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**Cypher's Sword**

Testify wrote:
xttz wrote:
Cypher's Sword wrote:
xttz wrote:All this bitching about who gets what psychic powers is silly. Not only do the new rules still allow you to use your old 'fluffy' powers from the codex, but we also know that any new codex will come written with the new system in mind. An Eldar revamp can't be *that* far away, and I have no doubt they'll get more than enough powers to make them FOTM again.

In other news, has anyone seen any recent details on changes to Instant Death? This has been the subject of many previous rumours, and my 'nids will cry if this edition still doesn't let them beat grey knights.

what ARE the changes to instant death xttz? please tell.

I'm asking if anyone has seen any changes to ID from the myriad of different rumour threads this week. It's very possible I missed something skipping through 40+ pages of random notes!

Pretty sure the rumour mill is saying that ID causes an additional wound for every point above double strength.
For example, Strength 8 vs T4 will cause 2 wounds, Strength 9 vs T4 will cause 3 wounds, etc.

OMG if thats true then my eldar ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE!

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Testify wrote:
Cypher's Sword wrote:
the one reason I haven't started playing fantasy is because of the magic, I need to hit those enemies with a fireball because their weak against fire, so I roll and I get a fire buff for one of my units......terrific.

Signature spell - fireball.

The only people who hate new WHF are people who played older editions...anyone who's new to it likes it. Hell I love WHF, including the magic phase. If you don't like magic, don't play a fantasy game with elves and goblins and vampires...
Also don't base the implementation of a feature based solely on a single chart. Eldar at present dominate physcicly, we have no reason to believe that GW will change that. And unless I'm mistaken, of the playable races in 40k, humans are the second most psychicly capable. Which would you prefer, that humans could cast the eldar's top-level spells, or that eldar had their own set of spells?

its not that I don't like magic, its that I don't like that you randomly get a spell, I messes with my game plan, or does it not do that anymore and I should finish my woodelves?

**xttz**

Totalwar1402 wrote:Is the rulebook actually on sale in the UK from the 23rd of June? Or is it only officially "revealed" on the 23rd.

On sale from the 30th. I'm sure there will be preview copies in stores this weekend. All we need is a ninja with a pocket photocopier...

**Robbietobbie**

Therion wrote:

tesla weapons get an additional hit when throwing a 6 on the to-hit throws

WTF is this? Tesla weapons in the Necron codex give an additional two hits if you roll a 6 to hit, for a total of 3 hits. They decided to nerf them in the new rulebook?

That's what I was wondering too

**motyak**

I promised myself I wouldn't, but I may get the gamers edition...its so purty...

**Cyrax**

Therion wrote:
tesla weapons get an additional hit when throwing a 6 on the to-hit throws

WTF is this? Tesla weapons in the Necron codex give an additional two hits if you roll a 6 to hit, for a total of 3 hits. They decided to nerf them in the new rulebook?

Probably he meant tesla weapons retaining their ability during the snapshot.

**kenzosan**

Robbietobbie wrote:
Therion wrote:

tesla weapons get an additional hit when throwing a 6 on the to-hit throws

WTF is this? Tesla weapons in the Necron codex give an additional two hits if you roll a 6 to hit, for a total of 3 hits. They decided to nerf them in the new rulebook?

That's what I was wondering too

Is there something I'm missing? How exactly is it worded because my friend has only given me 1 extra wound on a 6.

**Just Dave**

Robbietobbie wrote:
Therion wrote:

tesla weapons get an additional hit when throwing a 6 on the to-hit throws

WTF is this? Tesla weapons in the Necron codex give an additional two hits if you roll a 6 to hit, for a total of 3 hits. They decided to nerf them in the new rulebook?

That's what I was wondering too

Probably just incorrect interpretation and/or the rumour-monger doesn't play Necrons. I really, really wouldn't get worked up about this just yet.

**Maelstrom808**

kenzosan wrote:
Robbietobbie wrote:
Therion wrote:

tesla weapons get an additional hit when throwing a 6 on the to-hit throws

WTF is this? Tesla weapons in the Necron codex give an additional two hits if you roll a 6 to hit, for a total of 3 hits. They decided to nerf them in the new rulebook?

That's what I was wondering too

Is there something I'm missing? How exactly is it worded because my friend has only given me 1 extra wound on a 6.

Yeah it's currently 2 additional hits on a 6 for a total of 3. I hope that it's just a typo, he's got a lot of mistakes in that list.

**kenzosan**

Since this is the rumor thread, can anyone tell me why I was told to wait for 6th before I commit to Heat Lances over Blasters? Something about a change to melta, but I haven't seen anything.

**Testify**

Sources are sources because of their closeness to information, not for their typing reliability

don't hang up on it too much.
Special trumps general anyway. Even if the core rulebook said Tesla added an additional hit on a 6, the 'cron codex still says to add 2, so you do.

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kenzosan wrote:Since this is the rumor thread, can anyone tell me why I was told to wait for 6th before I commit to Heat Lances over Blasters? Something about a change to melta, but I haven't seen anything.

Anything could change. We discuss what information we have, but there could be something huge on the horizen.
I wouldn't wait personally. I'm buying a pack of Grey Knight Terminators when I get paid, rulebook be damned.

**Cyrax**

Here is the original rumor from the warseer:

Gauss weapons remove a hull point on a hit of a 6, tesla works with the overwatch

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/750/455813.page#4423130

**Byte**

Gamers edtion for me!

**kenzosan**

Testify wrote:Sources are sources because of their closeness to information, not for their typing reliability don't hang up on it too much.
Special trumps general anyway. Even if the core rulebook said Tesla added an additional hit on a 6, the 'cron codex still says to add 2, so you do.

kenzosan wrote:Since this is the rumor thread, can anyone tell me why I was told to wait for 6th before I commit to Heat Lances over Blasters? Something about a change to melta, but I haven't seen anything.

Anything could change. We discuss what information we have, but there could be something huge on the horizen.
I wouldn't wait personally. I'm buying a pack of Grey Knight Terminators when I get paid, rulebook be damned.

Well it was just weird. The way the advice was given it sounded like there was actual rumors about melta out there.

**Slarg232**

Hmmm... if chaos gets a new book, i sort of want. Will have to wait and see.....

**Ravenous D**

hmm, so GW did what I didnt expect, generally its not wise to make your top selling product more like your worse selling product... Its like Mcdonalds making the big mac more like the mcfish to encourage more mcfish sales.

6th edition is the big mac mcfish, it better taste good or I predict Warmachine will be the top selling game this year.

**kenzosan**

Ravenous D wrote:hmm, so GW did what I didnt expect, generally its not wise to make your top selling product more like your worse selling product... Its like Mcdonalds making the big mac more like the mcfish to encourage more mcfish sales.

6th edition is the big mac mcfish, it better taste good or I predict Warmachine will be the top selling game this year.

in what ways do you feel that marines got nerfed? Lets be real here, all chapters aside, Marines are still looking like the top dogs. The chapters were only designed for 2 reason, options so your not all making vanilla and to make money. These new rules don't change that in anyway.

**Ravenous D**

Say wha? I didnt say marines got nerfed, lay off the crack. I was refering to the introduction of more fantasy rules.

**kenzosan**

Ravenous D wrote:Say wha? I didnt say marines got nerfed, lay off the crack. I was refering to the introduction of more fantasy rules.

I see, I thought you were saying Marines when you said top "selling product" not 40k as a whole.

**Testify**

WHF is an awesome game, 40k could learn a lot from it.

**Crazyterran**

Well, since everything is a conspiracy to make Xenos players cry:

I've got these nifty tinfoil hats. Anyone want some?

**Cypher's Sword**

Crazyterran wrote:Well, since everything is a conspiracy to make Xenos players cry:

I've got these nifty tinfoil hats. Anyone want some?

.....................................................yes

**Nightbringer's Chosen**

My Scarabs wonder how Beasts will work with the new charge rules.

**kenzosan**

Cypher's Sword wrote:
Crazyterran wrote:Well, since everything is a conspiracy to make Xenos players cry:

I've got these nifty tinfoil hats. Anyone want some?

.....................................................yes

already got mine

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Have to ask why a Soul Grinder gets 4 hull points and not a Defiler? Ghost arc's too, but none of the DE or Eldar transports? It's like, no one wants the elves to succeed

**junk**

I can't help it, I'm really excited about everything that I'm seeing so far. My problems with 5th notwithstanding, I'm just excited for all the 'cinematic' elements. I spend so much time and money on building and painting these little bastards that I feel cheated when the game rule doesn't sync up with what's happening on the battlefield, like I might as well have been proxying everything using gummy bears and homeys.

**insaniak**

alarmingrick wrote:
pretre wrote:
alarmingrick wrote:Okay, I'm going with a stupid question.
How can IG suddenly get something general (Psychic powers) and their 'Dex doesn't have it(specific)?

They have an HQ Psyker...

Right, and the codex tells us what his powers are.

It's not really any different to all Jump Infantry in 5th gaining the Deep Strike rule without having it in their army list entries.

I would assume that the new psychic rules will cover Psykers as a whole, rather than specific psykers from each list.

**Rayvon**

Quite inetresting seeing how wound up people can get about rules they dont really know anything about yet.

We cannot really make anything but assumptions from what little we have been told.

**kenzosan**

Rayvon wrote:Quite inetresting seeing how wound up people can get about rules they dont really know anything about yet.

We cannot really make anything but assumptions from what little we have been told.

If your gonna report rumors and only put up partial information that shows massive buffs to everyone but a few armies, you're gonna get flak. People are very defensive of their armies because they spend a lot of money on them.

**Fishboy**

My Eldar are looking awesome right now with the rumors. Dire avengers with snap fire and guide paired up with bladestorm...hmmmm

Sniper can pick a model if they roll 6. If rend is still in there my Eldar snipers just got sweet hehe. It also looks like Pinning is back in so my eldar missle launchers got good again.

Even my Haemonculus sniper rifle that causes instant death got VERY good hehe.

**Noisy_Marine**

Testify wrote:WHF is an awesome game, 40k could learn a lot from it.

Yeah I guess if you like magic spells that can wipe out whole units and fielding 40+ models in a unit it's an awesome game.

I like magic in my fantasy settings, but there is a point where it becomes too powerful.

**Formosa**

kenzosan wrote:
Rayvon wrote:Quite inetresting seeing how wound up people can get about rules they dont really know anything about yet.

We cannot really make anything but assumptions from what little we have been told.

If your gonna report rumors and only put up partial information that shows massive buffs to everyone but a few armies, you're gonna get flak. People are very defensive of their armies because they spend a lot of money on them.

very well put point

on this eldar Divination thing people keep drumming on about, Eldar are the masters of such powers... tis why they have guide, fortune, doom, eldrads re-deploy etc.
i cant see these new powers having anything like this, not that i wouldnt love to have fortune on my TH/SS termies or guide on my Ravenwing attack sqauds.

Now i do agree that eldar should have more acess to the other ones and as someone pointed out maybe chaos will be getting god specific ones too