I would be totally stumped about what it is. I would've never dreamed GW would give us 145 colors.... I was overwhelmed with the Mega Paint Set last winter, and I could hardly imagine them doubling it.

Don't worry, they'll shrink it a lot in a couple of years time...

H.B.M.C. wrote:“Coming soon to a Games Workshop™ Hobby Centre™ - Codex™: Space Marines™. All new for the 6th edition of Warhammer™ 40,000™, Codex™: Space Marines™ opens up new avenues of destruction as you unleash the armies of the Imperium™ against the enemies of the Emperor™. Will you send in legions of Tactical™ Marines™? Maybe flank them with some Assault™ Marines™? Or perhaps destroy them from afar with your Devastator™ Marines™? And you’re going to need to paint the fine crafted Citadel™ Miniatures™, so use our new range of Citadel™ Paints™, including such great and obvious colours like Necron™ Compound™ and The Fang™ and XV-88™. Also, arrows™ and skulls™!!!”

You missed armies™, enemies™, legions™, paint™ and colours™. Although they might need to change that last to 'kolours™'...

I do find the 'coming soon' a bit hard to believe, though. Sounds a bit much like a preview, and we know GW's feelings down that line. Probably should instead read 'Released last week, and hidden away in a little box at the back of the store where nobody can see them, as endorsed by the Games Workshop™ 'How To Build Hype About Games Workshop Releases™' booklet being distributed to stores.'

Cameron Baum wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

oni wrote:I now understand GW's true intent behind this change. Look at all of the paint pots. There's a "TM" after all of the names.

That's part of it. GW wants to put a 'TM' after everything. They even claimed an unspoken trade mark on spikes, skulls, arrows and chevrons in their CHS case.

Basically they want a future that looks like this:

“Coming soon to a Games Workshop™ Hobby Centre™ - Codex™: Space Marines™. All new for the 6th edition of Warhammer™ 40,000™, Codex™: Space Marines™ opens up new avenues of destruction as you unleash the armies of the Imperium™ against the enemies of the Emperor™. Will you send in legions of Tactical™ Marines™? Maybe flank them with some Assault™ Marines™? Or perhaps destroy them from afar with your Devastator™ Marines™? And you’re going to need to paint the fine crafted Citadel™ Miniatures™, so use our new range of Citadel™ Paints™, including such great and obvious colours like Necron™ Compound™ and The Fang™ and XV-88™. Also, arrows™ and skulls™!!!”

You know, in the early nineties, Paramount started doing that more and more with Star Trek. It got annoying reading the blurb on the back of the novel, and having to field TM every other sentance or word... They gave up in the end, because they realised it was pointless, and people didn't care. They were only getting annoyed.

I see something similar happening with GW(TM)....

At least we know GW is advancing, instead of using failed business practices from the 80's they're now using failed business practices from the 90's. Silver lining!


Kind Regards,
Vladsimpaler

Well not a fans of the names (or the fact they have changed everything) but if I don't want to buy it ....then I just won't.

Painting guide looks interesting tho...more than likely grab it as getting my little one's into it and well I'm no golden deamon winner so will come in handy.
So how about them Empire pics now hey???

Cameron Baum wrote:words

While i understand your points... i do not fault them for making a paint change... unless the paint turns out to be poor quality (which i doubt)... at some point, if they want to advance their paint (and i don't fool myself to think that everyone will think it's better, even if it's liquid gold).. at some point it has to change...

Also all the GW stores are getting the demos of the new paints tomorrow, and will be shown off starting the 24th.

I got to use some today and Mephiston red is a pretty slick red but it sure in hell isnt a foundation, As for the dry and texture paint? Complete Garbage, Im sure there is a use for it for something but it sucks.

I have a slight case of TL;DR... Was the company in Michigan that is making the new paints named? As I live in MI, and am unemployed ATM, I might drop a resume (CV) off.