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George Spiggott wrote:@JHDD: Eh? Did I predict wrongly or don't you like what you read?

Hopefully yes & defintetely yes.

I will be muchly pissed if I have to further update my list of army woes with yet another army down the tubes.

As boneheaded as GW has been lately, I predict the end of SoB and the release of female space marines.

Those decisions would be about on par with current policy making and codex writing.

Does anyone think any of the new implementations will affect people with a full GK army? Im currently painting all my grey knights and dont want to waste my money.

Ok the way I see it is that odds are we are getting DE of GK next, there is no way around that. When we get GK the is going to hit the fan for SoB and Inquisitors players, due to:

1) needing to wait for a new codex books for each
2) SoB are going to become female SM (This is from a friend who "saw it in a 40k novel". I take this with a grain of salt, but it works. The Emperor had a biological daughter, essentially a female primarch, allowing for a female gene-seed. On top of that she is the primarch of the SoB.)
3) Inquisitors become an expansion book adding new unites to SM/GK/SoB/IG, but may or may not be able to be used stand alone. The one thing is that the unite transfer is only one way (as in you could not take Creed and vet squad and add them to a Inquisitors army.

Good things that my come of this:
Lots of new plastic
possibity of Deathwatch book
new units all around

Take this as you will, this is just guess work from a new guy.

Kervin wrote:2) SoB are going to become female SM (This is from a friend who "saw it in a 40k novel". I take this with a grain of salt, but it works. The Emperor had a biological daughter, essentially a female primarch, allowing for a female gene-seed. On top of that she is the primarch of the SoB.)

Sounds totally plausible and not in the least like he was making stuff up btw would you like to hear about a bridge I'm trying to sell?

Thamor wrote:Does anyone think any of the new implementations will affect people with a full GK army? Im currently painting all my grey knights and dont want to waste my money.

From what i've read here and elsewhere, full GK should be fine, it's full Inquisition that might get screwed. The "Inquisitors were overplayed" comment that appears every so often is the root of this, suggesting that with a new codex, you won't have an Inquisitor leading a host of Grey Knights. I'm sure I've seen it mentioned somewhere that there will definately be seperate books, and one of them will be Grey Knights (other obviously SoB).

The way I see things is having a fairly similar to now Grey Knight army, albeit with a few new units/options etc, and maybe having an Inquisitor as a unique elite choice, basically one per army, and likely not to have a massive retinue perhaps no more than 6, if that. All speculation of course!

I shelved my GKs when the websites started dropping boxes and codices. Didn't want to buy anything that might be useless to me 6 months down the line. I for one am hopeful for the next release being GKs, quite excited to see what'll happen with em

bhsman wrote:

Kervin wrote:2) SoB are going to become female SM (This is from a friend who "saw it in a 40k novel". I take this with a grain of salt, but it works. The Emperor had a biological daughter, essentially a female primarch, allowing for a female gene-seed. On top of that she is the primarch of the SoB.)

Sounds totally plausible and not in the least like he was making stuff up btw would you like to hear about a bridge I'm trying to sell?

I was just putting out there as a possible fluff out for GW to turn SoB into SM. I have even stated that, "I take this with a grain of salt." I do not like the personal attack.

Kervin wrote:
2) SoB are going to become female SM (This is from a friend who "saw it in a 40k novel". I take this with a grain of salt, but it works. The Emperor had a biological daughter, essentially a female primarch, allowing for a female gene-seed. On top of that she is the primarch of the SoB.)

Sisters of Battle won't get turned into female marines. It will never happen, and the idea that anyone is insinuating it would is stupid. There's no BL book that ever mentioned that, and it sounds like your buddy is just pulling your leg.

Brother SRM wrote:

Kervin wrote:
2) SoB are going to become female SM (This is from a friend who "saw it in a 40k novel". I take this with a grain of salt, but it works. The Emperor had a biological daughter, essentially a female primarch, allowing for a female gene-seed. On top of that she is the primarch of the SoB.)

Sisters of Battle won't get turned into female marines. It will never happen, and the idea that anyone is insinuating it would is stupid. There's no BL book that ever mentioned that, and it sounds like your buddy is just pulling your leg.

Let's hope that's all he's pulling!

Seriously - GW will NOT ever make female Space Marines.

(?)

Alpharius wrote:
Seriously - GW will NOT ever make female Space Marines.

(?)

Except in the past as a mistake, or if Inquisitor Profitus tells them to. As soon as that guy gets involved, you'll see greenstuff boobs sprouting all over GW studios.

No.

NEVER.
End of story.

Let female Space Marines go.

Female Space Marines again?



It always happens...

Kanluwen wrote:No.

NEVER.
End of story.

Let female Space Marines go.

What, you think that GW wouldn't sell it's fanbase up the river in the name of profit?

In a word?

Squats.

Look, they aren't going to do it, ever.

Because, (shhhhhh!), they kind of already have!

Get ready to have your mind blown!

They are called...


(wait for it!)


Sisters of Battle.

Sorry.

JohnHwangDD wrote:I will be muchly pissed if I have to further update my list of army woes with yet another army down the tubes.

I should stick up a photo of all my inquisition 'hangers on' (Inquisitors and retinues) that I have (about 40 of them IIRC). Then when the codex is redone and they aren't in it I could do a Youtube video of me jumping up and down on them.

Alpharius wrote:Look, they aren't going to do it, ever.

Because, (shhhhhh!), they kind of already have!

Get ready to have your mind blown!

They are called...


(wait for it!)


Sisters of Battle.

Sorry.

Except SoBs would seem to be getting some sort of hatchet treatment at the hands of GW's current batch of Codex writers. I eagerly await their declaration that SoB are really decedents of the Emperor, and have been the Sensei the whole time.

Kervin wrote:I was just putting out there as a possible fluff out for GW to turn SoB into SM. I have even stated that, "I take this with a grain of salt." I do not like the personal attack.

What you were putting out was something outlandish that you obviously hadn't thought through and without little backing up. Me poking fun was you getting off light.

bhsman wrote:What you were putting out was something outlandish that you obviously hadn't thought through and without little backing up. Me poking fun was you getting off light.

Translation: I am a donkey cave, and don't care that you were just trying to be helpful.

I didnt think there were any rules for DH troops in a SM army list as long as there are no librarians you just add the points but personally i cant see the point

Stephen Bond wrote:I didnt think there were any rules for DH troops in a SM army list as long as there are no librarians you just add the points but personally i cant see the point

The allies rule lets you take a certain amount of units (depending on the Force Organization spot it occupies) in Space Marine and Imperial Guard lists, unless you were referring to something else?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Translation: I am a donkey cave, and don't care that you were just trying to be helpful.

And by comparison your post adds even less to the discussion, as it only seeks to get back at me and not even provide speculation, from a second-hand source or otherwise.

Snikkyd wrote:Female Space Marines again?



It always happens...

Indeed. Moving this thread to dsciussions as I see neither news nor rumors.


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bhsman wrote:

Stephen Bond wrote:I didnt think there were any rules for DH troops in a SM army list as long as there are no librarians you just add the points but personally i cant see the point

The allies rule lets you take a certain amount of units (depending on the Force Organization spot it occupies) in Space Marine and Imperial Guard lists, unless you were referring to something else?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Translation: I am a donkey cave, and don't care that you were just trying to be helpful.

And by comparison your post adds even less to the discussion, as it only seeks to get back at me and not even provide speculation, from a second-hand source or otherwise.

True that. Everyone lets remember Dakka Rule #1: Be polite, or this thread will be closed.

JohnHwangDD wrote:What I haven't seen: What happens to the Inq. Stormies?

Personally, I think a special forces/rapid insertion/air cav concept for the GK codex would be an interesting one, and would have plenty of room for STs. So figure GKs in Stormravens and STs in Valks/Vends supported by teleporting Terminators, GK jetbikes, Land Speeders and some ground units in Rhinos, Razorbacks and Chimeras. Yeah, it'd be another flavor of SM, but I think there's a little bit of a niche there for them beyond just the daemon fighting. *shrug*

I'm calling salty shenanigans on the DE/GK debate.

Lets face some facts here...

DH/WH lines have been pulled to some extent. No new models have been seen and there has been very little talk or rules predictions about the dex.

DE on the other hand, still have their range in the stores. Rumours and confirmed sightings of models have occured across the globe, as have rumours and confirmations of codex content.

AFAIK both ranges are complete, but as it seems, GW are heavily leaning towards DE first.

As for the great Ordo Unification debate...

GW will have to add all three into one codex. Will this include SoB??? Not sure, but I wouldn't say no. Hell, if they didn't release a unified codex, I wouldn't be surprised if all three Ordo had their own dex released at the same time. Its a big project, but since WFB v8 would be released just prior to the next 40k big release, a big project would satisfy the 40k gamers.

IMO anyway.

radiohazard wrote:I'm calling salty shenanigans on the DE/GK debate.

AFAIK both ranges are complete, but as it seems, GW are heavily leaning towards DE first.

You seem to be contradicting yourself. How is GW leaning towards DE first when they are pulling Grey Knights and Sisters stuff from the web store? I would think this indicates that Grey Knights are being pushed out first.