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 Irbis wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Inso wrote:
Demiurg are aliens. Squats are abhumans.

Extensive, accelerated genetic modification undertaken to survive the loss of the reproductive base. Abhuman -> alien.

Done, next customer please.

Okay, and why exactly GW should bend past fluff into a pretzel to justify this in the first place?

Squats were tough, technologically advanced, proud race that agreed to stand with Imperium itself as equals. Why they would agree to play some low-ladder lackeys for upstarts with vastly inferior tech base, population, and incompatible ideology, again?

Demiurge have a loose alliance with the Tau. Perhaps they just like being the big fish in a small pond.

I'd much rather the Demiurg be Demiurgs and the Squats be Squats.

Could be amusing to see how they would interact in fluff.

No need for a retcon at all, squats great engineers, so build huge void shield and cover entire home worlds with it, just in time to escape annhilation. boom no need to retcon and explains why they are only being seen again now! Could even have them dangerously teleport there entire home worlds some are lost but most make it...........................ohhhhhh now chaos squats becomes an option see!!!! story makes sense and you can have 2 new factions from 1 source.

Oh man bullgryns in 40k must have it!!!!!!!

That's pretty funny. I had an old fantasy hunchback dwarf guy with an ork flamer as a hired gun character in my Necromunda campaigns for years. Good times.

I'll have to see if I can find a photo of him.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
See my sig for more.

I have sigs turned off.

Always remember that GW lies! https://imgur.com/6qg2Eej https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/266256350436017/

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
Catgirls?

OK, now I'm interested. If they were cute enough, I could buy an army of them!

Not much on them from what I can tell.

This is the larger article: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Felinid (NSFW, the pictures at the bottom mostly)
This just confirms that they're in the fluff, and the name of their homeworld. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Felinid

Army wise? put cat tails on your IG? ears if they don't have helmets?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
See my sig for more.

I have sigs turned off.

Always remember that GW lies! https://imgur.com/6qg2Eej https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/266256350436017/

I'm pretty sure that was a joke at the end. The main aim of the video was to tease the Thousand Sons stuff.
Its not a lie if it was never serious to begin with.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I'm pretty sure that was a joke at the end.

The screenshot from GW's official facebook team was a joke?
It doesn't sound like a joke.

The meta-joke is that Sisters players are so easily triggered.

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Did someone in this thread seriously and unironically say they'd never bring back Squats because it would require a massive Retcon?

... I mean... You have seen the Primaris Release, yes?

It isn't even a massive retcon. The Squats were literally never killed off. Jervis Johnson made one post in 2004 about the design team killing them off. A statement never followed up on in any official material. The closest you got was a tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan shown close to the galactic center in Codex: Tyranids, which was then revised in the subsequent edition, probably because somebody figured out how silly it was to massively disrupt the galactic map for 40K just to play an elaborate prank on Squat aficionados, lol. The current map of the Tyranid advance no longer covers a significant portion of where the Squat Homeworlds would be.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Retcons overall are pretty gakky writing.

As opposed to the gakky writing that was killing them off in the first place by suggesting a tendril of Leviathan just happened to eat all the Squat Homeworlds? Mind you, this was never actually written. Just suggested by Jervis Johnson at some point on a web forum.

I hope you've been doing your yoga and staying limber, because you're really stretching.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I'm pretty sure that was a joke at the end.

The screenshot from GW's official facebook team was a joke?
It doesn't sound like a joke.

I think you haven't been paying close enough attention to the tone they use on their social media these days. If anything, this video demonstrates that they enjoy making cheeky jokes and nods to "Games Workshop memes." I mean, the video is literally called "Reset the Clock" and features haphazardly arrayed cheap wall clocks with single push-pinned labels underneath them supposedly counting down when we get a plastic Thunderhawk Kit.

Are you going to suggest that Games Workshop lied to us about those clocks too, when that wall is visible in a subsequent video and the clocks aren't there anymore? Come on, lol. The Plastic Sisters being in the giant bin was clearly a joke from the start. Maybe you didn't think it was funny, but it was still very obviously a joke.

 Not-not-kenny wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
I think the biggest reason for not getting a Squat army is that GW can't copyright 'Squat'and I can't think of any seudo-latin name they could come up with to call the army.

You mean like Homo Rotundus?

Adeptus Rotundus? Rotundus Militarum? Astra Rotundatorum?

 StygianBeach wrote:

It is a shame comments are disabled on it though.

LOL. GW is way too smart to allow YouTube a chance to comment on their videos.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
If anything, this video demonstrates that they enjoy making cheeky jokes and nods to "Games Workshop memes." I mean, the video is literally called "Reset the Clock" and features haphazardly arrayed cheap wall clocks with single push-pinned labels underneath them supposedly counting down when we get a plastic Thunderhawk Kit.

Yeah, here it's very obvious that this is a joke. Not in any of the other examples.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The Plastic Sisters being in the giant bin was clearly a joke from the start.

Not only it wasn't obvious, but, more importantly, it was extremely clear from the reactions of the community that many people didn't take it as a joke. Yet they didn't take the time to clarify. And when asked about it, they didn't say “It was a joke”, they say “We didn't say Sisters of Battle, just Sisters”, when they actually said “Sisters of Battle”.
I don't know what you need…

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
it was extremely clear from the reactions of the community that many people didn't take it as a joke.

I don't feel like the well-documented lack of a sense of humor from the Sisters of Battle community precludes the idea of it being a joke. Even bad jokes, misunderstood jokes, or poorly received jokes are still jokes.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
it was extremely clear from the reactions of the community that many people didn't take it as a joke.

I don't feel like the well-documented lack of a sense of humor from the Sisters of Battle community precludes the idea of it being a joke. Even bad jokes, misunderstood jokes, or poorly received jokes are still jokes.

GW's Sisters jokes are not bad, not misunderstood, nor poorly-received by the overwhelming majority of GW's player base. Recall that there are only a couple active Sisters players that GW can still see are out there, so poking fun at them isn't a problem for GW. GW knows they aren't losing any money over these jibes so it's just not a problem.

That said, it'd be good if the Sisters players could learn to take a joke.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
it was extremely clear from the reactions of the community that many people didn't take it as a joke.

I don't feel like the well-documented lack of a sense of humor from the Sisters of Battle community precludes the idea of it being a joke. Even bad jokes, misunderstood jokes, or poorly received jokes are still jokes.

GW's Sisters jokes are not bad, not misunderstood, nor poorly-received by the overwhelming majority of GW's player base. Recall that there are only a couple active Sisters players that GW can still see are out there, so poking fun at them isn't a problem for GW. GW knows they aren't losing any money over these jibes so it's just not a problem.

That said, it'd be good if the Sisters players could learn to take a joke.

A game played with little chunks of plastic (or metal, in SoB's case) is serious business.

It is a funny video and people need to lighten the feth up. Technically SoB already got three plastic Sisters models. Obviously not what they were looking for. But honestly, GW isn't going to sit on Sisters forever. Who knows, maybe they will get a big release later in the year.

Racerguy180 wrote:
First the Squat them, then the release Kharadrons, now in backline they've got a proper Squat.

WTF GW, o wait they were too lazy to work on space dwarves but had enuff ideas to make space elves, space demons, militant space nuns and space everything else work.

As funny as that video was, it brings back those lovely memories when gw said fu#k off you're not getting anymore models while everything else went forward (except maybe plastic sisters).

They lost my $ for almost 25 years and I finally got tired of waiting when 8th hit and reminded me how much I love their miniatures & the game.

I will be pre-ordering this as soon as possible and hopefully it'll make them reconsider un-squatting my badass little dudes. o and maybe give a little love to the Sororitas.

Wow, this post is just all over the place. So are you happy or not?

 Byte wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
First the Squat them, then the release Kharadrons, now in backline they've got a proper Squat.

WTF GW, o wait they were too lazy to work on space dwarves but had enuff ideas to make space elves, space demons, militant space nuns and space everything else work.

As funny as that video was, it brings back those lovely memories when gw said fu#k off you're not getting anymore models while everything else went forward (except maybe plastic sisters).

They lost my $ for almost 25 years and I finally got tired of waiting when 8th hit and reminded me how much I love their miniatures & the game.

I will be pre-ordering this as soon as possible and hopefully it'll make them reconsider un-squatting my badass little dudes. o and maybe give a little love to the Sororitas.

Wow, this post is just all over the place. So are you happy or not?

50/50

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I don't feel like the well-documented lack of a sense of humor from the Sisters of Battle community

There is no such “well-documented lack of a sense of humor”.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Even bad jokes, misunderstood jokes, or poorly received jokes are still jokes.

So I guess making jokes that are widely misunderstood by the community (at large, not just Sisters of Battle player) as being an actual announcement, due to the fact that the “joke” consist entirely in announcing that you are going to release a long awaited product, is a good idea then. And when asked later about it, them not saying that it was a joke that was misunderstood but rather saying that “they just said Sisters, not Sisters of Battle”, was… also somehow a joke, is that it?
Man, I guess everything is a joke.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
See my sig for more.

I have sigs turned off.

Always remember that GW lies! https://imgur.com/6qg2Eej https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/266256350436017/

That Facebook response is wrong, but the Magnus video came out before Celestine came out, so they didn’t lie. Plastic sisters were released after they said in the video. Just not as many as people wanted.

 Irbis wrote:

Okay, and why exactly GW should bend past fluff into a pretzel to justify this in the first place?

Because they can and, in practical terms, it costs them nothing.

It's also thematically more appropriate than just pretending the Nid incident didn't happen and the Squats were there all along, just invisible.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I don't feel like the well-documented lack of a sense of humor from the Sisters of Battle community

There is no such “well-documented lack of a sense of humor”.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Even bad jokes, misunderstood jokes, or poorly received jokes are still jokes.

So I guess making jokes that are widely misunderstood by the community (at large, not just Sisters of Battle player) as being an actual announcement, due to the fact that the “joke” consist entirely in announcing that you are going to release a long awaited product, is a good idea then. And when asked later about it, them not saying that it was a joke that was misunderstood but rather saying that “they just said Sisters, not Sisters of Battle”, was… also somehow a joke, is that it?
Man, I guess everything is a joke.

This post is a document that well, proves the lack of sense of humour point.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

Okay, and why exactly GW should bend past fluff into a pretzel to justify this in the first place?

Because they can and, in practical terms, it costs them nothing.

It's also thematically more appropriate than just pretending the Nid incident didn't happen and the Squats were there all along, just invisible.

The Tyranid incident didn't happen. It was a throwaway comment by one of the designers and if they wanted Squats to appear in greater numbers in to the WH40k universe it would be simple... Squat transportation vessel emerges from the warp. They thought they were in there for a few hours but they had been in there a thousand years... it is that simple.

As an aside, isn't it great when you start a topic about 'Squats coming back" and most of it is filled with completely unrelated moaning about plastic Sobs and how humourless it all is (and yes, I realise the irony of that last comment ).

I'm happy that there is a Squat returning to GW in whatever form that takes. It is an acknowledgement that the race is still there.

 Dysartes wrote:
Removing the throwaway "they got eaten by the Nids" thing would be fine. It was only done as an excuse to try to shut people up, and (subject to checking the latest Nids book), I doubt it is even mentioned in anything currently in print.

The only thing close to a canon mention of the "eaten by Tyranids" excuse is on the Black Library reprint of Ian Watson's Inquisitor/Draco; that added a bookend of two Inquisitors reviewing the text of the novel (as if it were a recently-recovered diary) and saying of the Squat character "heir line was cut short by the hive fleets" or something to that effect. That's in a short-lived reprint of a novel first written in 1990 in 1st edition; a reprint itself now about ten years old. Frankly, they could just start writing Squats back in as if they'd always been there, not doing much (like how Necrons and Tau had suddenly always been there) and it wouldn't be a problem.

(post title edited because Dakkadakka thinks three exclamation marks are a sign of madness - or at least spam).

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I don't feel like the well-documented lack of a sense of humor from the Sisters of Battle community

There is no such “well-documented lack of a sense of humor”.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Even bad jokes, misunderstood jokes, or poorly received jokes are still jokes.

So I guess making jokes that are widely misunderstood by the community (at large, not just Sisters of Battle player) as being an actual announcement, due to the fact that the “joke” consist entirely in announcing that you are going to release a long awaited product, is a good idea then. And when asked later about it, them not saying that it was a joke that was misunderstood but rather saying that “they just said Sisters, not Sisters of Battle”, was… also somehow a joke, is that it?
Man, I guess everything is a joke.

mfw someone denying the well-documented lack of a sense of humour displays a documentable lack of a sense of humour.

Any mention of "sisters" at this point by GW is a joke. Almost any mention of Squats, post-squatting, was basically a joke, too.

To make it clear:

Sisters of Battle are still an army. Go out and buy them if you want to play them.

Plastic Sisters of Battle may happen one day. Not today, and not tomorrow, but maybe. That's so obvious that the idea held close by some, that their plastic release is imminent (or, even more hilariously, that GW are somehow obligated to release plastic sisters or that the players deserve them) to the point of appearing in fevered dreams, is hilarious due to the frenzy even the slightest rumour can cause.

Squats, as an army, are not coming back.

Squats, as a race, never really went away. They existed, and nobody has suggested that the ENTIRE race somehow *poofed* out of existence. Just their homeworlds, and therefore their ability to form an army.

The appearance of a single Squat bounty hunter is no extraordinary recognition of anything other than the idea that whatever Squats left after the squatting are probably still functional members of the imperium. It is not indicative of ANY major fluff change, nor is it a "hint" of their playable army making its way back to tabletops.

To summarise:

This is just an abhuman bounty hunter with a funny video to advertise its release.

Sisters are still a legitimate army. Sisters players are funny.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

The primaris still isn't the same as "this group of abhumans are suddenly no longer near extinct and have the ability to field in force with power armor and heavy vehicles with no interference from the administratum or the admech because reasons"

Space Elves to Craft World Eldar. Went from PG-13 space pirates to martial arts monks...oh ya and they are a dying race, just ignore all those Guardians on the board.

Cawl just came out of left filed to change 40K history.

Tyranids and Genestealers weren't originally linked.

Dark Eldar show up like Buffy's little sister Dawn.

40K is always in flux. Some of the big weird retcons might have happened before you started playing (were born), but they still happened and we all lived through it.

Not finding one joke/style of joke funny is not the same thing as lacking a sense of humour, but of course all the troll-marketing fans know that fine well, it just suits them to pretend otherwise.

Nah bruv, it is funny, and constantly calling the GW community guys 'trolls' 'cause Sisters players can't handle a joke about the Sisters is getting quite silly.

Sisters players continually show a lack of sense of humour. I've only ever seen them complain, either about the things they don't have, or the things they get whenever something new (usually rules) comes out.

I mean even them having to "share" the Witch Hunters book was enough for endless complaints.

I still think its possible to see these abhuman squats rolled into AM. Us guard commanders haven't gotten a new kit in awhile and ( ducks behind ammo crate) it would be very easy to sneak in an a squat vengeance squad or some such nonsense into the guard codex. Would it be like the old squat army? No way, but back then even Guard had jet bikes.

Yeah but as what though? What niche could they fill?

Ok, for the record. An engineer squad.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah but as what though? What niche could they fill?

Heavy infantry, I guess? Basically tanky objective holders, who just won't budge and can take a beating while dishing out some nasty damage at short to medium range.
I don't think there are that many 3+ saves on infantry in a pure IG army.