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CT GAMER wrote:

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:

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CT GAMER wrote:

Baragash wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/10/exclusive-painted-warpath-forgefather.html



Much, much better colour scheme.

WOW CT, they look exactly the same guy... Mantic is probably stealing that ideia too, you know, gunslingers shooting with 2 guns are a very orginal ideia. Yeha, Mantic now is stealing IP from PP too. At least now they are not a "GW copy" anymore...

Maybe take a deep breathe?

It was a simple observation that both have the same tailor. Blue/brass/brown in the same locations, both with two guns, etc.

it was an observation that I found amusing. Nothign was implied, so maybe relax just a tad?

Toy Soldiers are s3rious buisn3ss111

Sorry CT, i was joking there too... i just forgot the " " in the end.

I understood your observation, and it was a joke with it. Reading it now i can see how "rant" it looked at the end. lol

Not intended

(edited some spelling issues)

This does more look like this Gamezone miniature, which is not SciFi at all:


... or this one by Avatars of War:

Kroothawk wrote:
This does more look like this Gamezone miniature, which is not SciFi at all:


... or this one by Avatars of War:

In pose only. The armor looks sci-fi, almost gears of war-ish. Niether of the others have a magma-hammer slung over thier shoulders.

There's only so many ways for things with two hands to hold two guns.

In other words, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!

Pictures of the plastic Steel Warriors have been posted on Mantic's blog: link.

I'm not impressed. If they screw up the Corporation too, I'm giving up on the company completely.

I wouldn't mind having a squad of those. An army of them would look kinda boring.

The website says...

As you can see from the photos we think the Forge Father models look fantastic – and with all the upgrades and new releases coming in the coming weeks they will make an unbelievably cool force. For those of you who worry about the legs (and aren’t convinced by the photos!) there are many ways you will be able to build your army with only sci-fi legs.

I'm not exactly sure what that statement means in the context of the miniatures pictured below whose legs look rather fantasy to me. Not terribly impressed now, but final judgement will be withheld until we I see the sprues.

lord_blackfang wrote:I wouldn't mind having a squad of those. An army of them would look kinda boring.

My thoughts exactly.

Oh gawd I just noticed how the gun melds with the shoulder on the 5 clone troopers in the back row.

If I wanted to do a Squat counts-as army or if Warpath is interesting enough to inspire me to do Forgefathers, I wouldn't hate those models, but they're not high quality and I would expect them to be priced to reflect that.

As I feared the difference between the restic models and those plastic ones is considerable if not as large as with the Marauders. I need to see the sprues/better pictures to get a final opinion but I am not blown away to say the least.

Da Boss wrote:If I wanted to do a Squat counts-as army or if Warpath is interesting enough to inspire me to do Forgefathers, I wouldn't hate those models, but they're not high quality and I would expect them to be priced to reflect that.

For the last time I have to ask what you mean by quality. There are no mold lines, no terrible gaps that I can see. They look reasonably sci-fi.

I get the impression that when people are saying quality they maybe making reference to the rigid positions of the models. The fact that the guns on the rear ranking models have the butt of the rifles blending into their shoulder pads and the fact they are clear clones.

They are for IG.
They have a good quality.
They re-use to much of the fantasy dwarfs, at a point that they do look like fantasy dwarfs with sci-fi bits.

The heads: well, looks like we have 2 new heads: captain and troopers. We have too some type of googling add-on, and comunicator add on for the head too...

The uper body: is new, and is good. I think it could work very well with new legs.

The lower body: is exactly the old one, wich mean their back is probably "naked into some type of cloth". With those legs they look to much IG for my taste.

Overal, the product by itself is good, and work very well for a squat IG count-as. But the product is not there by itself, it created a lot of expectative, and for me, it is a problem.

The final words tell us that there will be more sci-fi, and close combat in the army, probably with new options that will work with the Steel Warriors to make that "power armored look" that some of us are expecting.

What will happen? "IG squats" are the main product, but soon they will release a "Space Marines Dwarves" upgrade set, with metal optional bits, that will work like the chaos dwarves and twilight kin.

They will do a great work on the Corporation, because that will be all new, the same for the other races, for the same reason.

Again, i like the final product, but feel cheated on the way to it. At least they changed the chests this time.

Those are exactly as terrible as I anticipated. Once again, I am vindicated by the sheer banality of Mantic's releases.

If this game was basically a fantasy world which had a space ship crash into it and now all the fantasy races now have pewpew then I would say these models convey that universe. It actually might have been a good game that is a space/fantasy hybrid.

But it isn't... This is a terrible set of models to launch a supposed new game. They would have been better doing two fantasy only core races the way the bucket brigade even admits and then released these fantasy hybrids as 'extras' instead of cores.

Terrible terrible terrible.

The loin cloths/legs kill it for me. And I'd rather have a whole squad with the sergeant's mask head than the exposed faces and beards. About the only models I like are the vehicles and the heavies, which don't look interchangeable with KoW.

The "For those of you who worry about the legs (and aren’t convinced by the photos!) there are many ways you will be able to build your army with only sci-fi legs." quote is interesting. Does that mean they realize that the lower half of the troop models are killing the sci-fi feel and are going to provide options?

Lord Marcus: I guess by quality I mean the posing (fairly mono-pose) the design (pretty uninspired, lacking in detail), the proportion (I think slightly too top heavy) and the detail (too cartoonish for my liking).

Like I said, if I want to do Dwarves in Space I'll probably pick some up, but only if they are priced appropriately. I love my mantic undead, and their fantasy orcs are great value. If these guys continue the trend I'll be a happy camper.

Considering that Mantic has used their existing KoW Dwarfs as a basis for the kit, I am very impressed. I like their charm. "Fantasy" legs? How so?

lord marcus wrote:They look reasonably sci-fi.

Giving a knight a gun and a bionic eye is not enough. They all still have their swords for Christ's sake! How lazy is that!

And this would be the last straw. Very disappointed by these. They stretched 4 different sculpts into a whole squad of 10! Plus, if you took away their guns and the clearly added on sci-fi lenses on their helmets, you'd have fantasy dwarves, which is unacceptable. What's next, skeletons with bionic eyes and handguns?

As I feared, oh well theres more fish in the ocean as they say

Kenshin, if you could photoshop that second one to be blue rather than red it'd be 100% accurate.

Manchu wrote:Kenshin, if you could photoshop that second one to be blue rather than red it'd be 100% accurate.

I dont do photoshop, I use paint

No, no, no. If you look closely, you'll see that particular head has a pair of goggles that cover both eyes.

Guildsman wrote:What's next, skeletons with bionic eyes and handguns?

No, Imperial Guard

Kroothawk wrote:

lord marcus wrote:They look reasonably sci-fi.

Giving a knight a gun and a bionic eye is not enough. They all still have their swords for Christ's sake! How lazy is that!

They arent swords, they are knives. in this instance the could be used in the context of combat/field knives. If you don't like it, get on facebook or phone mantic directly and tell them. They do listen guys.

lord marcus wrote:They arent swords, they are knives. in this instance the could be used in the context of combat/field knives.

Okay, broad knifes that reach the floor then

Kroothawk wrote:
Okay, broad knifes that reach the floor then

HEY, dont make fun of their height!

It's a little too late to expect changes. This kit has already gone to production. And really, if they cared enough to change their design based on customer criticism, they would have cared enough to not reuse fantasy models for their sci-fi game.