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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 17:37:56
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Jackal wrote:The Catachan Barking Toad doesn't explode as such but realeses a toxin that kills anything within a square kilometer.
Even sealed power armour doesn't protect you
That was indded an article in a GW mag.
And about 5 years is also correct.
It was part 1 of thier creature feature.
The toad in there was actually the lesser barking toad, which was still a S10 AP1 pie plate.
Also, your correct on the mothod, which is why i said vapourised.
The normal barking toadk will ruin entire continents.
The tyrannic creature your talking about would be the "Slaver"
It was a up-turned squig with tenticles comming out of it.
Pretty much a lash prince that can make a unit shoot another friendly unit. (gave the an enemy unit for a whole turn)
That WD mag also included the hunting dogs, croctalids (?) carnosaur and megosaur and another one i think.
Ill have to dig it out later on.
I do have the rules printed out though from when it was a DL on GW's site.
For anyone that was interested, it was a 2 part feature.
2nd part had a few more in it like the colossus (zoat) and some weird ones.
also included charts and rules to make your own creatures.
Whoa. Honestly, I thought the Toad thing was a joke. C'mon people, thermonuclear toads, is this really a debate anymore?
I remember a creature that was the size of a freight train - was it the megosaur?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 17:50:11
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Sneaky Kommando
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moonshine wrote:yes but if the kraken got near the Braking toad, the Barking toad would kill it (and itself)
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't comparing the Barking Toad to anything on Fenris, because frankly there is nothing on Fenris that compares to it... save for the Warheads that are stashed within the Fang.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:01:06
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Canuck, the toad is no joke mate.
We used to include a 3rd army in our games with basic movement rules. (pretty much rage) that had no player using them.
Really did make it amusing when a toad nuked a unit of boyz or blew an IC apart lol.
but yes, the toad is real.
The thing you are calling a freight train is actually a male catachin devil.
They have a bad habbit of large growth that only really stops in death.
They also have alot of smaller ones known as devil spawn which follow them about.
But the big one (larger than a normal devil) is the alpha male of the devils.
Usually one per colony and they tend to have large crab like claws at the front instead of talons, which were described as being able to scythe through a leman russ.
The megosaur is bloody huge.
From the height and fluff described i would hazard a guess at near on 100 feet tall? (said it towered over the jungle canopies, which were 80 feet tall)
So yes, he is a big bastard, and also has a pretty nasty temper to go with it.
Hive fleets - At the start of an invasion the planet its self starts to warp as the spores land and start the initial stages.
These tend to plant new life (plant life) which constrict and strangle any other living plants or creatures.
As a result, you have things like the catachin man-eater and brain-leaf growing out of control.
Not only does it affect plant and wild life, it also causes heavy damage on any settlements as the plants grow through the plaststeel walls.
2nd stage is generally small animals begin to die as small tyrannic creatures hunt them.
this is where fluff suggests the devils were born.
Catachin has never been invaded as such though.
It has seen the 1st 2 stages of it, but its now being used as a hunting world.
Simply cells of stealers and lictors hunt down any living creatures they can.
Weather this is for biomass, DNA or any other means hasnt been answered by fluff though.
after sorting through some books and articles, it seems the kraken was also born as a tyrannic creature like the devils.
However, there isnt much into on them, so thats kind of hard to say any more on.
Old one eye has also been on Fenris, and killed off the scavengers who tried to capture him (was sealed in a block of ice)
However, it turned nasty as the ice couldnt sustain him and he broke free, killing them all and then vanishing (seems he has done this on atleast 5-6 worlds according to fluff)
What i did notice though, when he was captured on fenris it was a tracked truck they used to try and bring him back to thier settlement.
So tech or no tech, they have basic transportation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:16:11
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Old one eye was most defintely not on Fenris.
The tribesmen have longships and, at best, iron weapons.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:21:56
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Give me an hour or 2 purple, ill dig out and scan the article in and throw it on here.
Thats what didnt make any sense to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:24:14
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Better PM it to me...
Good idea not to clog up a thread.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:25:41
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Its in keeping though
We are talking about deathworlds.
This is a bit of fluff that relates to such a place.
However, it seems like Goto fluff so far.
Also dug out the previous nid dex, so flicking through that again since it mentions catachin alot in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:26:52
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Sneaky Kommando
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purplefood wrote:Old one eye was most defintely not on Fenris.
The tribesmen have longships and, at best, iron weapons.
Yeah, as far as i Know it was the Ultramarines, planet Calth where Old One Eye was frozen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:28:19
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Depending on how old the article is then it might be some of the 'heretic tomes' as it were
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:37:38
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Nagoth, that was in more recent ones.
The one imrefering to was in a WD article a long time ago, im sure it was before he actually had a model, but was around issue 170(?)
Ill keep digging till i find it and any other fluff on Dworlds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:39:38
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Then the article you're talking about is entirely superseded by the current one.
It would take a very long time to get to Fenris from Ultrmar in a warp capable ship let alone however Old One Eye gets about.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:43:19
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Jackal wrote:Canuck, the toad is no joke mate.
We used to include a 3rd army in our games with basic movement rules. (pretty much rage) that had no player using them.
Really did make it amusing when a toad nuked a unit of boyz or blew an IC apart lol.
but yes, the toad is real.
The thing you are calling a freight train is actually a male catachin devil.
They have a bad habbit of large growth that only really stops in death.
They also have alot of smaller ones known as devil spawn which follow them about.
But the big one (larger than a normal devil) is the alpha male of the devils.
Usually one per colony and they tend to have large crab like claws at the front instead of talons, which were described as being able to scythe through a leman russ.
The megosaur is bloody huge.
From the height and fluff described i would hazard a guess at near on 100 feet tall? (said it towered over the jungle canopies, which were 80 feet tall)
So yes, he is a big bastard, and also has a pretty nasty temper to go with it.
Hive fleets - At the start of an invasion the planet its self starts to warp as the spores land and start the initial stages.
These tend to plant new life (plant life) which constrict and strangle any other living plants or creatures.
As a result, you have things like the catachin man-eater and brain-leaf growing out of control.
Not only does it affect plant and wild life, it also causes heavy damage on any settlements as the plants grow through the plaststeel walls.
2nd stage is generally small animals begin to die as small tyrannic creatures hunt them.
this is where fluff suggests the devils were born.
Catachin has never been invaded as such though.
It has seen the 1st 2 stages of it, but its now being used as a hunting world.
Simply cells of stealers and lictors hunt down any living creatures they can.
Weather this is for biomass, DNA or any other means hasnt been answered by fluff though.
after sorting through some books and articles, it seems the kraken was also born as a tyrannic creature like the devils.
However, there isnt much into on them, so thats kind of hard to say any more on.
Old one eye has also been on Fenris, and killed off the scavengers who tried to capture him (was sealed in a block of ice)
However, it turned nasty as the ice couldnt sustain him and he broke free, killing them all and then vanishing (seems he has done this on atleast 5-6 worlds according to fluff)
What i did notice though, when he was captured on fenris it was a tracked truck they used to try and bring him back to thier settlement.
So tech or no tech, they have basic transportation.
Ha! Sounds like some good times in Jungle Fighting. That's kind of my point though. Fenris has big dogs. Whooptie-do. Every Catachan will tell you they don't sweat the big stuff. Thing about the Devils and Megasaurses is you can hear and see them coming.
It's the mosquitos that suck your brain out while you're sleeping you need to worry about....that and toads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 18:45:54
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Purple, thats the point.
He gets about through death by the seems of it.
Seems every time he dies he gets spawned yet again.
However, looking through just the new dex he has died multiple times allready.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 19:25:59
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Jackal wrote:Purple, thats the point.
He gets about through death by the seems of it.
Seems every time he dies he gets spawned yet again.
However, looking through just the new dex he has died multiple times allready.
That's fine but there isn't a chance in hell he would be spawned on Fenris without them knowing...
The SW don't even let other IoM forces near Fenris.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 19:56:48
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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I'm calling this one for catachan. Half the population dies within a month or so of birth. Half of the survivers don't make it to the age of ten. And plenty more after that die too.
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grendel083 wrote:"Dis is Oddboy to BigBird, come in over."
"BigBird 'ere, go ahead, over."
"WAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!! over"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 20:33:11
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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purplefood wrote:Jackal wrote:Purple, thats the point.
He gets about through death by the seems of it.
Seems every time he dies he gets spawned yet again.
However, looking through just the new dex he has died multiple times allready.
That's fine but there isn't a chance in hell he would be spawned on Fenris without them knowing...
The SW don't even let other IoM forces near Fenris.
Old One Eye's fluff has been changed to fit with Tyranid fluffit has never been on Fenris. Old One Eye was part of Hive Fleet Behemoth, the Hive Fleet that attacked Ultramar (which is literally on the other side of the galaxy from Fenris).
I think the main difference between Fenris and Catachan is that although the world and the life on it are dangerous to life on both, on Fenris you also have people trying to kill you. Catachan is a unified world properly in the IoM, Fenris however is tribal world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 20:37:05
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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BluntmanDC wrote:purplefood wrote:Jackal wrote:Purple, thats the point.
He gets about through death by the seems of it.
Seems every time he dies he gets spawned yet again.
However, looking through just the new dex he has died multiple times allready.
That's fine but there isn't a chance in hell he would be spawned on Fenris without them knowing...
The SW don't even let other IoM forces near Fenris.
I think the main difference between Fenris and Catachan is that although the world and the life on it are dangerous to life on both, on Fenris you also have people trying to kill you. Catachan is a unified world properly in the IoM, Fenris however is tribal world.
People trying to kill you isn't a reason to classify it as a death world. There's plenty of cold planets with big animals around like Fenris that aren't classified as Death Worlds. Only Fenris' excessive plate tectonnics gets it past the line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 20:41:05
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Sneaky Kommando
Atlanta
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BluntmanDC wrote:
I think the main difference between Fenris and Catachan is that although the world and the life on it are dangerous to life on both, on Fenris you also have people trying to kill you. Catachan is a unified world properly in the IoM, Fenris however is tribal world.
I completely agree with this statement, the people of Fenris are very hostile to strangers. They are an extremely superstitious people and they could easily see an off worlder as a bad omen or a demon.
The extent of this was shown in the beginning of "Prospero Burns." The native fenrisians even attacked a fully armored Spacewolf believing him to be a demon.
That being said though, the Off-worlder in "Prospero Burns" did survive... and I do not believe anyone thrown at Catachan in a similar fashion would last 5 mins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 20:45:23
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Bottle the toads up and drop them on worlds like bombs! Oh wait, we just lost an entire cruiser...
However, my vote goes to Catachan.
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 20:46:39
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Footsloggin wrote:Bottle the toads up and drop them on worlds like bombs! Oh wait, we just lost an entire cruiser...
However, my vote goes to Catachan.
Ya, I'll let you do the Toad-bottling. Good luck with that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 21:18:33
Subject: Re:Catachan or Fenris ?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
Ye Olde North State
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lol. Come here li'l toady... Come on...
BOOM.
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grendel083 wrote:"Dis is Oddboy to BigBird, come in over."
"BigBird 'ere, go ahead, over."
"WAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!! over"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 21:46:40
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Footsloggin wrote:Bottle the toads up and drop them on worlds like bombs! Oh wait, we just lost an entire cruiser...
However, my vote goes to Catachan.
Ya, I'll let you do the Toad-bottling. Good luck with that.
Nah, we'll send the conscripts, I mean, after all, at least one has to come back on such a lethal deathworld...
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 22:28:44
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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@Warboss: Where are the deadly trees on Fenris? BTW, if something can't try and kill you, it isn't really classed as deadly.
BTW, we do have man-eating trees here in Australia.
loota boy wrote:I'm calling this one for catachan. Half the population dies within a month or so of birth. Half of the survivers don't make it to the age of ten. And plenty more after that die too.
And tht's with the advanced technology at hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 23:23:52
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Emperors Faithful wrote:@Warboss: Where are the deadly trees on Fenris? BTW, if something can't try and kill you, it isn't really classed as deadly.
BTW, we do have man-eating trees here in Australia.
loota boy wrote:I'm calling this one for catachan. Half the population dies within a month or so of birth. Half of the survivers don't make it to the age of ten. And plenty more after that die too.
And tht's with the advanced technology at hand.
Exactly. I don't know what the survival rate is on fenris, but there, you can see the dangers comming. In catachan, you just pray that the bugs ignore you, try not to touch anything, and just hope beyond hope that you don't catch eyerot or some sort of terrible disease. And what are these man-eating trees in australia? We just might have to classify your continent as a death continant..
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grendel083 wrote:"Dis is Oddboy to BigBird, come in over."
"BigBird 'ere, go ahead, over."
"WAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!! over"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 23:28:39
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Australia is definately a Death-Continent. Everyone knows Kangaroos just go around punching people in the face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 23:41:31
Subject: Re:Catachan or Fenris ?
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Don't forget the Southern Cassowary.
It may look colourful and harmless but its known to have killed and disect people who piss it off with its talons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 23:58:45
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Ok, lets get back on topic people
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/31 00:05:27
Subject: Re:Catachan or Fenris ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/31 00:05:59
Subject: Catachan or Fenris ?
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Lexicanicum is not allways right, that might have just been one space wolf fans opinion. You can only prove that statement of you find where it says that in some OFFICIAL fluff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/31 00:13:23
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moonshine wrote:Lexicanicum is not allways right, that might have just been one space wolf fans opinion. You can only prove that statement of you find where it says that in some OFFICIAL fluff
I agree.
but the article is there for anyone to read it.
Mind you some of the sources are old as well so could be out of date with the modern fluff.
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