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Slinky wrote:Saw this article linked to at B&C:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=8000028a

at first i thought it was old but it mentions furious charge (not in the last two pdfs) and infernus pistols for the tactical marine sergeants (definitely new). i'm not liking the "new" color scheme but it doesn't really mater for me as my blood angels successor chapter paint scheme was different to begin with.

I find it interesting it mentions razorbacks when everything else we have has told us no razorbacks thus far.

Neconilis wrote:I find it interesting it mentions razorbacks when everything else we have has told us no razorbacks thus far.

not everything. i've seen on several sites a rumor (maybe the same rumor copied and pasted, maybe different sources... don't know) that you need a techmarine to get the razorbacks.

I stand corrected then and I can certainly manage that if it's true, better than having to run a standard SM list to use my razorbacks.

I think the razorback rumour started as a misinterpretation of the dedicated transports rule. Im sure you can still take them with squads as normal.

Can someone copy and paste the GW article, clicking on it or pasting it in just takes me to the home page

The article isn't available on the site any more... looks like it may have just been an "oops"... intentional or otherwise.

Did anyone happen to catch who had written it? I'm wondering if it provides a hint as to who authored the upcoming codex...

The article was a "BA Tactical Marines are good, how to paint"

rdlb wrote:Can someone copy and paste the GW article, clicking on it or pasting it in just takes me to the home page

* Blood Angels: Tactical Marine Painting Stage-by-Stage

Introduction
— Article by Andrew Kenrick & Nick Bayton

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At the core of any Blood Angels army are squads of Tactical Space Marines, reliable and stalwart Space Marines able to turn their considerable skills to any battlefield role. They are flexible units, as confident on the attack as they are at defence. Tactical Marines might be tasked to hold key objectives in the face of overwhelming numbers, or they might be used to spearhead an advance into the heart of the enemy battleline.

The standard armament of a Tactical Marine is the boltgun, a formidable weapon that fires a relentless hail of explosive warheads. As well as the boltgun, Tactical Marines are trained in the use of more specialist weaponry, from deadly flamers to long-ranged lascannons, allowing a squad to go to war with the right combination of wargear for the task at hand. In addition, Blood Angels Tactical Marines are all trained in the use of jump packs and close combat weaponry, so when the need arises they can take to the air in the role of Assault Marines instead.

Tactical Marines are often mechanised, riding to war in fast-moving Rhinos or accompanied by heavily armed Razorbacks. Unlike other Space Marine Chapters, the Blood Angels often employ Land Raiders to transport their Tactical Marines to battle, providing these mainline warriors with an unparalleled level of protection and firepower.

On the Tabletop

Tactical Squads are the most flexible troops in the Blood Angels army, able to be equipped with a variety of weaponry suited to the role you wish them to perform. They can be used to hang back and defend objectives, armed with longer-ranged weapons such as missile launchers and plasma guns, or sent forwards to drive the enemy back, in which case flamers, melta guns and multi-meltas are key. Better still, because a Tactical Squad can split into two Combat Squads when you deploy it, they can perform both roles at the same time.

Use them to:
Hold Ground: Plant a unit of Tactical Marines on an objective and they won't be going anywhere in a hurry. They have a great armour save, can pump out a truly horrible amount of firepower if the enemy draws too near (and a fair amount even at range) and are unlikely to fall back if they come under sustained assault. When playing Seize Ground, you can split the Tactical Squads into two Combat Squads to capture more objectives.

Push Forwards: Equip a unit of Tactical Marines with a meltagun and the Sergeant an infernus pistol and go tankhunting, or give them a flamer and the Sergeant a power weapon and send them into the thick of the fighting. By putting them in a dedicated transport, you can get them to the frontline in no time at all, clearing the enemy off objectives and then seizing them in the name of the Emperor.

Charge!: Tactical Marines are deadly at close range, as they can rapid fire their boltguns twice up to 12", but they aren't slouches in assault either. Their Sergeant can be armed with a variety of nasty close combat weaponry, including power fists, allowing the unit to tackle any foe no matter how big. And, if a unit of Tactical Marines finds itself afflicted by the Red Thirst, this is doubly true - with Furious Charge the unit will have Strength and Initiative 5, and two attacks when they charge.

Watch out for:
Biting off more than you can chew: Tactical Squads are the most flexible troops in the game, so there's little they can't turn their hands to. Just be careful you don't ask too much of them - they'll give it a good go before they die heroically, but you'll wish you hadn't sent them in unsupported.


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Page 2 was simply the step by step painting section.

Anybody read Portuguese?

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241079

"Hello

This image is the last page of the March White Dwarf.

It's called the Tantalus.

Anyone know what this is?"

That's what it says?

Pretty funny, actually...

Neconilis wrote:


— Article by Andrew Kenrick & Nick Bayton

Tactical Marines are often mechanised, riding to war in fast-moving Rhinos or accompanied by heavily armed Razorbacks. Unlike other Space Marine Chapters, the Blood Angels often employ Land Raiders to transport their Tactical Marines to battle, providing these mainline warriors with an unparalleled level of protection and firepower.

^^Thanks for posting this; well it looks like Razors are in, but surely this can't mean that LR's can be dedicated tac transports can it?

Consider this. We already know that the new Blood Angels are dreadnought heavy. Giving tacticals Land Raiders would be the only way to squeeze them in with dreads filling up all your heavy and elite slots.

Talk about overkill on the Assault Transports...

Exactly!

Step One-Tear everything limb from limb.
Step Two-Drink Blood from limbs.
Step Three-Rinse off power armor and repeat.

OVERKILL!!


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Thanks NEconilis!!

Alpharius wrote:Anybody read Portuguese?

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241079

Did you see the Tantalus profile in that pic?

It's so blurry/fuzzy that it could just as easily be a tau barracuda.

...of course, if you squint hard enough, you can see the unbridled wrath of Sanguinius...

Either way, neat bit of rumor fuel.

It has a much lower profile than I thought it would.

It kind of looks closer to the Tempest Speeder than a 'flying raider drop pod' thing we were hearing about...

GitSmack wrote:It's so blurry/fuzzy that it could just as easily be a tau barracuda.

...of course, if you squint hard enough, you can see the unbridled wrath of Sanguinius...

Either way, neat bit of rumor fuel.

Or could it be an image of something like this

I love the look of that thing... one of the best pieces of cover art I've seen in awhile.

Yeah... it's hard to speculate the angle of the shot on that silhouette, but it does seem much sleeker than I would have expected.

I can hardly wait for the first real pics to start rolling in...

Yeah, I just thought that was the artist taking license with a Thunderhawk pic. I wouldn't be sorely disappointed, though, if that's ultimately what the Tantalus looks like.

Same, just like the strange heavy-landspeeder looking things in the first large pic in codex Space Wolves.

And here we were all thinking it was 'artistic license' being taken with either a Thunderhawk or a Stormbird!

(OK, yes, that was me!)

Neconilis wrote:
...Push Forwards: Equip a unit of Tactical Marines with a meltagun and the Sergeant an infernus pistol and go tankhunting, or give them a flamer and the Sergeant a power weapon and send them into the thick of the fighting. By putting them in a dedicated transport, you can get them to the frontline in no time at all, clearing the enemy off objectives and then seizing them in the name of the Emperor.

...

Wait; what's an Infernus Pistol?

Presumably a pistol with the melta rule and profile, at least in terms of strength and AP.

Presumably a Pistol sized melta, like Dante has had since he first got stats.

Jack

Alpharius wrote:And here we were all thinking it was 'artistic license' being taken with either a Thunderhawk or a Stormbird!

And here I was hoping Thunderbirds are Go!

Wasn't the librarian dread said to be the Flesh Tearers dread, a former librarian now encased inside a dread, but with no librarian psychic powers. Its just a named dread with no librarian like abilities, so doubtful that there is a specific model, just like Moriar...

TheRavenWolf wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
BorisBC

Dante: no new model, completely new rules, 4+ inv save, +1S power weapon, fearless 6" aura, up to 4 bonusattacks and a funny special rule: Get off my lawn!
Just kidding ^^ In truth it is 'Has seen it all': During deployment deepstiking, infiltrating or outflanking enemy reserves have to roll against Dante or have to be deployed in the deployment zone.

This means he has the ability to stop daemons deepstriking, think of all those bloodletters trailing across the board onto an enemy gunline.

IIRC, Daemons Deep Strike in during Movement Phases, not Deployment. Spore Mines do get placed by Deep Strike during Deployment, which could be what this rule refers to.